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« Reply #30 on: October 12, 2021, 01:39:55 PM +0100 » |
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Always felt the GT40 was one of the most disappointing cars in GTL, horrible understeer on corner entry & loads of oversteer on corner exit. Would probably not have bothered with this race, but I'm even less keen on the alternatives this week.
Unpleasant characteristics that are also found with the GT40 in Assetto  So, a question...who here has already driven this car to confirm...   |
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Hristo Itchov
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« Reply #31 on: October 12, 2021, 02:11:04 PM +0100 » |
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I'm not far away then, 1.44.0 is my best so far
 And there I thought my 43.9 was untouchable!  This is going to be a tough one! Always felt the GT40 was one of the most disappointing cars in GTL, horrible understeer on corner entry & loads of oversteer on corner exit. Would probably not have bothered with this race, but I'm even less keen on the alternatives this week.
Unpleasant characteristics that are also found with the GT40 in Assetto So, a question...who here has already driven this car to confirm... Isn't the GT40 in the sports car mod in GPL also quite the brick? At least that's how I remember it... |
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« Reply #32 on: October 12, 2021, 02:15:06 PM +0100 » |
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Wasn't the Ford GT40 principally designed and built for Le Mans, a track with very few sharp turns?
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« Reply #33 on: October 12, 2021, 02:44:28 PM +0100 » |
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@ Hristo Yes, the GT40 in all of it's variants within the GPL 67 Sports Car mod is a struggle. The Mk1 feels a little underpowered..the MK2 is powerful enough but is allergic to anything that looks like a corner and the Mk4 is like a Saturn 5 rocket, unbeatable in a straight line..... provided the line is long enough and it is not required to stop in a hurry!! Which brings us to Tony's comment....the GT40's were indeed built for Le Mans and the 3 mile Mulsanne straight WITHOUT the mickey mouse chicanes. Ford got something right as they were absolutely brilliant on the straight bits, quite like my driving in that respect. lol Of all the variants of the GT40 modelled in GPL, the lightweight Mirage is probably the best all rounder.? and if memory serves me the Mirage team was quite successful at many circuits with their modified GT40's in the late 60's/ early 70's?? So, maybe the GTL version ( which I think is a MK1?) is not so far from reality, although my real life experience of GT40 driving is a little limited , so what the hell do I know!! |
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« Reply #34 on: October 12, 2021, 05:33:39 PM +0100 » |
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I have uploaded my setup if anyone wants to give it a try, not as fast as Hristo or Daz but good for 1.45.0 for me.
I did give Hristo's setup a try but could not better 1.46 with it. For me it was better through the faster turns but I could not get it to turn into the slower turns to my liking.
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« Reply #35 on: October 12, 2021, 10:02:20 PM +0100 » |
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It was similar in P&G, the MK1 was horrible, the MK2 was an absolute rocket ship on any straight worth the name but neither stopped or turned with anything that felt less than the alacrity of a supertanker. Only the JWM Gulf MK1s from 69 that used a different engine and were quite heavily modified felt the absolute beast we all think of when we think GT40, those cars were almost good fun in a very scary way.
Geoffers, I may have done a couple of fast laps, but that can count for very little at race time as we both know....I would suggest mid 45s will feel very competitive in the race to do consecutively and on a constant basis. I'll fly off the road at some point in this thing, it is all but guaranteed.....
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« Reply #36 on: October 13, 2021, 10:55:25 AM +0100 » |
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To continue the discussion about this GT40, after having driven it a bit more, I find it much more successful in GTL than in AC and maybe PnG and it's not so allergic to curves...  That said, I can't improve my time of 1.48.127, I can't even reproduce it ! While searching in the .plr, I wonder if there were not some aids left activated... in doubt, I set everything to 0 and I think the car is a little more "nervous" (well I think!) Also, I invite you (for those who would be embarrassed not to be in "pro" configuration  ) to examine your .plr to be sure that some aids would not be activated yet... |
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« Reply #37 on: October 13, 2021, 12:21:56 PM +0100 » |
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Giving it a try tonight, but - frankly spoken - I prefer watching a dozen of GT40's racing at the Spa Six Hours, which also this year have settled the decision among themselves. https://www.spasixhours.com/en/http://roadbook.alkamelsystems.com/Unfortunately it has been a while since I could visit the race (2012, 13 & 14 & Spa Classic 2018)  |
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« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2021, 12:28:07 PM +0100 » |
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Giving it a try tonight, but - frankly spoken - I prefer watching a dozen of GT40's racing at the Spa Six Hours, which also this year have settled the decision among themselves. https://www.spasixhours.com/en/http://roadbook.alkamelsystems.com/Unfortunately it has been a while since I could visit the race (2012, 13 & 14 & Spa Classic 2018)  Yes, brilliant event Kurt, I have been to the 6 Hours three times, the last time in 2018, hopefully go again next year. |
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« Reply #40 on: October 13, 2021, 04:23:30 PM +0100 » |
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Giving it a try tonight, but - frankly spoken - I prefer watching a dozen of GT40's racing at the Spa Six Hours, which also this year have settled the decision among themselves. https://www.spasixhours.com/en/http://roadbook.alkamelsystems.com/Unfortunately it has been a while since I could visit the race (2012, 13 & 14 & Spa Classic 2018) Was that the one we met at Geoff? Such a great weekend, best trip I ever did in the Mini..... Yes, brilliant event Kurt, I have been to the 6 Hours three times, the last time in 2018, hopefully go again next year. |
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« Reply #41 on: October 13, 2021, 05:36:21 PM +0100 » |
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No that was the Spa Classic in May, the 6 hours is at the end of September (beginning of October this year).
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« Reply #42 on: October 13, 2021, 06:37:42 PM +0100 » |
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44.9 is the best I can do... |
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« Reply #43 on: October 13, 2021, 06:38:25 PM +0100 » |
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No that was the Spa Classic in May, the 6 hours is at the end of September (beginning of October this year).
The albums "Spa Six Hours" are a little further down |
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« Reply #44 on: October 13, 2021, 06:56:11 PM +0100 » |
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Was that the one we met at Geoff? Such a great weekend, best trip I ever did in the Mini.....
Sorry Kurt, I was replying to the above line from Daz's post, I had seen your photos of the Six Hours further down. |
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