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September 15, 2021, 09:44:27 PM +0100 - Sachsenring - UKAC Season 17
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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FullMetalGasket
 
Lotus 72 {unknown} 1 1:21.982
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1 41:52.573
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30 1:22.355
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Goodyear  
Fabri Fibra
 Magnesium Team
Lotus 72 {unknown} 2 +0.892
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2 +6.046
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30 1:22.829
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Goodyear  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Lotus 72 {unknown} 3 +1.068
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3 +22.383
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30 1:23.076
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Goodyear  
goldtop
 Kerb Crawlers
Lotus 72 {unknown} 6 +27:45:18.017
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4 +51.232
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30 1:23.322
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Goodyear  
KDiesel
 
Lotus 72 {unknown} 7 +27:45:18.017
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5 +1:02.792
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30 1:23.652
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Goodyear  
L4de
 
Lotus 72 {unknown} 5 +3.886
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6 +1:02.897
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30 1:23.810
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Goodyear  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing
Lotus 72 {unknown} 4 +3.843
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7 +1L
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29 1:24.971
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Goodyear  
SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Assetto Corsa
{unknown}
1:21.982
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FullMetalGasket
Qualifying
Lotus 72September 15, 2021, 09:44:27 PM +0100
A17
Assetto Corsa
{unknown}
1:22.355
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FullMetalGasket
Race
Lotus 72September 15, 2021, 09:44:27 PM +0100
A17
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« on: September 09, 2021, 10:03:59 PM +0100 »



Onto the final fun event before next season. The venerable Lotus 72D at the Excellent Sachsenring for 30 laps of fire-breathing fun.


Password: see above

Timings:
Practice: 19:30 (45 mins)
Qualifying: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30  (30 Laps)

Cars allowed:
Lotus 72D (Kunos stock)

I can't recommend this sound mod enough in these cars - I almost enjoy it more than the actual car Shocked
https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/cosworth-dfv-soundmod-immersive-replays.27747/
When installing the sound DO NOT copy the data.acd file contained in the download as this will make it impossible to join online



Track: Sachsenring
Download link: https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/sachsenring.41511/
This will look nicer with CM but will still run without.

Live Timing: stracker.simracing.org.uk:50041/lapstat


Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Weather: Clear
Start: Standing
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal
Pit-stops: Not required

Server track settings:
SESSION_START=100
RANDOMNESS=0
LAP_GAIN=0
SESSION_TRANSFER=N/a

Damage: 70%

Password: see above

PLP App - Not used in this series. Cutting will be monitored on replay and penalties issued for excessive cutting.
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« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2021, 01:15:34 PM +0100 »

Oohh great combo. Too bad iam still in hospital. Hopefully I will be able to race next week with you guys.
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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2021, 01:26:53 PM +0100 »

All the best for a speedy recovery from your op Stefan  thumbup1

I could do with some setup help for this one. Had an hour or so testing different aero and diff settings but the Lotus is still an understeering mess for me  Sad
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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2021, 02:53:40 PM +0100 »

Link to my current setup below - I want a little bit more nose, but should note that you want it understeering a bit and you need to steer with the throttle.
70's F1 is almost incapable of balanced handling due to the daft tire size disparity!

It's part of the reason I picked this track; combine it with the soundmod I linked to and it becomes seriously addictive once you learn the course purely because of the noise of the DFV on over-run Grin

https://www.dropbox.com/s/89nlhwyb3lwgtuk/Lotus%2072D%20Test%20hard.zip?dl=0
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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2021, 08:07:14 PM +0100 »

Well I didn't find it too bad, with just a few setup tweeks I got to within 0.5s of Tim's best server time. I felt it had a lot more grip than I expected.

All the best for a speedy recovery Stefan.
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« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2021, 03:38:00 PM +0100 »

Best wishes for a speedy recovery, Stefan.
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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2021, 06:13:58 PM +0100 »

I server down or is it at my end?
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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2021, 07:28:47 PM +0100 »

I think I was restarting around when you posted this. I'd found it running on our server but not showing in the race lists.
I've just reset it and started the proper race server now
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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2021, 09:37:10 AM +0100 »

Enjoyed the track and didn't notice any problems with it considering we are using this for the Lambo series. Don't like the Lotus at all, feels like the Karts I used to build when I was a kid from some scraps of wood and old pram wheels. Still, had some good racing with Kimi, Jari and Syd. Well done pody.
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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2021, 11:57:36 AM +0100 »

In contrast to GT, I loved the Lotus but I am not a big fan of Sachsenring.

I was a bit disappointed I could not match my offline lap times in qually on soft tyres. I noticed everyone was on the hards for the race so thought I better follow suit even though I had not turned a lap on them. In the race I was able to lap just as fast on the hard tyres, so is there any difference? Had a great time chasing Fabri & got to around 2s behind near the end before I had a couple of late spins, fortunately without any serious damage, so happy to finish 3rd.

For those that didn't try it, I can recommend the sound mod, makes a huge difference to the experience.

Congrats to Tim & Fabri.  clap clap
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« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2021, 01:09:55 PM +0100 »

Unfortunately for laziness I had not installed the sound mod. I install it tonight. Too bad, because you tell me it was absolutely great for the driving experience.
As Geoff, I am also a fan of the Lotus 72, but less of tracks like the Sachsenring.

The race was great and this car is always exhilarating to drive. Unfortunately, I didn't spend too much time preparing for the race, having only done about ten laps before yesterday. Tim was simply too fast, but Geoff had a similar pace to mine. Only the luck of being a little more constant allowed me to take second place without having to elbow too much.
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« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2021, 02:20:26 PM +0100 »

In the race I was able to lap just as fast on the hard tyres, so is there any difference?

I need to upload the results tonight to double check - but S-tracker gives my own times as
01:21.982 on softs in qually
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01:22.355 on hards late in the race (Lap 28)

The main difference is cornering speed and braking, my car was MUCH more pointy on the softs but I suspect it was down on top speed.
Soft also heat up easily so you have to drive smoother while still sitting on the limit of rear grip to overcome the understeer, get it wrong and it'll cost you grip for a lap so after a singe error while the tire cools again.
Don't forget tire life though, the Hards were still green at the end, softs would be hurting after 40 minutes.
In contrast I think my doughnut at the end lasted at least 30 seconds before tire failure from heat and I was regularly drifting into/out of the tighter sections during the race Grin
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« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2021, 03:09:21 PM +0100 »

The lap-time difference between softs and hards is about 0.5 - 1 sec.

The race lap-times with the hards were almost like in qualifying with the softs because the grip of the track has increased.

As Tim said the car behaves slightly differently with the two compounds. With hards I also notice that you have to put in 1 psi more of pressure.
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« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2021, 03:40:19 PM +0100 »

Yeah, that PSI might be where the extra pointyness comes from in the softs - It may not be actual grip so much as simply tire wall flex on the massive rears - that will naturally give greater yaw even before the tire breaks traction.
Down side will be squishier tires and greater rolling resistance, that would back up my feeling that the top speed is lower on softs.
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