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May 20, 2007, 09:01:48 PM +0100 - Dubai (GP) - UKGTR Season 5 Endurance Clubmen
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Ballast
BACKO
 Racin24-7
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#990037) GT1 1 1:51.789
107.108mph
1 1:21:01.981
100.970mph
41 1:52.857
106.094mph
Michelin +25.0kg
Jure
 Racin24-7
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#990037) GT1 3 +0.413
106.714mph
2 +5.685
100.852mph
41 1:53.661
105.344mph
Michelin +25.0kg
Kerr
 Team Shark Junior
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#980003) GT1 2 +0.165
106.950mph
3 +20.068
100.555mph
41 1:53.445
105.545mph
Michelin +13.0kg
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Maserati MC12 (#950008) GT1 4 +0.595
106.541mph
4 +30.919
100.332mph
41 1:53.921
105.104mph
Pirelli -20.0kg
picnic
 Team Shark
Maserati MC12 (#870001) GT1 5 +1.208
105.963mph
5 +54.214
99.856mph
41 1:54.535
104.540mph
Pirelli -20.0kg
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Chevrolet Corvette C5-R (#910001) GT1 6 +1.711
105.493mph
6 +1:09.081
99.555mph
41 1:54.995
104.122mph
Michelin -15.0kg
Adam Parle
 Legends Racing
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#940008) GTC 7 +9.619
98.622mph
7 +2L
93.814mph
39 2:03.556
96.907mph
Dunlop -25.0kg
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#990013) GTC 10 +10.231
98.127mph
8 +3L
92.928mph
38 2:03.382
97.044mph
Dunlop -25.0kg
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Dodge Viper Competition Coupé (#4115) GT3 9 +1.175
92.906mph
38 2:02.972
97.368mph
Dunlop -10.0kg
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Dodge Viper Competition Coupé (#4115) GT3 13 +11.564
97.067mph
10 +9.195
92.754mph
38 2:03.384
97.043mph
Dunlop -10.0kg
mo
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 996 GT3 Cup (#4123) GT3 16 +12.422
96.396mph
11 +13.609
92.671mph
38 2:04.648
96.058mph
Pirelli +10.0kg
Munkez
 
Ferrari 360 GTC (#4087) GT2 15 +12.280
96.507mph
12 +18.894
92.571mph
38 2:02.732
97.558mph
Pirelli -10.0kg
Truetom
 Legends Racing
Porsche 996 GT3 Cup (#4121) GT3 14 +12.117
96.634mph
13 +38.282
92.207mph
38 2:04.977
95.806mph
Pirelli +10.0kg
Nevski
 Team Oldie Racing
Dodge Viper Competition Coupé (#4115) GT3 11 +10.270
98.096mph
14 +1:19.901
91.436mph
38 2:02.551
97.702mph
Dunlop -10.0kg
Eddie Meyer
 Kerb Crawlers
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#990013) GTC 12 +11.335
97.247mph
15 +1:28.271
91.283mph
38 2:04.989
95.796mph
Dunlop -25.0kg
silver53
 Team Shark
Mosler MT900R (#880001) GTC 18 +14.596
94.738mph
16 +4L
89.156mph
37 2:05.991
95.035mph
Dunlop +20.0kg
EdamSpeed
 Kerb Crawlers
BMW Z3M (#3115) GT3 19 +17.706
92.463mph
17 +5L
88.376mph
36 2:08.951
92.853mph
Dunlop  
psuedo
 Team Pseudo Racing
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#4101) GTC 17 +12.775
96.123mph
18 +10.646
88.183mph
36 2:04.778
95.958mph
Dunlop -25.0kg
Splintheter
 
BMW M3 GTR (#4143) GT2 8 +9.656
98.592mph
19 +10L 31 2:02.371
97.846mph
unknown
Michelin +25.0kg
Darren Seal
 Legends Racing
Porsche 996 GT3 Cup (#4111) GT3 20 +30L 11 2:06.401
94.726mph
unknown
Pirelli +10.0kg
pribeiro
 
Porsche 996 GT2 Bi-turbo (#3102) GT2 9 +9.820
98.459mph
Excluded +2L
93.833mph
39 2:02.051
98.102mph
Pirelli +15.0kg

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Just one amendment to the result, which is to exclude a non-scoring driver accidently driving a scoring car.
Details of car choices for full time Masters drivers driving in the Clubman events, or vice versa, are given in the race announcement posts.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR2
GT3
2:02.059
98.096mph
Nevski
Qualifying
Dodge Viper Competition Coupé
-10.0kg
May 20, 2007, 09:01:48 PM +0100
U5Ec
GTR2
GT3
2:02.551
97.702mph
Nevski
Race
Dodge Viper Competition Coupé
-10.0kg
May 20, 2007, 09:01:48 PM +0100
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« Reply #60 on: May 20, 2007, 11:31:05 PM +0100 »

Be honest I'm so happy!!! :)I didn't expected race like that  after my 2 weeks holiday in Slovakia.I'm still shocked Shocked.I did some laps today for set up my F550 and that was everthing,before I've been racing this track only ones with porsche.I love dubai so much and I really enjoyed race!!! ;DWhat can I say?Qualification frist and race frist as well !!!Thank you everyone for nice race and thanks slower cars  let me overtaked them easy.Now I'm looking forward for next race!!!Siya on track!!! Wink
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« Reply #61 on: May 20, 2007, 11:35:23 PM +0100 »

pribeiro arent you a full time masters driver ?? Huh

Yes, i am. Smiley
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« Reply #62 on: May 20, 2007, 11:41:40 PM +0100 »

Jeeeeeeeez, i should pick a G2 or GT3 car  Angry
Well, think i wasnt there Cool, no points for me Lips Sealed
But, still, i had a great fun, thanks all for the fair driving.
To the new driver, thanks also, good behavior on track, cheers Psuedo. Smiley

Please remove my points (again), i think its the 2nd mistake i do with
the car choice Embarrassed Roll Eyes

Congrats backo. well done all.

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« Reply #63 on: May 21, 2007, 12:19:43 AM +0100 »

Hi I think that mosler likes tyres for its tea I thought I had hard ones on it but they were only on the back and I ripped up the fronts ended up in the barriers with a burst but was near pits so got it fixed but ended up having to run with loads of rear brake which I do not like. Sorry to those Iwas not able    to let cleanly through in the braking areas as I was having a job to stop it spinning.cheers gerald
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« Reply #64 on: May 21, 2007, 07:30:32 AM +0100 »

Jeeeeeeeez, i should pick a G2 or GT3 car  Angry

laugh Wrong bi-turbo. Roll Eyes Tongue
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« Reply #65 on: May 21, 2007, 07:33:51 AM +0100 »

Hi I think that mosler likes tyres for its tea I thought I had hard ones on it but they were only on the back and I ripped up the fronts

I tried Medium rears and Soft fronts on the Vette during qualifying but the fronts just wear at twice the rate and I ended up with a car badly out of balance after a few laps so I raced on Hards at both ends.

No idea what to do for the next race. If I'm slow because I'm in the Corvette, will switching to another car just make me slower because of the lack of track time? If it's just me, switching will certainly slow me down. Huh
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« Reply #66 on: May 21, 2007, 08:44:24 AM +0100 »

However, the car was a bit of a handful on full tanks and hard tyres, and within a couple of laps Simon was all over the back of me, like a shark chasing an old bloke. In fact, he caught me so fast I was wondering whether it was Simon or Ruskus at the time  Huh

I was wondering what had happened to you Nev. You were 1.5 seconds faster than me in qually and ok I could have gone a little bit faster, but come the race and I was all over you in the first part until my tyres melted into the tarmac and we came about even.

I had chosen medium fronts and hard rears and that was good for the balance but after about 20 minutes of each session the wear was about 15 and temperatures constantly in the red on the left hand side. They went from "just about able to turn in" to "I'm going to have park the car backwards" into corners to get it to to turn in. Exits were fine as you could just use the throttle to turn it, but entry was horrible. At the end of each stint both left hand tyres were almost at 30 and the car was almost impossible to turn in. I wonder whether I should have put hards on the front. Undecided

Ended up having a great duel with Simon with never more than a second between us until he pitted just after half distance. I pitted from the lead of GT3 about 3 laps later but had another slow stop it seems - put about 18 litres too much fuel in and was slow restarting the engine. End result - I came out a good 10 seconds behind Simon and Ruskus.

Yes thanks for the battle, I really enjoyed it. Some great side by side action, even some whilst letting GT1s through. Quite scarey to be fighting for position and have to find room for 3 abreast round corners.

I started on 100 litres and filled up to 74 litres at the stop. I had 30 left at the pit stop, so added 44 in the stop and had about 7 left at the end of the race. Ruskus used about 20 litres more fuel than me in the first stint?! I don't aim to save that much but my driving style certainly sees me use less fuel than most.

Edit: make that the fastest lap in G3, not GT3. I had no idea there were two seperate classes there.  Huh

No me neither. I thought the Cup and Viper CC were in the same class, they should be. Shame to see no championship for the G3/GT3 cars either as I thought there would be one, but I guess that means we can chop and change cars whenever and just race for race results rather than points.

Certainly the Viper CC peed all over the GT3 Cup here at Dubai as it would at Monza and Enna, but the no ability to change gear ratios, eating tyres and fuel like a GT1 car and it's inability to turn into corners the Cup would be faster at twisty stuff for sure.

No idea what to do for the next race. If I'm slow because I'm in the Corvette, will switching to another car just make me slower because of the lack of track time? If it's just me, switching will certainly slow me down. Huh

The Corvette is the slowest car so it's partly the car. You were not that far behind Picnic in qualifying considering he was in an MC12 and you were in the Vette. If you want to try and different car try the Lambo it's sooo much fun to drive, or maybe the Saleen as something fast and relatively easy to drive.
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« Reply #67 on: May 21, 2007, 08:53:13 AM +0100 »

I'm really sorry I missed this one, I was chomping at the bit to get back behind the wheel after the race got delayed but my internet connection was down all day yesterday so I missed out Angry

Congrats to Adam on the win, nice drive mate  thumbup1
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« Reply #68 on: May 21, 2007, 08:56:45 AM +0100 »

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« Reply #69 on: May 21, 2007, 09:15:47 AM +0100 »

Right. Was waiting for lapchart before posting race analysis, but hey...  Grin

It seems hot conditions caught us all unprepared... Opted for soft-soft in quali1 (which turned out to be my only relevant time due to horrific traffic in Q2), then chose medium-hard for the race, 100L on board, using this setup http://freeweb.siol.net/rbedenk1/dub550w8RChotmedhard.rar (in case any F550 masters need it  Grin ).

P3 on the grid, had a brainfart passing start/finish line (don't ask, was reading text on Kerr's Lambo  Roll Eyes ) and released pitlane limiter waaay too late which robbed me of any chance of challenging Kerr into T1.

It seems Jonzo thought Kerr was in F550 and myself in Lambo. Wroooong, vice versa mate Wink  Tongue Anyway, the three of us had a great fight throughout the race (BACKO has fallen into his typical lone ranger goes banzai role in front), thoroughly enjoyed it. After Kerr and Jonzo had a little get together (was running in P4 at the time because I knew guys in front of me had much worse tyres situtation and I could easily match their pace, hence taking it easy and wait for the inevitable Kerr-Jonzo ballet) I've squeezed by only to had a near-spin since I wanted to create some time cushion (Kerr was obviously in deeeeep s**t as per tyres go while Jonzo was unable to pass Lambo on the straights. MC12 neeeeeeeds that top speed. Desperately. Was expecting Kerr's tyre problems in 2nd stint as well and was right.). After near-spin I fell back to P4 which created some problems and lost me any chance of winning the race since both Jonzo and I were stuck (again) behind Brian while BACKO was building up a gap (although I think he had few terrible laps before the pits).

When BACKO pitted I had a 1 minute 21 seconds lead which gave me a huge grin on my face (I knew pitstop will rob me of some 75 seconds, no more), but then I went into mad scientist mode (experiment failed). Lost 3-4 seconds per lap in last 3 laps of first stint (traffic and worn tyres, should have pitted lap after BACKO did) AND I chose medium-medium tyres. Madness. Not only the nature of the car changed (most practice done on med-med but at different tyre pressue and track temps, I was an idiot, took me good 10 laps to adapt to med-hard in first stint anyway, then went back to adapt to med-med again, moron!!!) so I had to take it easy and I also had a problem with rear tyres temperature. I could do low 1.54s but no more or my rears would go berserk (and even at that pace rears were running at 100+ degrees), hence chasing BACKO was out of the question. Keeping the distance at some 6 seconds - yes, catching up - no. Pity, medium-hard enabled me to go below 1.54 easily, would have been awesome racing in last few laps. Perhaps next time.

Anyway, with Brian close on my tail I stuck my head down, kept the pace and rhythm (knew his tyres were no good after 8-9 laps or so) and voila, P2. Not bad. Could be better (perfect race execution would give me a victory with some 15 seconds to spare IMHO), could be worse (but still, am getting annoyed with this P2 subscription of mine Grin Roll Eyes )

Had few scary moments with backmarkers (no one's fault really, almost collected a Gillette at one time, he stayed off line at the back straight (letting Kerr and Jonzo by) only to swerve back to racing line at braking point... scary stuff since I was already there, a pure miracle I've missed him, tyres on the grass and everything  Grin. Mental note: flash headlights while getting on their tail and not to say "thank you" after the pass  Grin Roll Eyes)

Half way through the championship the race is on. BACKO gained consistency and is now an official Championship contender (10 points P1-P3 is nothing), Brian and I are both in "I hope he cocks up this time" mode or we'll be going into last race with Finish puukko knifes between our teeth.   Grin

Thanks to all Vertigo/Viper drivers, you guys gave me some thoroughly enjoyable moments watching your racing before catching you up. Cool stuff. Wink  Cool

Thanks for the race gents. We rule.  Grin
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« Reply #70 on: May 21, 2007, 09:30:17 AM +0100 »



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« Reply #71 on: May 21, 2007, 09:34:09 AM +0100 »

Lapchart only can become available when replay is posted, so I had to wait  Smiley.

I now see that you "only" won 4s in the pits Simon. I had 19L left when I pitted in (started with 100 as well) and filled it up to 80L and I finished with 6 left or something. So indeed my drivingstyle is a bit harder on fuel, but what use is fuel after the finish, let it burn  devil.

The C5R is by far not the slowest GT1 car. Especially for endurance events it's pretty good. It has proven it's worth at Simracing.nl where it even won a race and always was near or in the top 5. Without the ballast pack, the Viper, Lister and Mc12 are worst.

I was also surprised to see a GT3 and G3 class.

Grats to the winners, well done, good times!
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« Reply #72 on: May 21, 2007, 10:34:49 AM +0100 »

"Interesting" race for me!

I managed to get a grand total of 15 minutes of practice at this track, so I at least knew where some of the corners were! Took probably the slowest car overall here - the BMW Z. It was a last minute choice, as foolishly I had been practicing with the Saleen, thinking it was the masters' race this week Grin Shocked

So, got a setup that I could drive, and just trundled around. Sorry if I got in anyone's way - was trying my hardest to move offline, but sometimes the GT1 cars came up so fast, and in tricky areas (like turns 2-5 where you're weaving around a lot), it was difficult, and I admit to throwing myself off track just to get out of the way!

I noticed the BMW Z was quite easy on tyres and fuel, so I just stuck a load of fuel in and medium tyres, and it lasted the WHOLE race Smiley Made up a couple of places due to that.

Had a little dice with Pseuueuedo - nice driving mate, hope I didn't hold you up too much or you got frustrated  Smiley
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« Reply #73 on: May 21, 2007, 11:55:39 AM +0100 »

I admit to throwing myself off track just to get out of the way!

I did notice your propensity towards exploring the run off areas. laugh

I noticed the BMW Z was quite easy on tyres and fuel, so I just stuck a load of fuel in and medium tyres, and it lasted the WHOLE race Smiley Made up a couple of places due to that.

You mean you didn't make your mandatory stop? Shocked
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« Reply #74 on: May 21, 2007, 01:17:42 PM +0100 »

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D'oh !....busted Edam  Roll Eyes Grin
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