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  • U5Ec Enna: June 10, 2007
June 10, 2007, 09:01:34 PM +0100 - Enna - UKGTR Season 5 Endurance Clubmen
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
BACKO
 Racin24-7
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#990037) GT1 1 1:29.074
124.731mph
1 1:11:18.509
114.257mph
44 1:30.937
122.175mph
Michelin +25.0kg
picnic
 Team Shark
Maserati MC12 (#870001) GT1 4 +4.815
118.334mph
2 +1L
111.157mph
43 1:34.732
117.281mph
Pirelli -20.0kg
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Chevrolet Corvette C5-R (#910001) GT1 3 +4.198
119.117mph
3 +2L
107.810mph
42 1:34.100
118.069mph
Michelin -15.0kg
Gomes Silva
 Sonic Racing Team
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#980031) GT2 9 +9.292
112.948mph
4 +3L
105.710mph
41 1:40.064
111.031mph
Michelin +20.0kg
LEUVEN
 Team Shark
Dodge Viper Competition Coupé (#4115) GT3 6 +8.198
114.218mph
5 +3.270
105.630mph
41 1:37.728
113.685mph
Dunlop +10.0kg
Reign Man
 Team Pseudo Racing
Dodge Viper Competition Coupé (#720052) GT3 12 +10.217
111.896mph
6 +20.661
105.206mph
41 1:40.054
111.043mph
Dunlop +10.0kg
popabawa
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Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#940008) GTC 16 +11.128
110.879mph
7 +58.101
104.304mph
41 1:41.985
108.940mph
Dunlop -25.0kg
Adam Parle
 Legends Racing
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#940008) GTC 18 +12.020
109.900mph
8 +4L
103.471mph
40 1:42.088
108.830mph
Dunlop -25.0kg
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Dodge Viper Competition Coupé (#4115) GT3 10 +9.687
112.496mph
9 +27.854
102.804mph
40 1:39.631
111.514mph
Dunlop +10.0kg
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#990013) GTC 15 +10.981
111.041mph
10 +5L
101.090mph
39 1:41.311
109.665mph
Dunlop -25.0kg
pribeiro
 
Porsche 996 GT3 Cup (#4124) GT3 23 +13.414
108.405mph
11 +6.869
100.928mph
39 1:43.577
107.266mph
Pirelli +10.0kg
Eddie Meyer
 Kerb Crawlers
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#990013) GTC 22 +12.854
109.001mph
12 +29.869
100.390mph
39 1:43.662
107.178mph
Dunlop -25.0kg
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Mosler MT900R (#880001) GTC 20 +12.535
109.343mph
13 +6L
97.629mph
38 1:42.234
108.675mph
Dunlop +20.0kg
purdie
 Racin24-7
Porsche 996 GT3 Cup (#4121) GT3 19 +12.176
109.731mph
14 +37.286
96.795mph
38 1:41.004
109.998mph
Pirelli +10.0kg
Jeffrey
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Dodge Viper Competition Coupé (#4115) GT3 7 +8.275
114.128mph
15 +10L 34 1:37.807
113.594mph
accident
Dunlop +10.0kg
Jure
 Racin24-7
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#990037) GT1 2 +1.051
123.276mph
16 (+2) +15L 29 1:32.555
120.039mph
unknown
Michelin +25.0kg
rufbtr
 Speedworx
Saleen S7-R (#4004) GT1 5 +6.338
116.445mph
17 +19L 25 1:34.841
117.146mph
accident
Pirelli +5.0kg
Munkez
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ferrari 360 GTC (#760052) GT2 13 +10.923
111.106mph
18 +21L 23 1:39.294
111.892mph
unknown
Pirelli -10.0kg
psuedo
 Team Pseudo Racing
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#770052) GTC 14 +10.944
111.083mph
19 +24L 20 1:41.428
109.538mph
accident
Dunlop -25.0kg
jan duijs
 
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#4099) GT2 8 +8.764
113.558mph
20 +30L 14 1:39.711
111.425mph
unknown
Michelin +20.0kg
Joss
 Team Shark
Dodge Viper Competition Coupé (#4115) GT3 11 +10.207
111.907mph
21 +32L 12 1:39.502
111.659mph
accident
Dunlop +10.0kg
lincescom
 Sonic Racing Team
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#980031) GT2 17 +11.547
110.417mph
22 +34L 10 1:41.070
109.926mph
unknown
Michelin +20.0kg
will16v
 
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#4088) GT2 24 +17.824
103.933mph
23 +36L 8 1:43.531
107.313mph
accident
Dunlop +20.0kg
Truetom
 Legends Racing
Porsche 996 GT3 Cup (#850008) GT3 21 +12.836
109.020mph
24 +43L 1 3:03.122
60.671mph
suspension
Pirelli +10.0kg

Moderator's Report

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The pacelap was very untidy at this event, eventually resulting in a pile up as the cars came onto the start finish straight to begin the race. Backo, who led the field around, set a very fast pace earlier in the lap but then slowed down almost to a complete stop in the final sector. This may have been to allow the cars behind to close up but it was not a wise plan.
Backo is first contacted by the unsuspecting Jure and then there is a lot of minor collisions behind as drivers try to avoid each others stopped cars.

The polesitter should aim for a pace lap speed of 120kmh on the straights, which is very important in multiclass racing to allow the slower classes to keep up.

  • BACKOcaution — excessive speed on the pace lap
  • BACKOwarning — failure to follow the start procedure rules


Server replay time: 376s

Jure is following Dave Gymer down the back straight and is behind as they reach the braking zone. Dave brakes for the corner and Jure, who brakes relatively late, runs out of space and contacts Dave as he turns in for the chicane.
Dave had every right to take the corner and Jure did not get alonside before turn-in. Anyway this was not an ovetaking attempt - Jure did not move right until he realised he had nowhere to go - but Jure should have shown more caution on the first lap.
Normally first lap contact is a 3 place penalty but I'm reducing this because it was not an intentional overtaking move and Jure waited for Dave to continue.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR2
GT3
1:37.272
114.218mph
LEUVEN
Qualifying
Dodge Viper Competition Coupé
+10.0kg
June 10, 2007, 09:01:34 PM +0100
U5Ec
GTR2
GT3
1:37.728
113.685mph
LEUVEN
Race
Dodge Viper Competition Coupé
+10.0kg
June 10, 2007, 09:01:34 PM +0100
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« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2007, 06:16:25 PM +0100 »

I've always quite enjoyed Enna. If you survive the first couple of chaotic laps it's a real test of concentration.

That said, I've not practiced as much as much as I'd like so I'm hoping I want be too far off the pace.
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« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2007, 06:40:05 PM +0100 »

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By 'clear violation' we don't mean touching the gravel - we mean driving straight through without any attempt to follow the course of the chicane.

Ok, sorry to be a pest but I could do with a little clarification here if possible. (not questioning the rules or the implimentation of them.....just so I know which lines I can take and which would be taboo Grin)

As an exapmle, the final two turns before the s/f straight at Enna have small areas of 'grasscrete'. Would we be penalised if regularly putting two wheels over this area?
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« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2007, 06:46:18 PM +0100 »

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By 'clear violation' we don't mean touching the gravel - we mean driving straight through without any attempt to follow the course of the chicane.

As an exapmle, the final two turns before the s/f straight at Enna have small areas of 'grasscrete'. Would we be penalised if regularly putting two wheels over this area?

For the lefthander your right tires should be on the curb maximum. The inside wheels (in this case) can be on the grasscrete. Atleast, this is what the rules allow.
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« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2007, 06:50:51 PM +0100 »

Thanks ruskus.....time to go and learn the track again.....no wonder
i'm slow........ Huh
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« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2007, 07:06:43 PM +0100 »


For the lefthander your right tires should be on the curb maximum. The inside wheels (in this case) can be on the grasscrete. Atleast, this is what the rules allow.

Actually that's not what the rules say, they say
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Each driver should endeavour to keep the full width of all their vehicle's wheels within the boundaries of the track at all times.
The track is defined as the normal road surface, which at most tracks is definied by white lines at the edge of the road, plus any painted curbs. Areas of grass, gravel, sand, and areas painted green (including so called 'grasscrete'), are not part of the track.

.....so both the inside wheels can be on kerb at max, but not inside it on the grasscrete.
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« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2007, 07:12:26 PM +0100 »

As an exapmle, the final two turns before the s/f straight at Enna have small areas of 'grasscrete'. Would we be penalised if regularly putting two wheels over this area?
For the lefthander your right tires should be on the curb maximum. The inside wheels (in this case) can be on the grasscrete. Atleast, this is what the rules allow.

As I've already said, the moderators are very unlikely to take action over discreet use of the grasscrete type area.
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« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2007, 07:13:00 PM +0100 »

Hmm, than they must have changed, and in that case, the rules get broken all the time.

As far as I knew, the rules used to say, always 2 wheels on the track.

Edit: saw Dave's post, so don't quote me  Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2007, 07:15:10 PM +0100 »

Please stop quoting selected parts of the rules. GTR2 will be relied on to enforce the cutting except where it fails to detect completing bypassing a chicane or driving completely off the track at a corner. I don't believe that there is anywhere at Enna where you can get away with that.
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« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2007, 08:39:29 PM +0100 »

I think I might like to join this race in The ViperCC. Are there normally spots free?, and would anyone mind if I did so?
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« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2007, 09:32:35 PM +0100 »

Are there normally spots free?,

Yes, usually there are several.

and would anyone mind if I did so?

Not me. The more ViperCC's the better  Grin
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« Reply #25 on: June 08, 2007, 11:03:39 PM +0100 »

If I'm not playing Snooker, I may join you in the Vipers of dooooom Grin

First chicane...Turn!! TURRNNNNNNN!!!  death
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« Reply #26 on: June 09, 2007, 08:10:12 AM +0100 »

Well, I think I'm gonna intentionaly miss this track. I hope I can be excused after 5 seasons of joining every race I phisicaly could. Yes, I hate this track that much.  Sad

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« Reply #27 on: June 09, 2007, 08:29:39 AM +0100 »

wow...TT I get the impression you dont like this track much eh!....It would be a shame if your not in the lineup though....you would be missed.

I didn't like the track much either at first....but the more practice I put in the more it grew on me...and now I quite enjoy it....the Endurance is going to be a BIG challenge....to everyone....it will take good driving skills just to survive....I'm actually quite looking forward to it.  Shocked
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« Reply #28 on: June 09, 2007, 08:55:16 AM +0100 »

....it will take good driving skills just to survive....

And a pretty big dollop of luck that no-one wipes out in front of you! Cheesy
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« Reply #29 on: June 09, 2007, 09:20:41 AM +0100 »

 lol   not too bad in my case...I never seem to be close enough to anybody for that to worry me Grin
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