EvilClive
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« on: May 16, 2021, 03:08:01 PM +0100 » |
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Tony, please sit down and take a deep breath...maybe even a tranquiliser......
I am contemplating installing Linux OS on my PC, Microsoft and Win10 has stretched my patience to breaking point with their infernal insistence that I create an Account ( why??!) and their intrusive and disrupting updates.
The boffins at GPL assure me that I can run GPL perfectly well ( if not better? ) on Linux, but as I regularly use GTL as well I wanted to check for any issues that I might face.
Linux can be set up on a USB stick and used a dual boot OS, so the plan is to take it slowly, slowly and not commit until I have everything running tickety-boo. Only then will I migrate GPL and then GTL under the Linux banner.
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Clive Loynes
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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2021, 03:41:00 PM +0100 » |
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Fantastic news!
This could keep me amused for months!
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Christian Dauger
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« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2021, 03:55:18 PM +0100 » |
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Hi ! I'm about to do the same ... not because windows bother me or bother me , (I believe that with win10, there is no longer a problem for a long time) but some here have me made you want to try again ... Although I am a little skeptical about the installation and use of certain games (AC seems not to be very easy with content manager for example! In terms of graphics performance and FFb too!) And more, by experience , at one point, something is always missing under Linux that is easily found in windows! But, nobody forces me and anyway, it costs nothing !!
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Wiltshire Tony
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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2021, 04:08:15 PM +0100 » |
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Thankfully I have no clue about GTL and Linux so I will say "I'm out". I think Kurt has dabbled tho?..
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EvilClive
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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2021, 05:04:29 PM +0100 » |
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Fantastic news!
This could keep me amused for months!
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EvilClive
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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2021, 05:09:42 PM +0100 » |
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I might start asking Clive Loynes for advice, that should keep the smirk off of his face I think Tony's reply was a total cop out, but I guess a little understandable . Thanks to Christian for his comments. I won't be using it as a primary OS until I am 100% happy with it. From what I have been told thus far, I can run it alongside Win10 and simply select which OS I want to wrestle with when I boot my PC...............................anyway, everyone needs a hobby!
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SpecialKS
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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2021, 06:16:51 PM +0100 » |
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Running a dual boot PC with W10 & Linux Mint 20 (Linux for all purposes & W10 for gaming & Photoshop only). Would be a dream GTL running with Linux, but so far I have no problems with W10 at all (except having to shutdown & restart the computer each time I want to play). Up to now I have not been asked to create a Microsoft online account - but maybe I have an older version of W10. I just read something about that and also that there are possibilities to ignore the creation of an online account (will have a look). GTL could work on Linux, but I've never tried it ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57QCir0wlEs)l https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=3906Too sophisticated for me
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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2021, 06:45:25 PM +0100 » |
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I saw a lot of posts from one of your GPL peeps, who was proudly sharing his GPL on wine on Linux success Or at least I think he was running under wine. I have managed to get some old games like Descent running in wine but you could count the frames. Apparently this was not the case for GPL "Wine Is Not an Emulator". Well, purists flame wars asside, it kind of is. It translates the MS instructions int Linux ones. So you install and run a Linux "Distro" (Distribution) of which there are many https://distrowatch.com/ Probably as Kurt says Linux Mint is a good desktop one My fave is MX Linux, but any will do that come with Wine, or you can install Wine onto.
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Wiltshire Tony
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« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2021, 07:11:11 PM +0100 » |
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Microsoft and Win10 has stretched my patience to breaking point with their infernal insistence that I create an Account
This what I don't understand. Account for what? I've never had this I think you need to create an account if you want to buy MS products like Office 360 or whatever it's called this week.
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« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2021, 07:45:58 PM +0100 » |
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Microsoft and Win10 has stretched my patience to breaking point with their infernal insistence that I create an Account
This what I don't understand. Account for what? I've never had this I think you need to create an account if you want to buy MS products like Office 360 or whatever it's called this week. I think it's for a new W10 install. Quote from PC-World 02/21 - translated with DeepL: Compulsion to have an online account? Microsoft now restricts the possibility of a local user account in the home variant of its operating system. During installation, the option was simply removed, so that - if the software company has its way - you have to log in with a Microsoft account. However, this constraint can be circumvented by intentionally typing in a wrong password ten times....
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« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2021, 07:52:29 PM +0100 » |
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Microsoft and Win10 has stretched my patience to breaking point with their infernal insistence that I create an Account
This what I don't understand. Account for what? I've never had this I think you need to create an account if you want to buy MS products like Office 360 or whatever it's called this week. They ask for an account to register the product, and even have access to certain customizations
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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2021, 05:25:28 PM +0100 » |
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Hi guys yes linux + wine are able to run GTL as good as in w-ten - if not better I succeeded in running GTR2 (P&G) and the AC 67mod, so why not GTL? For GPL a NVidia GPU is to prefer, but more modern games have the graphic tweaks needed in game, so you can have a recent AMD GPU Linux mint is the save way to get a stable OS and with the cinamon or XFCE desktop you have a W7 like workaround. Wine runs all DirectX versions and is better for the older games that are no longer supported by w-ten
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Wiltshire Tony
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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2021, 06:05:31 PM +0100 » |
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Microsoft and Win10 has stretched my patience to breaking point with their infernal insistence that I create an Account
This what I don't understand. Account for what? I've never had this I think you need to create an account if you want to buy MS products like Office 360 or whatever it's called this week. They ask for an account to register the product, and even have access to certain customizations My Windows 10 and 7 before that are OEM versions so maybe I have slipped through the net.
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SpecialKS
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« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2021, 06:24:47 AM +0100 » |
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Hi guys yes linux + wine are able to run GTL as good as in w-ten - if not better I succeeded in running GTR2 (P&G) and the AC 67mod, so why not GTL? For GPL a NVidia GPU is to prefer, but more modern games have the graphic tweaks needed in game, so you can have a recent AMD GPU Linux mint is the save way to get a stable OS and with the cinamon or XFCE desktop you have a W7 like workaround. Wine runs all DirectX versions and is better for the older games that are no longer supported by w-ten That looks like a future project - thanks for the update
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Christian Dauger
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« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2021, 01:33:19 PM +0100 » |
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Hi guys yes linux + wine are able to run GTL as good as in w-ten - if not better I succeeded in running GTR2 (P&G) and the AC 67mod, so why not GTL? For GPL a NVidia GPU is to prefer, but more modern games have the graphic tweaks needed in game, so you can have a recent AMD GPU Linux mint is the save way to get a stable OS and with the cinamon or XFCE desktop you have a W7 like workaround. Wine runs all DirectX versions and is better for the older games that are no longer supported by w-ten For now, for me, the first test is inconclusive !! GTL seems to be installed but impossible to launch it ... I test under Mint and whether it's Lutris or Wine, something is always missing !! I have the message of a launcher that I need to install, but nothing installs ... On the other hand, I have not found a method to install these games (GTL, PnG) without depending on Steam! If I (re) switch to Linux, I might as well be free from this kind of dependency, right? !!!
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