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SimRacing.org.uk > UKGTR > UKGTR Races > Topic: GT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 1, Barcelona - July 13
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  • GT Sprint - S1 R1 - Barcelona: July 13, 2005
July 13, 2005, 09:22:16 PM +0100 - Barcelona (GP) - UKGTR GTR1 Sprint Season 1 GT
Driver
 Team		 Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Mark Harrison
 Kerb Crawlers		 Lister Storm GT1 1 1:38.011
107.705mph		 1 31:04.640
101.903mph		 18 1:39.989
105.574mph
Dunlop  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark		 Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT GT1 3 +1.046
106.567mph		 2 +8.945
101.416mph		 18 1:40.312
105.234mph
Michelin  
locutos ukgtr
 DM Racing		 Lister Storm GT1 5 +1.285
106.311mph		 3 +14.141
101.136mph		 18 1:39.956
105.609mph
Dunlop  
JonM_uk
 Ze insane Penguins		 Lister Storm GT1 9 +1.765
105.799mph		 4 +24.876
100.561mph		 18 1:40.235
105.315mph
Dunlop  
Paul968
 Kerb Crawlers		 Lister Storm GT1 4 +1.278
106.318mph		 5 +28.925
100.346mph		 18 1:39.716
105.863mph
Dunlop  
Luis Branco
 Team Shark		 Saleen S7-R GT1 7 +1.364
106.226mph		 6 +32.242
100.171mph		 18 1:39.706
105.874mph
Dunlop  
greg130
 28CD Motorsports		 Saleen S7-R GT1 8 +1.518
106.062mph		 7 +38.057
99.865mph		 18 1:41.392
104.113mph
Dunlop  
Smoothy
 Team Shark		 Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 14 +3.595
103.894mph		 8 +58.955
98.780mph		 18 1:42.344
103.145mph
Michelin  
FlyBri
 		 Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 10 +2.318
105.216mph		 9 +1:25.506
97.435mph		 18 1:43.689
101.807mph
Michelin  
Glide
 		 Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT GT1 15 +3.708
103.778mph		 10 +1L
95.686mph		 17 1:42.410
103.078mph
Michelin  
cb95amc
 		 Lister Storm GT1 11 +2.694
104.823mph		 11 +2.440
95.562mph		 17 1:43.078
102.410mph
Dunlop  
harv_gtr
 		 Chevrolet Corvette C5-R GT1 16 +3.914
103.569mph		 12 +9.107
95.224mph		 17 1:43.276
102.214mph
Dunlop  
CP
 		 Ferrari 575 GTC GT1 18 +5.148
102.330mph		 13 +13.084
95.024mph		 17 1:43.016
102.472mph
Pirelli  
[ZiP]Tyf
 Ze insane Penguins		 Ferrari 575 GTC GT1 20 +7.274
100.263mph		 14 +24.778
94.439mph		 17 1:42.986
102.502mph
Pirelli  
Jamera
 Kerb Crawlers		 Saleen S7-R GT1 21 +7.664
99.893mph		 15 (+3) +29.606
94.199mph		 17 1:44.583
100.936mph
Dunlop  
fozzmeister
 The Crafty Butchers		 Ferrari 575 GTC GT1 19 +5.159
102.319mph		 16 +1:09.552
92.265mph		 17 1:43.233
102.256mph
Pirelli  
bernie_eccle
 		 Lister Storm GT1 17 +4.566
102.910mph		 17 +2L 16 1:44.469
101.047mph		 suspension
Dunlop  
RIKBRIANT
 		 Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 22 +7.995
99.581mph		 18 +11L 7 1:47.125
98.541mph		 unknown
Michelin  
Aagramn
 Team Shark		 Lister Storm GT1 6 +1.303
106.292mph		 19 +13L 5 1:43.599
101.895mph		 unknown
Dunlop  
slimey
 Team Shark		 Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 23 +8.980
98.665mph		 20 5 1:47.468
98.227mph		 unknown
Pirelli  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers		 Lister Storm GT1 12 +2.874
104.636mph		 21 +14L 4 1:44.107
101.398mph		 unknown
Dunlop  
sho ryu ken
 		 Saleen S7-R GT1 2 +0.986
106.632mph		 22 +17L 1 2:29.583
70.571mph		 unknown
Dunlop  
Woodee
 		 Saleen S7-R GT1 24 +9.046
98.604mph		 23 1 2:45.220
63.892mph		 unknown
Dunlop  
mclaessen
 Speedworx		 Saleen S7-R GT1 13 +2.980
104.527mph		 +18L 0 ---
---		 unknown
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 225s

Fozz runs a little wide in Renault and [Zip]Tyf passes him, but Zip brakes a little too late for Repsol, especially considering the traffic ahead, and locks up, somehow avoiding Bernie Eccle and Colin P and winding up on the outside of the corner. Colin tries to duck to the inside to avoiding running into the back of Zip, but makes side contact with Fozz, who continues undamaged. Finally, Fozz begins to move up the inside of Zip, who pulls across to the right to get off the dirty side of the track, clipping the front of Fozz's car, which isn't holding a tight line, and spinning out.

[ZiP]Tyf is the prime cause of the chain of events, but as far as I can tell, simply missed his braking point. All three drivers could have exercised more caution, as this was only the first lap.

  • Racing incident

Server replay time: 390s

Fozz overtakes Jamera into La Caixa. In common with most drivers, Fozz takes a wide line through La Caixa to get a good run out towards Banc Sabadell, but Jamera sticks his nose in the gap and Fozz spins as he moves back across at the exit.

Jamera did not submit an incident report, but from the replay it would appear that he probably thought Fozz had run a little wide, however, the corner is clearly a double apex left and he should have expected Fozz to cut back across again.

  • Jamera — warning — contact with Fozzmeister

Server replay time: 460s

Bernie Eccle has gone wide at Seat and is rejoining. FlyBri makes very light contact with him despite having a clear view ahead. [ZiP]Tyf also charges in despite having a good view of what was going on and nearly runs into the back of Bernie.

Just because a driver is rejoining, you do not have carte blanche to simply charge past them. As long as they are rejoining with due care, an approacing car has to take some responsibility for getting past safely.

  • FlyBri — caution — exercise caution when approaching rejoining cars
  • [ZiP]Tyf ([ZIP]TYF) — caution — exercise caution when approaching rejoining cars

Server replay time: 1250s

Glide has gone off at Banc Sabadell and Jamera spins in sympathy. Instead of waiting for the three cars behind him to pass he moves off immediately, collecting Fozz who spins.

If a driver spins or goes off, it is their responsibility to rejoin the race safely. That means stopping, looking around, and rejoining only when all reasonable steps have been taken to ensure that they aren't going to take an innocent driver with them.

It's not clear from the replay whether Jamera applied throttle to move off after the spin or simply released the brake, but the old adage "when you spin, both feet in" should really be followed by "and don't take them off again until you know it's safe to".

  • Jamera — penalty — dangerous rejoin — 3 places lost

Server replay time: 1730s

Mark Harrison runs into the back of [ZiP]Tyf in Repsol, launching him into the air.

It would appear that Mark couldn't actually see Zip's car. Gerald reported he was having the same problem.

  • Mark Harrison — advice — make sure you've got at least 24 cars visible in your settings

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« Reply #45 on: July 14, 2005, 04:57:04 PM +0100 »
Quote from: Paul968 on July 14, 2005, 11:12:41 AM +0100
One comment about the race - I was a bit confused by Rik Briant when we lapped him - he let Simon by straight away but then made me wait several corners, which cost quite a bit of time, something you don't have in a sprint race. Not sure it made any difference except that it took 2 more laps to catch Simon again. Rik didn't do anyting clearly against the rules, but if lapping drivers are not given reasonably even treatment it can really affect the result of a close race. As it turned out, by making me wait the cars behind me all bunched up and Rik lost out in the melee at la Caixa.

I've split the discussion which resulted from this into it's own thread.
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« Reply #46 on: July 14, 2005, 05:09:38 PM +0100 »
i went on at 8 & stayed on till just after 9 & couldnt see any UKGTR server. in fact the lobby looked really quiet, no 10tcle servers or anything. i was definitley in the main lobby, tried reconnecting a few times but no joy. i'm not registered with racemore - i dont need to, do i?

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« Reply #47 on: July 14, 2005, 05:12:02 PM +0100 »
Quote from: Bombdogs on July 14, 2005, 05:09:38 PM +0100
i went on at 8 & stayed on till just after 9 & couldnt see any UKGTR server. in fact the lobby looked really quiet, no 10tcle servers or anything. i was definitley in the main lobby, tried reconnecting a few times but no joy. i'm not registered with racemore - i dont need to, do i?

Don't think so. Truetom had a problem too so perhaps there's was a blip in the lobby servers which didn't affect anyone. Unfortunately this is the sort of problem we're going to have to live with unless SimBin do something radical to improve online play. Sad
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« Reply #48 on: July 14, 2005, 05:52:58 PM +0100 »
Hi All Me too  Sad could only see continental servers about 25% of the normal number?saw some peoples names in the lobby but gave up bye for now gerald
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« Reply #49 on: July 14, 2005, 06:48:41 PM +0100 »
I downloaded the replay of this race.When i watched it i noticed the cars were sort of hopping on the track??,when i went to tv view the cars have no wheels,any idea,s please.Checked other replays and they are fine Huh
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« Reply #50 on: July 14, 2005, 06:51:01 PM +0100 »
The server maybe doesn't store the replay at the same fidelity as a players PC.  The no-wheels thing is a feature of the non-DX server, don't worry about it.
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« Reply #51 on: July 14, 2005, 07:09:09 PM +0100 »
Quote from: Mike Wrightson on July 14, 2005, 06:51:01 PM +0100
The server maybe doesn't store the replay at the same fidelity as a players PC.  The no-wheels thing is a feature of the non-DX server, don't worry about it.


Lol, I got wheels just no bloody tyres  Smiley
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« Reply #52 on: July 14, 2005, 08:47:03 PM +0100 »
Quote from: Jamera on July 14, 2005, 07:09:09 PM +0100
Quote from: Mike Wrightson on July 14, 2005, 06:51:01 PM +0100
The server maybe doesn't store the replay at the same fidelity as a players PC.  The no-wheels thing is a feature of the non-DX server, don't worry about it.


Lol, I got wheels just no bloody tyres  Smiley

They aint wheels M8, They are brakes.
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« Reply #53 on: July 14, 2005, 10:07:35 PM +0100 »
Results are here: http://www.filsca.com/results,gt,1000253,1361,2632,220,0

Again, got a problem with an unregistered driver and seperate points for the G2 class. I'll update the results when we've got that sorted out.
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