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  • U4Ea Hockenheim: February 11, 2007
February 11, 2007, 09:04:31 PM +0000 - Hockenheim (National) - UKGTR Season 4 Endurance Academy
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Joss
 
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#3036) GT1 2 +0.008
102.370mph
1 1:21:02.782
96.647mph
57 1:21.570
101.080mph
Michelin +10.0kg
EdamSpeed
 
Saleen S7-R (#4005) GT1 3 +0.801
101.372mph
2 +30.661
96.041mph
57 1:21.873
100.706mph
Pirelli +7.0kg
cej
 DSD
Saleen S7-R (#4004) GT1 6 +3.555
98.052mph
3 +1L
94.243mph
56 1:24.193
97.931mph
Pirelli +7.0kg
Kerr
 
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#4026) GT1 1 1:20.534
102.381mph
4 56 1:21.969
100.588mph
unknown
Michelin +10.0kg
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Porsche 993 GT2 (#3012) G2 5 +3.373
98.265mph
5 +2L
92.598mph
55 1:24.682
97.366mph
Dunlop  
Fred Joseph
 Cyber Racing
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#3023) GT1 8 +4.866
96.547mph
6 +3L
91.519mph
54 1:24.738
97.301mph
Michelin +17.0kg
LuKe#69
 28CD Motorsports
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#780012) NGT 10 +5.770
95.536mph
7 +32.013
90.920mph
54 1:26.914
94.865mph
Pirelli +50.0kg
will16v
 28CD Motorsports
Maserati MC12 (#990012) GT1 9 +5.370
95.981mph
8 +44.108
90.696mph
54 1:24.508
97.566mph
Pirelli -10.0kg
Darren Seal
 
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#350453) NGT 11 +6.299
94.954mph
9 (+2) +1:10.326
90.214mph
54 1:27.518
94.211mph
Michelin +50.0kg
Reign Man
 
TVR Tuscan T400R (#4153) NGT 13 +7.078
94.109mph
10 +1:21.136
90.017mph
54 1:27.705
94.010mph
Dunlop -40.0kg
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Nissan 350Z (#990001) NGT 14 +7.282
93.891mph
11 +4L
89.556mph
53 1:27.901
93.800mph
Dunlop -50.0kg
picnic
 Team Shark
TVR Tuscan T400R (#940001) NGT 15 +7.361
93.806mph
12 +1.213
89.533mph
53 1:28.240
93.440mph
Dunlop -40.0kg
Chunky
 28CD Motorsports
BMW M3 GTR (#890012) NGT 12 +7.054
94.135mph
13 +1:02.926
88.415mph
53 1:28.215
93.466mph
Michelin +72.0kg
Don
 Legends Racing
TVR Tuscan T400R (#980008) NGT 17 +8.030
93.098mph
14 +1:09.389
88.300mph
53 1:29.384
92.244mph
Dunlop -40.0kg
Paul968
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 993 GT2 (#3038) G2 7 +3.864
97.693mph
15 +10L 47 1:25.221
96.750mph
engine
Dunlop  
Truetom
 Legends Racing
Porsche 996 GT3 Cup (#4121) G3 18 +10.192
90.879mph
16 +41L 16 1:30.317
91.291mph
unknown
Pirelli +10.0kg
Munkez
 
Ferrari 360 GTC (#4062) NGT 16 +7.646
93.503mph
17 +43L 14 1:29.188
92.446mph
unknown
Pirelli +30.0kg
enz13_gt
 
Ferrari 575 GTC (#4017) GT1 4 +2.679
99.084mph
18 +56L 1 2:06.957
64.944mph
unknown
Michelin +9.0kg

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 500s

Chunky is hit from behind by Darren whilst braking for the Sachskurve.

This was only the third flying lap of an 80 minute race, and Darren appears to have completely missed his braking point and broke barely before the 50m board (and not 150-160m out as his report claims).

I'm satisfied that this was a simple error and not a very badly judged passing attempt gone wrong but Darren's response to the incident report suggests that he simply never looked at the replay, something which is crucial when learning from our mistakes.


Server replay time: 810s

Chunky taps the rear of Dave Gymer going into the Einfahrt Parabolika, spinning him round whilst Picnic and Don also go by. Chunky then slows down and allows all three back past him, and for this gentlemanly conduct the penalty is reduced.

  • Chunkypenalty — rear ending Dave Gymer — 0 places lost


Server replay time: 925s

Dave Gymer is following Don and Munkez into the Kurzanbindung. Munkez is a lap down and fairly unpredictable, so Dave is keeping a repsectable distance and watching to see how Don will deal with him. Chunky, behind Dave, doesn't account for the situation ahead of Dave and brakes as normal, piling into the back of Dave who is going slower than normal in the middle of the track, spinning him into the gravel.

Chunky then waits for Dave to rejoin.

  • Chunkyadvice — take account of the situation ahead of the car ahead

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR2
G2
1:23.907
98.265mph
Jeffrey
Qualifying
Porsche 993 GT2February 11, 2007, 09:04:31 PM +0000
U4Ea
GTR2
G2
1:24.682
97.366mph
Jeffrey
Race
Porsche 993 GT2February 11, 2007, 09:04:31 PM +0000
U4Ea
GTR2
G3
1:30.726
90.879mph
Truetom
Qualifying
Porsche 996 GT3 Cup
+10.0kg
February 11, 2007, 09:04:31 PM +0000
U4Ea
GTR2
G3
1:30.317
91.291mph
Truetom
Race
Porsche 996 GT3 Cup
+10.0kg
February 11, 2007, 09:04:31 PM +0000
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« Reply #60 on: February 12, 2007, 09:44:26 AM +0000 »

Hm, didn't see you were in G3, Paul. I joined in G2 and then changed to G3 'cause I was pleasantly surprised by it while training for a wet race. It showed that G3 is not on pace with the NGTs (with me driving anyway  Grin  ) so it was not gonna be the race but another training.  Roll Eyes
Didn't want to turture myself in a G2 in this version of Hock.  angel

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« Reply #61 on: February 12, 2007, 09:48:36 AM +0000 »

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I dropped back into a tussle with Fred Joseph. When he made a slip I was left to lap on my own ...

Exactly when the GF decided that we must have a discussion  Roll Eyes
Too bad cause it was fun running with you  Smiley
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« Reply #62 on: February 12, 2007, 01:32:00 PM +0000 »

Well unless I can persuade Luke not to turn up to the final round I think that's my championship gone.
With just 3 points in it, if Luke wins the final round he'll take it on the countback even if I finish second. The team championship could still be ours though...
But if we tie on points who gets it then??

I've told you twice now! You've even quoted the second one! Roll Eyes
Yes m8 but you still havent said WHO,ME OR YOU  Huh
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« Reply #63 on: February 12, 2007, 01:47:32 PM +0000 »

Luke, you would win on count back because you would have won the most races...
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« Reply #64 on: February 12, 2007, 03:12:09 PM +0000 »

Is there a lapchart available?
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« Reply #65 on: February 12, 2007, 03:41:52 PM +0000 »

Eek, sorry, totally forgot  Embarrassed. Here it is:


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« Reply #66 on: February 12, 2007, 06:39:24 PM +0000 »

Luke, you would win on count back because you would have won the most races...
THANK YOU!!!!!
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« Reply #67 on: February 12, 2007, 08:07:30 PM +0000 »

Have I made a backside of it? The timer had disappeared long before I crossed the line and it never started to time the lap after i crossed the line. When I pressed escape there were other people finished before I was as soon as I looked to monitor evertone was doing donoughts etc. I'm confused Huh

Yep, you've made what the French call "un cockup". Tongue FreQ was just 7 seconds behind and about to lap you again when you crossed the line (at 4972.684s). Time had expired but because the leader had not crossed the line the race was still running. The chequered flag didn't come out until 7 seconds after you crossed the line, when FreQ took the win (at 7979.238s).

oops Embarrassed.  I just assumed that with no timer and and no lap timer that was it. I guess that's another lesson learned!

The same happened to me when I ran out of fuel on the last lap in China. It's apparently a limitation of the way the results are exported from GTR2 - meaning you HAVE to cross the finish line when the flag is showing, otherwise you are bumped down to the last place of cars on the same lap you stopped/dnf'd on (ie. 1 lap down). I'm sure there is a good reason for it - it sounds pretty complicated, but it's not really fair either. If you had waited 8 seconds for me to lap you, you would have had third. If I had waited for Locotus to lap me in China, I would have had third. Unfortunately in these circumstances the system penalises you for being faster.  :'( Still not sure why the UKGTR results are incorrect when GTR2 and UKGTR's own lapcharts get the results right...
Not all the systems fault though, I cocked up on fuel and you cocked up on thinking you had finished when you hadn't.

It might be an idea to make a knowledge/sticky topic regarding issues like these - they're bound to come up in the future, this is the 3rd case of it happening in about 4 months I think, so it's hardly rare. At least if people are aware of it they are less likely to throw their toys out of the pram if it happens to them.
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« Reply #68 on: February 12, 2007, 08:13:06 PM +0000 »

Still not sure why the UKGTR results are incorrect when GTR2 and UKGTR's own lapcharts get the results right...
Not all the systems fault though, I cocked up on fuel and you cocked up on thinking you had finished when you hadn't.

The lapcharts aren't always right either - GTR/GTL's exports are really quite poor compared to rFactor's.

It might be an idea to make a knowledge/sticky topic regarding issues like these - they're bound to come up in the future, this is the 3rd case of it happening in about 4 months I think, so it's hardly rare. At least if people are aware of it they are less likely to throw their toys out of the pram if it happens to them.

That's why I always add the details to the rules when there's any controversy. Tongue
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