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January 07, 2007, 09:04:14 PM +0000 - Donington Park (GP) - UKGTR Season 4 Endurance Masters
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Ballast
CeeJay
 GTN Drivers Club
Ferrari 575 GTC (#4019) GT1 1 1:24.328
105.788mph
1 1:20:01.839
100.322mph
54 1:25.125
104.798mph
Michelin +9.0kg
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#980001) GT1 2 +0.084
105.683mph
2 +1:13.830
98.802mph
54 1:26.200
103.491mph
Michelin +10.0kg
Martin Steinmetz
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 575 GTC (#960012) GT1 3 +0.618
105.018mph
3 +1:18.386
98.710mph
54 1:26.097
103.614mph
Michelin +9.0kg
james
 Racin24-7
Ferrari 575 GTC (#980037) GT1 7 +1.332
104.143mph
4 +1L
98.413mph
53 1:26.579
103.038mph
Michelin +9.0kg
Paul Richards
 28CD Motorsports
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#950012) GT1 9 +1.359
104.110mph
5 +30.412
97.794mph
53 1:27.283
102.206mph
Michelin +10.0kg
FlyBri
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#970012) GT1 11 +1.536
103.896mph
6 +43.166
97.537mph
53 1:26.940
102.610mph
Michelin +17.0kg
Jimmie
 Racin24-7
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#960037) GT1 4 +1.145
104.371mph
7 +47.122
97.457mph
53 1:26.299
103.372mph
Michelin +10.0kg
Madd-RIP
 Team RVS
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#740029) GT1 6 +1.332
104.143mph
8 +1:13.925
96.922mph
53 1:26.678
102.920mph
Michelin +10.0kg
Jure
 Racin24-7
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#960037) GT1 12 +2.170
103.134mph
9 +2L
96.464mph
52 1:27.563
101.880mph
Michelin +10.0kg
purdie
 Racin24-7
Saleen S7-R (#970037) GT1 10 +1.449
104.001mph
10 (+2) +1:09.506
95.090mph
52 1:27.378
102.095mph
Pirelli +7.0kg
Kerr
 
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#4024) GT1 8 +1.333
104.142mph
11 +1:10.238
95.075mph
52 1:27.292
102.196mph
Michelin +10.0kg
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
BMW M3 GTR (#920001) NGT 16 +6.930
97.755mph
12 +4L
92.767mph
50 1:32.061
96.902mph
Michelin +72.0kg
Radius
 Racin24-7
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#890037) NGT 17 +7.034
97.643mph
13 +0.328
92.760mph
50 1:32.013
96.952mph
Michelin +50.0kg
LEUVEN
 Team Shark
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#960001) NGT 13 +6.339
98.392mph
14 +13.456
92.508mph
50 1:31.827
97.149mph
Michelin +50.0kg
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#710029) NGT 18 +7.156
97.513mph
15 +14.700
92.484mph
50 1:32.228
96.726mph
Michelin +50.0kg
Paul968
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#4050) NGT 15 +6.836
97.855mph
16 +29.739
92.197mph
50 1:31.662
97.324mph
Michelin +50.0kg
Truetom
 Legends Racing
Ferrari 360 GTC (#930008) NGT 21 +7.768
96.865mph
17 +34.890
92.098mph
50 1:32.199
96.757mph
Pirelli +30.0kg
jan duijs
 
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#4099) NGT 19 +7.241
97.423mph
18 +38.513
92.030mph
50 1:32.612
96.325mph
Michelin +50.0kg
Bernie Lomax
 
Ferrari 360 GTC (#4062) NGT 20 +7.711
96.925mph
19 +46.565
91.877mph
50 1:33.322
95.593mph
Pirelli +30.0kg
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#990008) NGT 22 +7.953
96.671mph
20 +1:21.394
91.223mph
50 1:33.130
95.790mph
Pirelli +50.0kg
stnasky
 
Dodge Viper GTS-R (#4032) GT1 5 +1.272
104.216mph
21 +19L 35 1:26.604
103.008mph
unknown
Pirelli -15.0kg
popabawa
 Legends Racing
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#940008) NGT 24 +9.451
95.127mph
22 +20L 34 1:34.527
94.374mph
engine
Dunlop -70.0kg
PaulW
 Legends Racing
Ferrari 360 GTC (#930008) NGT 23 +8.736
95.858mph
23 +25L 29 1:34.108
94.794mph
engine
Pirelli +30.0kg
mo
 Kerb Crawlers
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#4101) NGT 14 +6.747
97.951mph
24 +48L 6 1:32.490
96.452mph
unknown
Dunlop -70.0kg

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Server replay time: 986s

Jan Duijs is braking for the Foggy Esses, with Leuven behind and slightly offset to the left. As Jan starts braking he moves slightly left and then right again, and Leuven is caught out and has to stand on the brakes, causing his car to move right slightly and tag the back of Jan, spinning Jan and putting both cars onto the grass.

The primary fault rest with Leuven who could have moved further to the left before the braking zone, but Jan's little move under braking is rather ill advised too and mitigates a penalty somewhat.

  • jan duijs (Jan Duijs)caution — moving in front of another car during braking
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded
  • LEUVENpenalty — rear ending Jan Duijs — 1 place lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 2010s

Perdy is approaching Bernie Lomax coming out of McLeans. He dives up the inside into Coppice and would've been safely through save that he snatched a front brake in his haste and understeered into Bernie, who had reached a point where he had to turn in.

It was a particularly regrettable place to outbrake a car being lapped as there is a much more convenient long straight immediately afterwards.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
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GT1
1:25.125
104.798mph
CeeJay
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Ferrari 575 GTC
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« Reply #45 on: January 08, 2007, 11:29:07 AM +0000 »

That was a gruelling tough race, i felt totally knackered by the end of it. The race seemed to go on for ever  Shocked

Had a great opening 15 minutes of the race, getting past several cars to advance up the grid after some good battles with Ferraris (nice to see a few more of them on grid again) and soon found myself upto about 3rd or 4th ngt after a few others had incidents. Though it didnt last long as a re-surgent Radius came belting back at me and got past within a few laps.
I was still happy with my position and had built a good 8 second or so lead over the chasing pack of Bernie L, TT, Jan and others and the car felt good.
However, as Paul mentions above, whilst some GT cars were very careful whilst lapping others were very 'optimistic' or aggressive in their moves and i was less than impressed to get bundled off the track with a hefty side impact smack onto the grass on the uphill Schwantz curve. Angry Losing all my lead in the process. Several times GT's tried to overtake at dodgy corners rather than waiting for the following straight and there were a few occasion where if i hadnt gone very wide there would have been an incident. Dont forget we NGT's are usually in a fierce race of our own where every dropped seconds hurts badly.
The car never felt the same after and i struggled to match my early pace, with all the guys behind me catching me easily and getting past when i pitted.
I opted not to repair at my pitstop and the car handled like crap for the remaining half of the race, with my lap times about a second or so consistenly slower than the first half of the race. By race end i could just about drag the car around and was covered in a sheen of sweat, finishing a miserable last by about 20 seconds. Sad

Enjoyed the race until the impact then it was painful for the rest. Congrats to the Claus and Simon for their well deserved wins Cool
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« Reply #46 on: January 08, 2007, 11:33:49 AM +0000 »

As Simon says, quite a race. Couldn't match Leuven or Mo in qual (great time in the Verti-Mo!), but when the race started I was able to hang on to the 2 of them as they battled over the opening laps. Leuven then had a spin at Coppice, and not long after I got a good exit from the last corner to pass Mo into T1. Good job from the sound of it, as he froze just afterwards Shocked. I could then work on stretching a lead, which I'd eaked out to around 17 secs by pitstop time. I thought this would be enough, even allowing for the sneaky ones using a full fuel load, but for some reason I lost time as the crew repaired some damage - strange as I'd had no contact. I came out with Simon right behind, but I was too cautious trying to stay out of the way of approaching cars and Simon nipped past on the inside. I took a few laps to get the tyres up to temp and then started pushing. We had a terrific scrap for several laps, including an unfortunate mistake by me when I went too deep at the last corner and nudged Bernie off (sorry m8, I was only trying to pass Simon). I gave Simon the place back and carried on the chase, which finally succeeded with a pass into the melbourne loop. We then had a long stretch where the GTs conspired to break things up rather effectively (not intentionally of course) and neither of us could settle into a rhythm. With 10 mins to go I had just started to edge away when Martin made the same mistake as Me (and Simon) at the last corner, and spun me round. We locked horns nose to nose for a while, as I couldn't reverse  across the track, but when things finally got sorted, I tried a spin turn which went pear shaped and ended up on the inside 90 deg to the track and up against the barrier. Took ages to get back on  safely, by which time I was way down. I got one place back by the finish after harrying Bernie into a spin, but finished a frustrated 16th. On reflection though, I had a great time racing, which is the most important thing.

Well done to Claus and Simon and thx to the GTs who were very courteous when lapping (too courteous in some cases when I just wanted them to get a move on!).

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« Reply #47 on: January 08, 2007, 11:56:59 AM +0000 »

Qual was bit of a lottery, would have a good lap goin and then an NGT would appear, good thing session is relatively long so there's the possibity to go out twice, eventually managed to get in a free gap.

Race was good, got a free back alrdy after turn 1 when Ruskus and Martin had a come together, after 2 more laps tires started to work and could push a little more and slowly build a gap. Race was pretty uneventful, had time to be patient with the NGTs and just overtake them under acceleration, only a little scare when a Lambo suddenly lifted when I was close behind on the racingline to let me by before the hairpin.

And Martin you shouldn't stop now, you're the only one left to battle Ruskus for the overall win  Cheesy

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« Reply #48 on: January 08, 2007, 12:07:01 PM +0000 »

 Roll Eyes that Lambo was me, Thought you were a bit further away than you obviously were, sorry about that Ceejay
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« Reply #49 on: January 08, 2007, 12:15:45 PM +0000 »

Just as i gave up to connect to lobby on my last try,i got in!! No regrets about that,eventfull race Grin
Many nice battles before the pitstop,i suprised myself when i overtook Leuven at the last corner before SF,after the stops there was a feeling of "hello guys where are you i want to play "Shocked,how do you all do that these fast stops??
Hope to participate more in Endurance really enjoyed last night.


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« Reply #50 on: January 08, 2007, 12:37:19 PM +0000 »

I had a terrible race  Grin

Couldn't get a clean lap in quali (not that it mattered, bloody tyres took 5 (five) laps to heat up and even then they were in very low 80s if at all), started dead last in GT, felt like a complete noob.  Roll Eyes Then, retarted as I am I went and did "quick last minute setup change". Result? Overheating brakes (duct 2, brakes went over 600 deg. celsius in last two corners after the chicane, which were suppose to be corners where my setup should have excelled), rear wing 12 clearly wasn't a good option anyway, it took me ages just to pass NGT's on straights. Ouch. Grin Running on soft fronts/medium rear is a good option, but not if they NEVER go over 80 degrees. Dammit. Talk about driving on ice Cheesy

Clipped a NGT Porsche (dunno who) in penultimate corner (hairpin), didn't want to get by him, but then he ran wide and I went, well, OK, if u insist. Turns out he just went wide and not "here's some room for ya", so we swapped sidemirrors or smthn. No harm done, I hope.

Pitted on lap 30, lost good 15 seconds (hit that ignition button 4 times. nothing, still no fuel going in. WTF?!?!), had two spins afterwards while trying to push, but got caught by GT aliens, so I went inventive and tried to let them by on wrong part of the track. Wuiiiii, you spin me round round baby. Luckily, no one got hurt, i.e. top runners weren't hurt by my ballet.  Grin Roll Eyes

It was funny as hell though, caught myself deliberately easing off throttle (whilst running 10th, you know, who cares Cheesy ) just to enjoy watching great NGT battles in front of me.  Cool

Can't wait for sprint event, was a cool race and I'm still happy altough getting home 2 laps down. Was surprised I've managed to finish, bladder was the size of a basketball, I'm sure, plus there was no motivation to drive on s****y setup. 2 points is better then nothing, I guess.

Congrats to winners, big jawdrop for qualifying (did u guys notice time differences in GT class? OMFG, how cool is that!?!!?).

I love this game Smiley
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« Reply #51 on: January 08, 2007, 01:13:08 PM +0000 »

I see from the replay that my car lagged badly when my pc froze. Apologies to Radius who spun out because of this, nothing I could do though, and my pc is usually rock solid.

I have no idea how you got the Vertigo round there so quickly Mo!  Shocked

The setup is in the online garage if you wanna try it out - Vertigo_doni_mo.
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« Reply #52 on: January 08, 2007, 01:17:37 PM +0000 »

I guess you were just really unlucky in that we qualified next to each other and then ended up pitting on the same lap, presuming thats how it divides up the pit lanes.

I believe the allocations are done as each driver joins the server; I've intentionally removed all the pit groups from the ballasted cars to reduce the sharing to a minimum, but except at Spa (which has a glut of pit boxes) there will always be some sharing, and no pattern to who shares with who.
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« Reply #53 on: January 08, 2007, 02:03:33 PM +0000 »

The setup is in the online garage if you wanna try it out - Vertigo_doni_mo.

Cheers Mo, I appreciate it thumbup1

I was watching you in qualifying zipping through the chicane like it almost wasn't there and it reminded me of a couple of seasons back when you shared your set-up at Spa (I think it was the GT3) with me when you were similarly ploughing through Bus Stop. I tried to replicate your speed and line maybe 20-30 times before giving up in utter frustration! I guess this set-up will get me as far but I'll try anyway Cheesy
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« Reply #54 on: January 08, 2007, 02:48:19 PM +0000 »

Happy with qualifying, but surprised to see a Vertigo in second especially in front of Paul who I wasn't surprised to see up the front.
mo seemed to have kept his Qually speed and took it to the race Cool, and pressured me a lot.
IIRC mo overtook me then I took him back but I lost the lead when I ended up sideways in Coppice. cursing
A shame really as I was fat with fuel and may have had a good long battle with mo and Paul if I had gotten to grips with the car early on. Undecided

The spin pushed me all the way down to 20th as it was quite early on and as I was trying to claw back the places I had a coming together with Jan which resulted in us both going off, the worst thing was we were having a great duel too. :'( thankfully theres more grass down at the Foggarty Esses rather than glue sand traps.

I managed to pick up some speed around half distance and set out to move up the grid, helped by me staying out later than even the vertigo of popabawa I was able to jump a few places.
Now with a light car and some fresh tyres I was able to grab one or two more positions before finishing on the podium. Smiley

Congrats to Ceejay and Shark on their class wins, Ruskus' second place.  thumbup2
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« Reply #55 on: January 08, 2007, 04:59:32 PM +0000 »

yeah congrats to ceejay, great drive.

I lvoed as i struggled past NGT's and u just came out of nowhere, passed us all and then drove into distance!!

Plus grats to ruskus on a great come back drive! Saw the spin and when u recovered onto track the the craners i didn't even bother passing u!
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« Reply #56 on: January 08, 2007, 06:36:28 PM +0000 »

Roll Eyes that Lambo was me, Thought you were a bit further away than you obviously were, sorry about that Ceejay

ah yes it was you, np tho, just raised my heart rate for a while hehe
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« Reply #57 on: January 08, 2007, 07:34:31 PM +0000 »

Fair-ish race for me. Enjoyed it thorougly,  couldnt believe my luck at the start to see Martin and Ruskus touch and spin on the first lap Tongue.  Claus just drove off into the distance Huh and could'nt do anything about it. 

Had some battles with Ruskus which went on for a few laps with me just able to keep a little gap while passing the NGT cars,  but eventually he caught and passed me Wink.  Then i was slipping, lost another spot to James and then lost another spot to Martin who tapped me at the hairpin and left me facing the wrong way.

Then everyone seemed to dive into the pits, in no time i was in 1st place.  My plan was to stay out for as long as possible and then come into pit for a splash and dash,  I would of needed 26 minutes worth of fuel to see me to the end, and was'nt for taking tyres which would of made it a fast stop.  However on entry to pitlane the guy with the board was nowhere to be seen,  which meant i couldnt stop.  i did'nt have enough fuel to make it round for another lap as the counter was showing 1L,  so i quit. Angry

Would like to apologise to Jan and M Jonzo for an over aggressive piece of dive bombing at the last turn,  think i bumped Jan during that Undecided.  great awareness from the NGT drivers.
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« Reply #58 on: January 08, 2007, 07:48:43 PM +0000 »

A tough race on man and machine. Had a great opening 20 mins battling with Jonzo, Truetom and others. Unfortunaelt Jonzo nudged off by a lapping GT and then a couple of laps later I got punted off by a lapping GT as well. Some of the GT's could have possibly been a bit more patient when overtaking.

Was always playing catch up after that but ultimately only caught myself out and spun trying to stay in ahead of Paul968 with only a lap or two left.
An enjoyable first half.
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« Reply #59 on: January 08, 2007, 10:28:15 PM +0000 »

Actually, have to say, after watching  the replay, the gt i had contact with was blameless, as he was glued to the rear spoiler of the GT car in front and its actually me coming back across into the blind spot that caused me to get a side swipe onto the grass. He was so close to the first GT car that he wasnt visible to me.  Embarrassed

Its quite amazing how different incidents look on the replay compared to how they 'feel' when your driving your adrenaline filled nuts off during the race   Lips Sealed
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