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April 22, 2007, 09:03:21 PM +0100 - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - UKGTR Season 5 Endurance Masters
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 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Joss
 
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#220728) GT1 5 +0.681
113.754mph
1 1:21:10.300
106.744mph
45 1:42.702
112.489mph
Michelin +13.0kg
Paul968
 Kerb Crawlers
Saleen S7-R (#4004) GT1 2 +0.255
114.233mph
2 +0.598
106.731mph
45 1:42.816
112.364mph
Pirelli +5.0kg
Eccles
 
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#4001) GT1 8 +1.025
113.370mph
3 +11.854
106.485mph
45 1:43.292
111.846mph
Michelin +25.0kg
Zacari
 Team Shark Junior
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#950003) GT1 9 +1.379
112.977mph
4 +16.688
106.380mph
45 1:43.104
112.050mph
Michelin +25.0kg
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Saleen S7-R (#890001) GT1 12 +2.170
112.110mph
5 +18.840
106.333mph
45 1:43.189
111.958mph
Pirelli +5.0kg
CeeJay
 GTN Drivers Club
Saleen S7-R (#940024) GT1 1 1:40.879
114.521mph
6 +20.051
106.307mph
45 1:42.297
112.934mph
Pirelli +5.0kg
Nevski
 
Lister Storm (#4014) GT1 6 +0.783
113.639mph
7 +26.552
106.165mph
45 1:42.672
112.522mph
Dunlop -25.0kg
Bernie Lomax
 Legends Racing
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#870008) GT1 11 +1.837
112.473mph
8 +43.705
105.795mph
45 1:43.515
111.605mph
Michelin +25.0kg
BACKO
 Racin24-7
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#990037) GT1 10 +1.417
112.935mph
9 (+4) +1:31.419
104.778mph
45 1:43.059
112.099mph
Michelin +25.0kg
LEUVEN
 Team Shark
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#960001) GT2 15 +7.265
106.828mph
10 +2L
101.161mph
43 1:49.018
105.972mph
Michelin +15.0kg
james
 Racin24-7
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#890037) GT2 16 +8.210
105.903mph
11 +28.851
100.570mph
43 1:49.927
105.095mph
Michelin +15.0kg
Luis Branco
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Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#980031) GT2 13 +7.222
106.871mph
12 +36.297
100.418mph
43 1:49.029
105.961mph
Michelin +15.0kg
Darren Seal
 
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#350453) GT2 17 +8.355
105.762mph
13 +3L
99.564mph
42 1:49.788
105.228mph
Michelin +15.0kg
Madd-RIP
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Morgan Aero 8 (#790029) GTC 14 +1:38.004
97.601mph
42 1:52.236
102.933mph
Dunlop +10.0kg
Reign Man
 
TVR Tuscan T400R (#240538) GTC 19 +9.988
104.204mph
15 +1:38.450
97.592mph
42 1:52.154
103.008mph
Dunlop +15.0kg
will16v
 28CD Motorsports
Porsche 996 GT3 Cup (#4111) GT3 20 +17.030
97.981mph
16 +5L
93.357mph
40 1:57.011
98.733mph
Pirelli +10.0kg
mo
 Kerb Crawlers
Saleen S7-R (#4005) GT1 4 +0.591
113.854mph
17 +9L 36 1:43.096
112.059mph
unknown
Pirelli +5.0kg
Enzo
 Racin24-7
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#890037) GT2 14 +7.250
106.843mph
18 +29L 16 1:49.834
105.184mph
unknown
Michelin +15.0kg
JonM_uk
 Team Shark Junior
Maserati MC12 (#870003) GT1 3 +0.329
114.149mph
19 (+2) +31L 14 1:43.448
111.677mph
unknown
Pirelli -20.0kg
Truetom
 Legends Racing
Maserati MC12 (#950008) GT1 7 +0.911
113.497mph
20 +41L 4 1:46.466
108.512mph
unknown
Pirelli -20.0kg
pribeiro
 
Ferrari 360 Modena (#4067) GT2 18 +9.857
104.328mph
21 +42L 3 1:57.852
98.028mph
unknown
Pirelli -30.0kg

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 384s

Backo tries to outbrake Zacari, fails and goes wide, miraculously avoiding Eccles and Zacari.

This was particularly ill-advised as it was lap 1 and if there had been any contact this would have been a penalty

  • BACKO (Backo)warning — Don't be so over-ambitious on cold tyres.


Server replay time: 633s

Backo slightly cuts the previous corner to get a run on Truetom but inexplicably stays too far to the left and clips Truetom sending him into the wall. There was plenty of track space available to avoid this incident and the use of corner cutting to gain an advantage is STRICTLY prohibited.

  • BACKO (Backo)penalty — Avoidable contact with Truetom — 2 places lost


Server replay time: 870s

JonM tries an overtaking move that was far too ambitious and removes Paul968 from the track in spectacular style.


Server replay time: 930s

Bernie Lomax turns in on the racing line to find Backo on his inside and there is contact.

Backo makes the passing attempt from way too deep, Bernie had every right to the racing line as he's significantly more than a car length ahead at the turn-in.

  • BACKO (Backo)penalty — Late attempt at a pass and subsequent avoidable contact. — 2 places lost


Server replay time: 2013s

Freq & Mo are battling it out down the straight and catch Enzo as they enter Stowe.

Mo makes a late move to the left to get better entry to the corner which leads Freq to dive into his inside and into the corner too quickly and brakes too late whilst on the inside of Mo (and indeed goes very wide at the corner as a result) forcing Mo to go much wider than he anticipated and into a high speed collision with Enzo even though Enzo stayed a little wide to let the GT's through.

Freq then slows to allow Mo to re-join.

Whilst Enzo was the innocent victim in the collision with Mo, there is no excuse for the foul language directed at Mo using the in-game chat.

Even though Mo's late move invited it, it was Freq's unsucessful late braking on the attempt to pass which was the main factor in this incident. With Mo ahead and a slower car coming into the corner this was simply too risky a move.

  • Enzo (Enzo Amico)warning — Use of in-race chat is not acceptable but doubly so for abusive language.
  • Joss (FreQ)warning — There wasn't a passing move to be made here.
  • mocaution — Be careful about making late moves into a corner


Server replay time: 2880s

Zacari gets a good run on Paul968 and is 90% ahead when he starts the turn-in to find Paul968 still on the inside as they approach the apex and there is contact almost flipping Zacari over.

This is a tricky call as neither driver does very much wrong.

However, as the overtaking car, Zacari has the responsibility to pass safely. As he doesn't ever get fully ahead he could, and should have left a bit more space for Paul.

  • Zacariwarning — Leave more room when not fully ahead

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« on: April 06, 2007, 09:43:08 PM +0100 »

Practice 1:20:00(15 mins)full time drivers only
Practice 2:20:15(10 mins)reserves (not Clubmen) may join too
Qual 1:20:25(5 mins)Clubmen may join too
Qual 2:20:30(25 mins)
Race:20:55(80 mins)note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any GT1, G2, GT2, GTC or GT3 from the UKGTR Skin Pack v2.3 (G2 and GT3 cars will not score points).
Weather: changeable, based on real-world conditions at the start of the event.
Track: Silverstone ('Northampton') GP (download from here; see this thread if you have problems)
Race Start Time 14:00
Pit Stops: All drivers must make a minimum of one pit stop. This must involve entering the pit lane at the speed limit, and coming to a complete standstill in the designated pit box. Tyres do not have to be changed and no fuel has to be added. You cannot take your mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: UKGTR Endurance Masters
Password: available from the event page (see the Show Password link under the announcement text)

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(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page
(2b) Reserves (anyone without a full time spot) should not join until the stated session, regardless of the time.
(2c) Drivers with a full time spot in the Endurance Clubmen should only take G2 or GT3 cars. Other reserves may take any permitted car.
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the skin and ballast pack (see link above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2007, 08:56:36 PM +0100 »

Unfortunately I'm late for this one. Thought I may have made it on time. Good luck TS and TSJ.

See you all at Estoril

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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2007, 09:00:59 PM +0100 »

There's still 1 minute left to get in!  Shocked Grin
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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2007, 09:21:27 PM +0100 »

What a disapointing...i had MSN on and During laps 2,3 and 4
someone was trying to talk with me (several times)
i got 9 fps while this happened. I guess ReinMan and Madd-Rip
were thinking (pribeiro is driving even bad than usual) Roll Eyes
Anyway, i had to quit, because didnt stop those low fps moments,
as the guy who was trying to talk with me, didnt stop do it Sad
Season 5 will have no much history, i believe, Porsches in front battling
for win and then the rest battling to avoid be last Lips Sealed

Damn MSN Angry

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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2007, 09:27:10 PM +0100 »

Well, that was quick! 2, maybe 3 laps. Contact, bang into wall, puncture.  Angry  Must have made 200 laps in preparation for this event.   dots  Let's be more patient, guys. 1 corner in 80 minute race doesn't make that much difference.  no

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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2007, 09:38:22 PM +0100 »

I could do with listening to that advice TT Sad Really sorry Paul it was a bad move Sad My car felt great up till my contact with paul then after I just couldn't control the bugger. Thought I had aero damage so came in thinking I go for 100L and hard rears and see where I could get to. Pitted in...No aero Damage Huh Went back out and promptly spun. I couldn't take anymore and hit escape Embarrassed
Really sorry for then contact Paul Sad
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2007, 10:23:48 PM +0100 »

* EDITED TO REMOVE PUBLIC INCIDENT DISCUSSION - PM'd to ensure incident report is submitted in the correct manner and privately *

Unfortunately as much as it saddens me I have no option to report this incident and await an official responSe.
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2007, 10:39:57 PM +0100 »

Frustrating race, lost about 10 seconds in the pits due to forgetting where the ignition was mapped to Cheesy a bit of bad driving after the stop put me down another 8 seconds or so, and to cap it all I had some lag over the s/f line, went across the line on the grass and it didn't register my lap Huh so I went from 4th to 9th.  Shame, hopefully the mods can sort the mess out Grin
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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2007, 10:48:58 PM +0100 »

Great race, lots of different cars with about 8 guys all within about 20 seconds of winning pace towards the end.  Grin

I decided to try the Lister this time since nobody else seems to like it. Suprised myself with a 1:41.6 on my first flying lap in qual, which put me in the top 6 on the grid. I had tanked it with 100L of fuel and mediums all around for the start. In retrospect I may have been able to take softs, since I ended up pitting after the fuel was down to 3L and still no sign of worn tyres after nearly 1 hour driving hard  Huh

Had lots of great battles throughout this one - too many to go into really. Great driving by everyone, including the very aware GT2 cars. I made a couple of mistakes - first running wide in the final complex when trying to lap a GT2 and ended up in the gravel, then spun it when I rejoined the tarmac  Roll Eyes  That cost me about 12 seconds.  Second mistake was not knowing where the line was for slowing down in the pits - i slowed down when I saw a line, but it turned out to be 250 metre before the correct line.  Roll Eyes  That cost me another 10 seconds or so. I finished about 27 seconds from the winner, so could have been a strong 3rd without those errors.

Clearly then, the Lister has the pace, especially if it can go a full tank of fuel on medium tyres without getting any tyres worn messages. It meant I only had to put 42L in the car at my stop, and I could have switched to softs there as well, though I didn't bother. I intend to stick with the Lister for the remainder of the season, and aim to get some better results in the remaining rounds by avoiding the silly mistakes I made this time  Grin

Congrats to Freq on a great win. Not sure what happened to Claus who seemed a bit out of sorts early in the race, and Ruskus vanished  from the server 10 minutes before the start  Huh Still, it all makes the championship battle more interesting  Cool
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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2007, 10:53:23 PM +0100 »

Well I thought Pribeiro's lag gremlins had got him again, switch MSN off next time m8! As for the race, an amazing fight with Reign man for 80 minutes, he managed to scoot off and build up a good gap and we were see-sawing during the lap but I just couldn't make any impression as I'd fuelled up for a long first stint.
After my stop I was amazed to find myself in front of him, apparantly he'd spun after his stop giving me a gap....which lasted no time at all tbh.
This meant a furious and fair fight to the flag, a few time he got along side but I managed to shut the door, and after one manouvre went wrong he graciously allowed me past to resume the fight. Thankyou very much, a very noble gesture, and very much appreciated. Although my car was sliding so much I think another few laps and you would have got me anyway. One minor gripe, some GT's were a little forceful at times, I know we're hugely slower, but is waiting for the straights a little bit too much to ask? Sometimes moving off line in a corner causes more problems. We are aware you're there just give us a bit of space too.

Once again a truly magnificent race, Reign Man.

PS sorry to Paul btw, I lost the back end. Many apologies.
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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2007, 10:57:45 PM +0100 »

Temporary results and replay available, but there will hopefully be a correction due to Zacari's problem.

My race was pretty boring really. The Saleen is so unexciting compared to the Lambo and I was nowhere near the pace of everyone else in GT. Anyway I did my thing, just stayed way out of trouble, let people pass if they wanna cause I know I'm slower, but above all just race the pace I know I'm not going to fall off at and avoid collisions. Started last on the grid by a margin and just hoped to pick up places as people inevitably went off being heros and villians and also picking up my usual massive amount of time in the pit stop. Lo and behold I finished 5th after not passing a soul from an overtake. Daft! CJ was very scary as he warped all over the place, but I can say at least once I beat him Grin Tongue, even if there was clearly something dodgy going on at his end to make him so slow and warpy.
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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2007, 11:00:53 PM +0100 »

Just a reminder to everyone that chat is not allowed during races. ONLY "pit in" and "pit out" signals are allowed. Everything else is not allowed, including "thanks" and comments about incidents. The reason is that it is very off putting for every one else in the race.

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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2007, 11:08:59 PM +0100 »

Please submit all incident reports using the incident reporting form.

A link entitled "submit an incident report" can be found at the bottom of the individual event's results page or in this instance using the following link (click me).

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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2007, 11:41:28 PM +0100 »

First need to apologise to Luis Branco - sorry man, I knew I was fast round Bridge and committed to pass you on the exit as I knew I'd be carrying more speed down there. Your kind "after you sir" move unfortunately meant me running into you when I panicked after seeing you slow down - sorry! At least there was only minimal time lost and no major damage to either car. :/

Great dicing with Mo for the first half of the race, really evenly matched and great fun. I felt terrible when Enzo went off, as I thought I'd done it! I didn't feel any contact but looked in my mirror and saw a Porsche upside down and immediately thought my stupid attempt to pass Mo had gone even worse by taking out a lappee.....after that I tried to pull myself together and get into a rhythm but felt awful. Embarrassed   
Feel free to copy me into the incident report Enzo/Mo, despite me not making any contact with anyone, I was very close to you both with my bodged up attempt at overtaking Mo. Very sorry if this contributed to the crash. Sad

Pitstop went a bit pants as I overfilled by almost 20L again, I've really got to get more aggressive in my pit strategy. Came out behind CJ but his net problems reappeared and managed to come home first after a late charge from Paul. Good race Paul, had me sweating at the end!

Very strange race though, as happy as I am to have somehow won my first ever Master's race, I'm under no illusions about how tough this championship is. I was very lucky to have Ruskus, Jon, and CJ all suffer problems and dissapear during the race and know I would have been fighting for a podium or 4th had this not happened. These days don't come along often, so I'll take what I can. Finally I can start feeling good after feeling awful all race Smiley

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« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2007, 11:43:52 PM +0100 »

Just a reminder to everyone that chat is not allowed during races. ONLY "pit in" and "pit out" signals are allowed. Everything else is not allowed, including "thanks" and comments about incidents. The reason is that it is very off putting for every one else in the race.

Thanks.
My bad on this one Simon, I forgot where all my binds were and was accidentally hitting the wrong ones for much of the race  Lips Sealed

Usually I thank people by flashing my headlights, but can't do this when other lappee's are in front of me as well, as I might be misunderstood. I usually keep to simple "thanks" or "sorry" messages though.

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