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  • S4065F1 Keimola: January 11, 2022
January 11, 2022, 11:12:31 PM +0000 - Keimola - UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1965 F1
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
fpolicardi
 Team7
Brabham BT11 (Climax) (#1965) F1 1965 5 +0.841
91.262mph
1 47:27.210
90.700mph
35 1:20.633
91.505mph
Goodyear  
Leo Menegucci
 
BRM P261 (1965) (#1965) F1 1965 3 +0.279
91.901mph
2 +0.780
90.675mph
35 1:20.482
91.677mph
Dunlop  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 512 (#1965) F1 1965 1 1:20.007
92.221mph
3 +11.845
90.324mph
35 1:20.055
92.166mph
Dunlop  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) (#1965) F1 1965 6 +0.917
91.176mph
4 +26.227
89.872mph
35 1:21.432
90.607mph
Dunlop  
bagrupp
 Team Groundhog
Brabham BT7 (Climax) (#1965) F1 1965 11 +1.747
90.251mph
5 +32.157
89.687mph
35 1:21.314
90.739mph
Dunlop  
Tom Johnson
 
Ferrari 512 (#1965) F1 1965 9 +1.269
90.781mph
6 +32.245
89.684mph
35 1:20.905
91.198mph
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) (#1965) F1 1965 4 +0.803
91.305mph
7 +46.898
89.230mph
35 1:20.940
91.158mph
Dunlop  
MagicArsouille
 Equipe BGB
Brabham BT7 (Climax) (#1965) F1 1965 2 +0.170
92.026mph
8 (+2) +59.628
88.839mph
35 1:20.936
91.163mph
Dunlop  
Eric Bilodeau
 Equipe BGB
Brabham BT11 (Climax) (#1965) F1 1965 10 +1.453
90.576mph
9 +1:10.243
88.516mph
35 1:21.950
90.035mph
Goodyear  
Pete Bennett
 TeamTobo
Brabham BT7 (Climax) (#1965) F1 1965 8 +1.237
90.817mph
10 +1:22.699
88.140mph
35 1:21.789
90.212mph
Dunlop  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) (#1965) F1 1965 13 +2.072
89.893mph
11 +1L
87.992mph
34 1:21.859
90.135mph
Dunlop  
Rainier
 Equipe BGB
BRM P261 (1965) (#1965) F1 1965 14 +2.303
89.641mph
12 +16.736
87.479mph
34 1:22.718
89.199mph
Dunlop  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 512 (#1965) F1 1965 15 +3.120
88.760mph
13 +1:00.836
86.154mph
34 1:22.430
89.510mph
Dunlop  
Claudio Navonne
 
Brabham BT7 (Climax) (#1965) F1 1965 16 +3.770
88.071mph
14 +1:03.591
86.072mph
34 1:22.680
89.240mph
Dunlop  
PaulV
 Blue Moose Racing
BRM P261 (1965) (#1965) F1 1965 17 +5.724
86.064mph
15 +2L
84.278mph
33 1:23.109
88.779mph
Dunlop  
Will Bennett
 TeamTobo
Ferrari 512 (#1965) F1 1965 7 +1.135
90.931mph
16 (+5) +3L
82.081mph
32 1:21.988
89.993mph
Dunlop  
Gareth
 
Brabham BT7 (Climax) (#1965) F1 1965 12 +1.920
90.060mph
17 +34L
65.281mph
1 1:48.510
67.997mph
Disco
Dunlop  
60fps UKGPL10
 
Honda RA272 (#1965) F1 1965 18 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) (#1965) F1 1965 ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

This opening race of the 65's Season 40 was not always a shining example of perfect driving, although the podium finishers drove clean and fast for the whole race.
Further back in the field there were multiple rear end collisions and some bad re-joins. I have spent several hours studying the replay, watching each driver through the race.
It is sometimes too easy to comment upon other drivers mistakes in which you were the victim, but conveniently forget about the times that it was you who knocked someone else off of the circuit?
The race post says "REPORTED INCIDENTS ONLY TO BE MODERATED" and I will stick to that, although this race probably deserves a complete and comprehensive moderation and the distribution of many more penalty points etc.


Server replay time: 0

Bastian, Tom have been impeded by Will Bennett not allowing them to lap him for the previous few laps( more about Will in a separate section ).
This has allowed Clive to close up behind Tom. Tristan also catches the tail end of this train of what is now 5 cars.
Tristan is impatient to pass and immediately makes a dive for the inside of Clive's car, into a gap which is already closing as Clive heads for the apex. Contact is made spinning both cars off of the circuit. Clive is spun into the tyres but Tristan is sent a good distance into the infield.
Clive regains the tarmac and sets off after Bastian and Tom. Tristan aims his car at the tarmac and accelerates across the grass arriving at the track without regard for any approaching car. Tristan materialises directly in front of Clive and is punted back into the grass requiring an S/R.


There have been multiple comments/reports about Will Bennet's driving in this race and I will attempt to deal with that in this section.
It would be time consuming, and probably pointless, to list every transgression by Will in this race. But there are a few generalised areas for concern.

a) In the first few laps Will's enthusiasm exceeds his ability, and the grip of his cold tyres, causing him to rear end 3 other cars through outbraking himself. Although he tops the rankings in this race for rear end shunts he was by no means alone in this regard.

b) Later in the race Will is involved in incidents during overtaking moves, including one attempt to unlap himself which results in contact and spins.

c) From lap 15 to lap 20 Will impedes the cars of Bastian and Tom ( + Clive and Tris ) which indirectly results in an incident mentioned above.

Although Will Bennet has been registered with UKGPL for approx 12 months, he has not participated in that many races. Pete Bennet, Will's father is a regular driver in UKGPL and has reported that Will has been driving in another sim which does not demand the same levels of behaviour and etiquette that we expect in UKGPL.
At times Will displayed some genuine pace and ability, but there is more to racing in GPL than just posting fast lap times on a clear track. Other drivers expect anyone racing with UKGPL to observe certain standards.
Because Will's actions had a direct effect upon other drivers, and the final positions, it would be unfair not to impose penalties, especially as other drivers have been penalised in this race. Applying any more severe penalties would be pointless as one cannot finish lower than last and it is more important that lessons are learned for the next race.

Advice
a)At the beginning of a race when cars are inevitably closer, tyres are cold and tanks are full of fuel greater care should be taken.

b) When attempting a pass be sure that you give enough space. GPL is notorius for its "collision box" which often will detect contact when none is made, so it is always wise to give more room if you can.

c) A driver must be aware that he cannot "race" and impede cars that are trying to lap him. Unless he is able to clearly pull away from the cars that have gained a lap on him, he MUST give then an opportunity to pass. Please read the Quick Reference Guide on the Announcements page.



Server replay time: 0h01m40s

In the first lap at 1min 40secs T. Bot rejoins the track and hits D. Rainier causing a chain reaction behind involving other four cars that can not avoid the incident in front.

David has asked that no penalty is given

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« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2022, 02:43:18 PM +0000 »


Remember - we were ALL rookies once upon a time.  Wink


I think i may have regressed back to rookie.
IRO Will, maybe prib would help.
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« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2022, 07:36:18 PM +0000 »


Thanks to the race, I managed to clock up my 10,000 steps.

I don't know if was the frantic pedalling up the hill,  or all that rowing with the shifter;  but at least I achieved something...  and all over 10/11th place!
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« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2022, 05:31:24 PM +0000 »

I received this Message:

 "An incident at time (unknown) in the server replay has been reported.

Failure to allow lapping cars to pass

The incident involved the following drivers:

    Andreas Gebhardt (AnGex)
    Bastian Grupp (bagrupp)
    E vil65 (EvilClive)
    Tom Johnson
    Tristan Bot (MagicArsouille)
    evil 67 (EvilClive)


The incident may have been submitted by one of the above drivers, or by a witness or moderator.

But I do not know what I have to do with that?
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« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2022, 05:34:38 PM +0000 »

Andreas,
more details here :


Quote from: EvilClive on Today at 09:58:54 AM
William Bennet failed to allow cars that were attempting to lap him to pass and held up their progress.


You can add a comment or do nothing  Wink
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« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2022, 06:37:17 PM +0000 »

well I think every thing have been said about Will " the danger " who hit me in the first lap and from this moment the podium was dead.... never mind Will do it again some laps later... so my race is definitivly a bad result for me :/  ....Will, there is no wings in 1967, you have to brake erlier ....
cu next guys whith more fun .....I hope Wink
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« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2022, 06:56:18 PM +0000 »

Thx, Dave. But I am confused.  Hit with a wet fish
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« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2022, 07:31:01 PM +0000 »

The purpose of the Court system if to allow incidents to be investigated impartially and in the cold light of day when everyone has calmed down. Anybody can use the link below the race results to raise an incident report. An important aspect of the Court system is that any driver who is identified on an incident report is sent an IM by the system. They are invited to comment, it is helpful to the moderators to have as much information as possible when investigating an incident report. A reply is not mandatory, but if a driver does not respond then they cannot complain if their side of the story was not taken into account.

An explanation of the Court System is on this web page.

Please be aware, just because you are sent a message by the system, it doesn't mean you are under investigation. It may simply mean you were close to the incident and your opinion would be welcome. There is no need to reply if you do not have anything significant to say.
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« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2022, 08:31:08 PM +0000 »

Thanks Phil, now I see a little clearer.  Smiley
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