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April 29, 2007, 09:01:51 PM +0100 - Estoril (GP (2000 onwards)) - UKGTR Season 5 Endurance Clubmen
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
BACKO
 Racin24-7
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#990037) GT1 1 1:33.610
99.125mph
1 1:21:03.959
93.478mph
49 1:34.622
98.065mph
Michelin +25.0kg
picnic
 Team Shark
Maserati MC12 (#870001) GT1 4 +0.781
98.305mph
2 +18.760
93.119mph
49 1:35.035
97.638mph
Pirelli -20.0kg
Kerr
 
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#4024) GT1 2 +0.036
99.087mph
3 +44.487
92.631mph
49 1:35.426
97.238mph
Michelin +13.0kg
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Maserati MC12 (#950008) GT1 3 +0.642
98.450mph
4 +48.308
92.559mph
49 1:35.168
97.502mph
Pirelli -20.0kg
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Chevrolet Corvette C5-R (#910001) GT1 7 +2.006
97.045mph
5 +1:27.729
91.822mph
49 1:36.727
95.931mph
Michelin -15.0kg
Jure
 Racin24-7
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#990037) GT1 6 +1.286
97.781mph
6 +1:33.163
91.721mph
49 1:35.891
96.767mph
Michelin +25.0kg
lincescom
 Sonic Racing Team
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#980031) GT2 12 +8.198
91.143mph
7 +3L
87.012mph
46 1:41.678
91.259mph
Michelin +15.0kg
Gomes Silva
 Sonic Racing Team
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#980031) GT2 9 +7.104
92.133mph
8 +9.812
86.839mph
46 1:41.979
90.990mph
Michelin +15.0kg
Munkez
 
Ferrari 360 GTC (#4087) GT2 13 +8.241
91.104mph
9 +20.556
86.649mph
46 1:41.651
91.284mph
Pirelli -10.0kg
Adam Parle
 Legends Racing
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#940008) GTC 15 +8.514
90.861mph
10 +32.016
86.448mph
46 1:43.458
89.689mph
Dunlop -25.0kg
popabawa
 Legends Racing
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#940008) GTC 11 +7.977
91.341mph
11 +58.133
85.993mph
46 1:43.297
89.829mph
Dunlop -25.0kg
Nick Phillips
 Team Shark
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#3100) GTC 14 +8.301
91.051mph
12 +58.564
85.986mph
46 1:42.832
90.235mph
Dunlop -25.0kg
Paul968
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 996 GT3 Cup (#4121) GT3 19 +9.345
90.127mph
13 +4L
85.580mph
45 1:43.658
89.516mph
Pirelli +10.0kg
Nevski
 
Porsche 996 GT3 Cup (#3113) GT3 21 +9.763
89.763mph
14 +19.332
85.242mph
45 1:43.301
89.826mph
Pirelli +10.0kg
pribeiro
 
Dodge Viper Competition Coupé (#4115) GT3 20 +9.534
89.962mph
15 +30.466
85.049mph
45 1:43.578
89.585mph
Dunlop -10.0kg
silver53
 Team Shark
Mosler MT900R (#880001) GTC 23 +11.023
88.682mph
16 +1:17.344
84.244mph
45 1:44.137
89.104mph
Dunlop +20.0kg
mo
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 996 GT3 Cup (#4123) GT3 17 +8.971
90.456mph
17 +5L
82.705mph
44 1:43.719
89.464mph
Pirelli +10.0kg
drumbstick
 KR3W Racing
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#990050) GT1 5 +1.105
97.968mph
18 +8L 41 1:35.590
97.072mph
engine
Michelin +13.0kg
Truetom
 Legends Racing
Porsche 996 GT3 Cup (#4121) GT3 22 +9.964
89.589mph
19 +13L 36 1:43.857
89.345mph
unknown
Pirelli +10.0kg
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#990013) GTC 18 +9.244
90.216mph
20 +15L 34 1:43.686
89.492mph
unknown
Dunlop -25.0kg
TinMan
 Team Oldie Racing
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#560014) GT1 8 +2.465
96.582mph
21 +30L 19 1:36.843
95.816mph
unknown
Michelin +13.0kg
Splintheter
 
BMW M3 GTR (#4142) GT2 16 +8.827
90.583mph
22 +32L 17 1:44.135
89.106mph
suspension
Michelin +25.0kg
Oilseal
 Team Oldie Racing
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#560014) GT1 10 +7.728
91.566mph
23 +44L 5 1:42.514
90.515mph
unknown
Michelin +13.0kg

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 360s

Ginsters Sponsored goes down the inside of Adam Parle under braking for T7, resulting in side contact. Both cars remain on track and Ginsters holds back to let Adam regain the position. Even though Adam was early on the brakes, this was largely due to slower cars in front, and there was no real overtaking opportunity here.


Server replay time: 403s

Mike Cooper is coming up to pass Gomes Silva on the main straight. Mike brakes slightly early and then comes off the brakes and then brakes again, but not in time to avoid clipping Gomes into T1. Gomes is spun round but Mike does the gentlemanly thing and waits for him to rejoin.
Mike was suffering frame rate issues, which contributed to missing the braking point, and retired shortly after to be safe so I'm not giving a penalty in this case.

  • Oilseal (Mike Cooper)caution — contact with Gomes Silva
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 1097s

Backo is aproaching the G3 battle and about to lap Paul 968. Directly ahead of Paul is Truetom and Mo and all three G3 cars are having a close battle.
Backo ovetakes all 3 cars in one go and nips between Mo and TT under braking almost contacting with Mo as he turns in.
In this case Backo should have shown more restraint, especially when under no pressure for the lead. It is always safer to make the pass under power rather than under braking, and the lapping car should always be prepared to hold back until a safe oportunity to pass arises.


Server replay time: 1396s

Backo is about to lap Gomes Silva as they exit T7. Gomes holds the racing line and eases off slightly to let Backo through. Backo stays on the power and on the racing line, gets caught out and nudges Gomes into the gravel. With a bit more patience on Backo's part the incident could have been avoided.

  • BACKO (Backo)caution — contact with Gomes Silva
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 2033s

Popabawa is slightly off line after letting a lapping car through and brakes slightly early for Gancho. Nick Philips closes up, brakes at the usual point, and rear ends the slower Pops sending him off into the unforgiving Estoril gravel. It is always wise to leave more room for manouver when the car in front is slow or off line.


Server replay time: 3048s

Munkez gets some power oversteer as he leaves his pit box and has to correct the car, which delays him, and the approaching Adam Parle has to back off as he exits the pits.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 4472s

Backo is about to lap the G3 car of Mo and as they reach Gancho he goes up the inside resulting in side contact. Mo was on the racing line and had already committed to the corner when Backo made the attempt to pass. Incidents like this can be avoided which is why it is always best for a lapping car to make the pass under power rather then under braking. This way the lapped driver can ease off the throttle to accomodate the pass safely.


Server replay time: 4494s

Munkez is following PRibeiro down the main straight and is about to lap the Viper CC. The Viper's speed on the straight makes it tough for the 360 to get past but as they reach the braking zone PRibeiro brakes early and flashes his lights to signal Munkez to pass.
Munkes gets distracted and gets his braking wrong causing him to loose the rear and spin out.
Even though it would have been more helpful for PRibeiro to ease off earlier there was still plenty of room given to Munkes to allow him to pass.

  • Racing incident

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« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2007, 10:34:15 PM +0100 »

Well done class winners.

A poor race by me. Suffered horrendous understeer the whole race. My tyre temps were only 73 left front and 68 right and that was medium tyres! Don't know why they were so far out. Held second up to the pit stop and was 2 secs ahead of Picnic. After the stops found myself 18secs down on picnic. I thought I made good stop and no real time loss out outlap.

Found myself all by myself after pit stop with no chance of catching to the two ahead. I just fought with my car at a reasonable pace to keep 3rd. Could not do anymore with the car performing so poorly.

I will have to find 0.04 of a sec in qualifying. That's twice Backo has pipped me by 0.03 of a second
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« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2007, 10:38:46 PM +0100 »

Sorry to hear that Tom Sad

This race was fun because the Viper Coupe, its fun to drive laugh
2/3 of race i had a cool fight with SBG, the other 1/3 with Mo Smiley
Every exit corners, using 2nd or 3rd gear, were fun, spinning tires
and balancing with the steer Grin
But even with med/hard tires, they only give good handling for 10 laps,
after that, the fun is higher Roll Eyes
Viper Coupe is a great car melting tires and evaporating fuel Grin
but in a sprint race, should be cool, because i was in 1st (G3) cars
and 12th overall when i pit, after 48 mnts. Cool

Congrats to Backo, Lincescom and Paul968 Smiley
Well done to all
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« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2007, 10:42:06 PM +0100 »

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« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2007, 10:44:19 PM +0100 »

Was thoroughly enjoying the race - sure I could have had that pesky Gymer(honest, guv). Then had ANOTHER lost connection. This is the 4th race in a row that I have lost the connection(2GTR2 and 2 GTL). Have no idea what's happening.

:'(  I was really having to work hard just to stay ahead - was really disappointed when you vanished. Sad When it happens to me it's usually because my ADSL connection has cycled to a slower speed - does your modem/router have a log of events?

Had a vey exciting race - early on with TinMan and Jure, later with Drumbstick, who was destroying me on pace but eventually blew his Lambo's engine giving me 5th back. Also tried to put Jonzo under some pressure when I came out just behind him after my stop and before his, but despite him locking wheels everywhere couldn't get close enough to have a bash at unlapping myself. After that I had no chance of getting 4th, but had to keep pushing because Jure was homing in on me to the tune of nearly 2s a lap! Shocked From 30s behind after his stop he was only 5 behind at the end. Shocking!

Big thanks to all the GT2, GTC and GT3 cars - I was pretty forceful with a lot of you simply because I always seemed to have someone just ahead of ust behind. Thanks chaps. Cool

Not sure how I feel about 5th - I thoroughly enjoyed the race but my teammate has a massive speed advantage over me and I still don't seem to be getting to grips properly with the GT1 cars. Huh
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« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2007, 10:47:28 PM +0100 »

That was tiring more than anything ..... after an atrocious start and a little bodywork re-modeling I picked up some pace through the first third of the race - had a tought time keeping up with Nick.  Made a few cock-ups to let him open up what I thought was an unassailable gap ...... until the pit stop  Wink when he got distracted by one of the Legends pit girls and let me infront.

After the pit stop it was a question of how quickly the leading GT2's would get me ..... and not long was the answer.  Didn't really try to fight them off .... as there was no way I would keep them behind me.

Made a few cockups in the final third of the race, but kept it together and stayed ahead of my fellow Legends Vertigo driving teammate Pops - tough luck with the beaching Pops, you had the GTC race in the bag.  But as you say, Legends 1-2 does the GTC champ nicely.  4th and 5th in the GT2/GTC class keeps thing ticking over.

Am thoroughly knackered now ..... time to sleep I think....
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« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2007, 10:51:14 PM +0100 »

Great race for me, was really not looking forward to what the changeable weather was going to throw at us when I saw light rain at Underground Weather. Lucky for me I was late in and need some food before I raced and it had dried up Smiley although track temp was well down on the sprint last Tuesday.

Qual'ed 4th but the car felt inconsistent compared with the sprint, those pesky temps again I suspect. Each session got a bit warmer and the car was ok in the race, tyre temps were all a bit down but that helps them last.

Managed to sneak 3rd on the first lap when Mark ran wide with his cold brakes/tyres and could stay with Brian K. For some reason I was expecting Brian to do a long first stint and decided to pit, mortified to see Brian pull into the pits in front of me. Lucky for me I was not filling up too much and had no aero / damage to repair and got out before Brian. Amazed the gap was as big as it turned out but not complaining Wink

When I can out Backo, yet to stop, steamed passed me on my cold tyres to put me a lap down. But he pitted a couple of laps later and to my surprise came out straight in front of me a lap later. I managed to stay with him, I think me in his mirrors was slowing him down. Once we got split lapping some the slower cars he just knuckled down and disappear in to the distance. Well done mate.

Chuffed to bits with a 2nd Smiley

Sadly I'm going to miss the next round :'( So battle will be resumed in 4 weeks.
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« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2007, 10:53:58 PM +0100 »

First off apologies to pops for the punt into the hairpin, got caught out a bit as you were slower having let the GT past, was locked up and did just enough to turn you round, however felt less guilty when you got me on the last lap. Grin

Thanks for the apology Nick. It wasn't much contact but it took ages for me to re-join the track, I was having problems getting out of the gravel and it was in a really dangerous place so I was trying to be really careful.

Pretty good race though, I was really happy to qualify in GTC/GT2 2nd place then lucky at the start to build a bit of lead with mistakes from other drivers so I was able to take it a bit easy to keep the tyres in good shape, I still had reasonable grip over the last past of the race to pip you Nick, I kept praying for another lap!

The GT2's finally got revenge, there was no chance for the Vertigo's to keep up at this track.

Nice work by the majority of the GT1's although there's a couple of you guys that are still being a bit overly aggressive Angry

Thanks to the Masters for turning up in the GT3's Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2007, 11:00:26 PM +0100 »

Reasonably quiet race for me with no on-track action at all, other than the first few laps chasing the guys just ahead. I ran wide on turn 4 with cold brakes and that allowed Picnic to steal through and take 3rd from me. Stayed on his heels for a few laps but then stupidly outbraked myself up at Parabolica interior and he gained a 7 second gap over me.
I then had no one near me for the majority of the race whilst i ran a lonely 4th. After my stop i came out 14 secs behind the guy in front and finished the race about 3.5 seconds behind Kerr, finishing 4th.
I should be happy with that but felt i had a podium chance tonight but 2 or 3 silly little errors running slightly wide and some traffic hold ups cost me the 3rd place.
Backmarkers were (mostly) very good in feathering off and moving aside whereas a few obstinately stayed where they were costing valuable seconds through the complexes, but not easy to get off line in some parts of this track and everyone is having their own race.

Congrats to the podium guys in all classes  Cool
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« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2007, 11:06:48 PM +0100 »

 Nice race  Smiley

 The first part was really difficult with Munkez always close ( grate drive mate).
 In the second part I was trying to keep my self focus and trying to get close to Munkez, for a final     but some how he had a spin in turn one and I found my self in the First place  

  
 Congrats to Backo and Paul968

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« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2007, 11:15:20 PM +0100 »

Nice race  Smiley

 The first part was really difficult with Munkez always close ( grate drive mate).
 In the second part I was trying to keep my self focus and trying to get close to Munkez, for a final     but some how he had a spin in turn one and I found my self in the First place 

 
 Congrats to Backo and Paul968

 Cheers

Yeah, was great fun, thought i was a little quicker through all the bends just couldn't get a run on you on the straights.... did try to go round the outside of you through parabolica interior Shocked which even had me worried, but just couldn't get the grip! new it would all come down to the all important pitstop Tongue
A little disappointed to have spun the way i did in curva 1, but hey live and learn i suppose, good drive and congrats on the win!
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« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2007, 12:51:43 AM +0100 »

I really enjoyed race in Estoril,I love this track.Qualification. and race I made without big  mistakes , pole position  in qualification.  Shocked surprised  ,wasn't my best time at all!, and then I took the race easy ,I was expecting from Kerr very close racing but I won from start to finish!!! Shocked.Such a shame that I won't be available  for next races,because I'm going on holiday for two weeks.Thx for nice race and Siya soon on tracks!!! Grin
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« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2007, 08:37:04 AM +0100 »

Nice battle with PR up to 1st stop, I see more of you than my Mrs at the moment Wink. Afterwards my pedals starting playing up, with the accelerator stuck on in the braking zones Roll Eyes. After three run offs decided to call it a day as I was a danger to anyone close. Shame.

Sorry to Adam for tap early on, I did wait for you and I dont think you lost to much time.
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« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2007, 09:11:23 AM +0100 »



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« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2007, 09:24:29 AM +0100 »

Sorry to Adam for tap early on, I did wait for you and I dont think you lost to much time.

No probs, wasn't the biggest of impacts, just pushed me wide.  Took my time and made sure the damage wasn't repaired when I pitted .....  so the stop took a little longer than I wanted, but 6.5secs isn't too bad!  Gotta love the Vertigo for being able to get away with that (when you're not oggling the pit girls - Nick Wink Grin).
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« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2007, 09:27:24 AM +0100 »

Small damage is repaired while the tyres are changed, so if there is only a few sec of damage, it's a good thing to repair it, as it will be done beofre the tyres are done and aero damage can cost you alot in the long run.
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