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February 08, 2022, 11:12:37 PM +0000 - Anderstorp (GP) - UKGPL Season 40 (Spring 2022) 1965 F1
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Leo Menegucci
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) (#1965) F1 1965 2 +0.022
90.061mph
1 47:21.020
88.600mph
28 1:40.830
89.158mph
Dunlop  
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 Antipasti Racing
Honda RA272 (#1965) F1 1965 4 +0.985
89.200mph
2 +20.525
87.964mph
28 1:40.676
89.294mph
Goodyear  
Tom Johnson
 
Honda RA272 (#1965) F1 1965 5 +1.431
88.807mph
3 +30.321
87.664mph
28 1:40.762
89.218mph
Goodyear  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) (#1965) F1 1965 6 +1.587
88.671mph
4 +31.774
87.620mph
28 1:40.917
89.081mph
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Honda RA272 (#1965) F1 1965 3 +0.665
89.485mph
5 +44.413
87.236mph
28 1:41.068
88.948mph
Goodyear  
Claudio Navonne
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax) (#1965) F1 1965 7 +2.620
87.776mph
6 +57.485
86.843mph
28 1:42.061
88.083mph
Goodyear  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Ferrari 512 (#1965) F1 1965 10 +3.375
87.134mph
7 +59.258
86.790mph
28 1:41.816
88.295mph
Dunlop  
philippe GIRARD
 Equipe BGB
Cooper T77 (Climax) (#1965) F1 1965 8 +2.695
87.712mph
8 +1:09.644
86.480mph
28 1:41.699
88.396mph
Dunlop  
Pete Bennett
 TeamTobo
Honda RA272 (#1965) F1 1965 12 +3.583
86.959mph
9 +1:09.887
86.473mph
28 1:41.541
88.534mph
Goodyear  
bagrupp
 Team Groundhog
Brabham BT11 (Climax) (#1965) F1 1965 15 +4.733
86.002mph
10 +1:30.240
85.872mph
28 1:42.011
88.126mph
Goodyear  
Rainier
 Equipe BGB
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) (#1965) F1 1965 14 +4.479
86.212mph
11 +1:40.615
85.570mph
28 1:43.293
87.032mph
Dunlop  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Honda RA272 (#1965) F1 1965 9 +3.337
87.166mph
12 +1L
85.037mph
27 1:42.334
87.848mph
Goodyear  
Eric Bilodeau
 Equipe BGB
Honda RA272 (#1965) F1 1965 11 +3.376
87.133mph
13 +10.879
84.714mph
27 1:43.368
86.969mph
Goodyear  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) (#1965) F1 1965 13 +3.638
86.913mph
14 +19L
84.111mph
9 1:43.028
87.256mph
Disco
Goodyear  
PaulV
 Blue Moose Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) (#1965) F1 1965 16 +6.505
84.568mph
15 +23L
81.400mph
5 1:46.063
84.759mph
Disco
Dunlop  
MagicArsouille
 Equipe BGB
Brabham BT11 (Climax) (#1965) F1 1965 1 1:39.797
90.081mph
Excluded +25L
85.556mph
3 1:44.474
86.048mph
DQ
Goodyear  
60fps UKGPL10
 
Honda RA272 (#1965) F1 1965 17 DNS ---
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Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

The false start detection and subsequent Stop and Go in the pit lane are all part of the original Papyrus software for GPL. The length of wait in the pits is calculated by GPL, based upon the amount of advantage the driver might have gained.
Once GPL has detected what it considers to be a jumped start, everything that follows is automatic. Failure to make the pit stop within two laps will automatically DQ the driver.

GPL detects that Tristan moves out of his start box before the green flag drops. Although Tristan reverses back into position, the software decides that this was a false start and he is shown the Black Flag and a "Pit In" notice.
Tristan fails to make the stop in the pits within 2 laps and is therefore DQ'd.
This procedure is part of the GPL software and is the same for everyone, even at circuits like Spa, where it is necessary to have your foot on the brake pedal when joining the grid to avoid rolling forward and incurring a penalty.
Regrettably the DQ must stand.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1965
1:39.797
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MagicArsouille
Qualifying
Brabham BT11 (Climax)February 08, 2022, 11:12:37 PM +0000
S4065F1
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1965
1:40.676
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Race
Honda RA272February 08, 2022, 11:12:37 PM +0000
S4065F1
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« on: February 07, 2022, 05:52:40 PM +0000 »

Season 40 takes us on a Scandinavian based competition with a few excursions into other Northern countries.

The third race of this season will be Anderstorp 73 .The Scandinavian Raceway at Anderstorp in Sweden. It has a long straight (called Flight Straight, which was also used as a 980 metres (3,220 ft) aircraft runway as well as several banked corners, making car setup an engineering compromise. Unusually, the pit lane is located halfway round the lap.



 The full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  
Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left.  
 

Handicapping
Drivers are required to drive all 7 cars and no car can be driven more than twice.

Drivers are reminded that Lap 1 reported incidents carry an extra 1 place penalty.

Unlimited resets will be allowed with no need to make a S&G in the pit lane.



Race list = iGOR
Server = UKGPL10
IP Address = 217.155.118.41
Race date = 08-02-2022
GPL mod = 65
60fps Patch = 60fpsV2newmod
Track = atorp
Qualification = 20:45  UK time -> 45min
Race = race starts at ~21:30 UK time
Race length = ~45 min -> 28 laps
Damage Model = INT
Replay= Here

Please check the Season 40 details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1691&theme=6) regarding rules and the 1965 F1  Championship pages ( https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1731&theme=6 )in particular.







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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2022, 09:48:30 PM +0000 »


didnt even get across the start line before im confronted with spinning and wrecking cars.  a few laps in and some more spins, nudges and mishaps see me dropped right back and im only a lap or two into the race.

Im not really fast enough to be a contender but love to race for the fun of it and my love of GPL.  racing with you guys is fun. But i just couldnt be driving around at the back waiting to be lapped in yet another race.

So went for a nice cuppa.

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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2022, 10:06:13 PM +0000 »

There were a few bumps at the start. Not sure who / why etc. have not seen the replay. My internet packed up about lap 9 or 10. Bit of a shame as the BT11 is my preferred chassis and I was semi competitive.

Paul, you seemed on the pace for the first few laps - in an underpowered Cooper. Your pace looks to have improved this season.

I'll take your advice and get a cuppa.
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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2022, 10:38:24 PM +0000 »

When I got on the grid, on my shifter the first gear was "on ", then the car moove in front from around one meter !so I do back gear to be at the right place at start before the flag man moove.....I let pass L.M. to be shure  to don't get any advantage of my stupid moove, I don't toutch anything, just my shifter was not in neutral !!!....I think that I finish second but to be confirm on the reaplay....exept if the moderators agree with the disqualification !?.....
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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2022, 10:51:54 PM +0000 »

When I got on the grid, on my shifter the first gear was "on ", then the car moove in front from around one meter !so I do back gear to be at the right place at start before the flag man moove.....I let pass L.M. to be shure  to don't get any advantage of my stupid moove, I don't toutch anything, just my shifter was not in neutral !!!....I think that I finish second but to be confirm on the reaplay....exept if the moderators agree with the disqualification !?.....

You still had 3 laps counted. Did you failed to pit in?
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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2022, 11:05:14 PM +0000 »



You still had 3 laps counted. Did you failed to pit in?
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...?? ...if I had " pit in " I can restart ? ....I'm not DQ ?
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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2022, 12:28:51 AM +0000 »

From manual:

"Black: Displayed only at the start/finish line.  Indicates that you have violated a rule and must report to your pit for additional information.  There are three conditions under which you will receive a black flag:

   Jumped Start: If your car rolls too far out of your starting block before the green flag falls, you will be penalized according to the severity of the infraction.  You will see the black flag, after which you must enter your pit stall and wait until the penalty board disappears.  The time that you must wait will be appropriate to the advantage you gained from jumping the start.  You have several laps to enter the pits and receive this penalty after being given the black flag.  If you fail to do so, race control will stop scoring you and you will be disqualified.

   Backwards Travel: If you travel in a direction counter to race traffic for too long (and it doesn't take long, so when you spin, make sure you get your bearings before re-joining the track), you will be disqualified from the session.

   Cut Course: If you short-cut the course (that is, gain an advantage from driving across an area that is not a part of the race track proper) during the race, you will receive a black flag stop-and-wait penalty.  You must enter your pit stall and wait until the penalty board disappears before rejoining the race.  If you short-cut the circuit in a Practice session, the time for that lap is simply thrown out.
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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2022, 06:19:09 PM +0000 »

ok....I did'nt know about waiting in pits....but I don't see black flag !...just " pit in "...and as anybody can see on the reaplay I don't get any advantage at start , I don't try to keep my advantage of the pole position....so I rock on ....  I am in bigg hope that the moderators will understand and be cool about the race result  ...Wink
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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2022, 09:01:21 AM +0000 »

First of all congratulations to those who managed to get on the podium. I think they and two or three guys are on another level, which encourages me to constantly improve myself. I was pleasantly surprised to be in the top 10 in the classification. I started, as I always do, with one eye on the flag and the other on the car in front. I kept my position at the start, but on the last corner of the first lap I spun completely. I was very lucky, I didn't hit anyone, but I lost a position to Philippe who was coming very strong with the Cooper. I was able to recover the position, but I lost a place again when Evil passed me with the Honda and it was impossible for me to keep up with him. After 10 or 12 laps I was able to pull away from Philippe, but a Ferrari was getting bigger in the mirrors.It was Fulvio, who followed me like a shadow until the end, only by pushing the rpm up to 10500 laps I was able to keep my position. Thanks for organising these races.

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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2022, 12:58:10 PM +0000 »

Never mind the result, the race was fantastic. Just a quick thank you to Phillipe, Bastian and Dave R for their company. Some really close racing there and a lot of respect for everyone's driving. It was a pleasure from beginning to end. Thank you.
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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2022, 02:00:04 PM +0000 »

Ok ! I'm DQ !! ... the rules are the rules ....but I am very sad that the Moderators apply to the letter the GPL rules ....as anybody can see on the replay, I didn't steal the start , more, I take voluntarily a poor start to not take any advantage of my pole position ... so why should I be punish for this ?... where is the fun ?... I was hopping for a little more flexibility from UKGPL ....hum! very disappointed !...
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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2022, 04:10:54 PM +0000 »

... the rules are the rules ....but I am very sad that the Moderators apply to the letter the GPL rules ....
The rules are the same for you, me and everyone else and this has always been the case. This rule is part of the game we have never tried to bypass it. The only occasion the moderators would ever consider overruling a DQ awarded by the game is if it was as a result of network issues (or a track configuration in the case of driving the wrong way around the track whilst trying to re-join from the scenery). This was not the case here. You could have avoided the DQ by doing what the game asks, i.e. serving a time penalty in the pit stall.

Always keep your foot on the brake when you join the grid and if the game shows you a black flag, please serve the required time penalty in the pit stall.
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2022, 09:56:32 AM +0000 »

....hum! very disappointed !...

Try using the clutch threshold pal. You will have less of an advantage but will have no surprise at starts. Show some respect to ones who put up their own time to organize these for some guys that just show up for race.
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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2022, 03:59:11 PM +0000 »

....hum! very disappointed !...

 Show some respect to ones who put up their own time to organize these for some guys that just show up for race.

....well Leo, I don't know why you said this ! ... I don't disrespect anyone , I just tel my feeling about a situation that I feel unfair, because in fact I didn't steal the start so for my point of vue it's not a anticipate start and I don't take any advantage at start and of my pole position ... it's only because the game ( a machine ! ) said that I steal the start ? it's just like I give a false information to the machine  ... that's why I was hopping for a milder punishment ( for example the time that I should have spend in the pits and 10s more ...deducted from my final time !? ) ... the rules can change .... no ?
    ( ...and you know Leo , I am racing in UKGPL for quite a few years , I'm not a tourist just show up for race I practice every days on the UK server ( I don't see so much people there ! ), and I have a total respect for all Moderators , and to be disappointed  is not disrespect !)

... the rules are the rules ....but I am very sad that the Moderators apply to the letter the GPL rules ....
The only occasion the moderators would ever consider overruling a DQ awarded by the game is if it was as a result of network issues (or a track configuration in the case of driving the wrong way around the track whilst trying to re-join from the scenery).


... so sometime you go against the Machine GPL  Wink   .... compare to drive the wrong way trying to rejoin the track when you don't know exactly where you are ...to the right ? ...to the left ?....black flag is normal ....! my start was safe  Wink I don't gain any centimeter and I purposely lost ground Wink
Anyways, big thanks and bravo for your job in UKGPL  ....long life UKGPL !
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