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January 30, 2023, 08:32:16 PM +0000 - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - UKGTL Season 23 1966 BSCC
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Daz9
 
Ford Falcon (#872) TC-65 D2 1 1:45.165
100.560mph
1 21:16.595
99.409mph
12 1:45.050
100.670mph
Dunlop  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Ford Falcon (#872) TC-65 D2 2 +1.760
98.905mph
2 +16.880
98.112mph
12 1:46.592
99.214mph
Dunlop  
seniordan
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Ford Falcon (#825) TC-65 D2 3 +1.838
98.833mph
3 +33.016
96.903mph
12 1:47.203
98.649mph
Dunlop  
MichaW
 
Lotus Cortina (#911) TC-65 D2 5 +3.252
97.544mph
4 +43.096
96.163mph
12 1:48.743
97.252mph
Dunlop  
PaulSS
 
Ford Falcon (#825) TC-65 D2 6 +3.690
97.152mph
5 +56.741
95.179mph
12 1:48.348
97.606mph
Dunlop  
Ziu Bacubacu
 
Austin Mini Cooper 970S (#138) TC-65 D1 9 +5.679
95.408mph
6 +1:13.276
94.013mph
12 1:50.851
95.402mph
Dunlop  
SpecialKS
 TEAM-GTLDK
Lotus Cortina (#902) TC-65 D2 7 +5.054
95.949mph
7 +1:14.834
93.904mph
12 1:49.379
96.686mph
Dunlop  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#590) TC-65 D2 4 +2.845
97.912mph
8 +1:22.208
93.395mph
12 1:48.450
97.514mph
Dunlop  
Erling G-P
 TEAM-GTLDK
Ford Anglia Super (#251) TC-65 D2 10 +5.973
95.156mph
9 +1:30.009
92.862mph
12 1:51.201
95.102mph
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Ford Anglia Super (#50) TC-65 D2 12 +7.326
94.011mph
10 +1:30.849
92.805mph
12 1:51.438
94.900mph
Dunlop  
Huggy
 
Ford Mustang (#892) TC-65 D2 11 +6.893
94.375mph
11 +1:32.088
92.721mph
12 1:50.876
95.381mph
Dunlop  
PaulV
 Blue Moose Racing
Ford Falcon (#872) TC-65 D2 8 +5.618
95.461mph
12 +1:35.613
92.482mph
12 1:50.782
95.462mph
Dunlop  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ford Anglia Super (#251) TC-65 D2 13 +7.773
93.639mph
13 +1:42.346
92.031mph
12 1:53.053
93.544mph
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Ford Anglia 105E (#71) TC-65 D2 15 +10.200
91.669mph
14 +1L
89.919mph
11 1:55.133
91.854mph
Dunlop  
Robby82
 Turbo Racing
Austin Mini Cooper 970S (#1) TC-65 D1 14 +9.670
92.092mph
15 +24.726
88.232mph
11 1:55.715
91.392mph
Dunlop  

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January 30, 2023, 09:22:17 PM +0000 - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - UKGTL Season 23 1966 BSCC
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Daz9
 
Alfa Romeo GTA (#956) TC-65 D2 1 1:45.669
100.081mph
1 21:27.010
98.605mph
12 1:45.605
100.141mph
Dunlop  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Ford Falcon (#872) TC-65 D2 2 +0.280
99.816mph
2 +7.831
98.008mph
12 1:46.479
99.319mph
Dunlop  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Lotus Cortina (#955) TC-65 D2 3 +0.946
99.193mph
3 +21.815
96.961mph
12 1:46.843
98.981mph
Dunlop  
SpecialKS
 TEAM-GTLDK
Ford Falcon (#872) TC-65 D2 4 +1.945
98.272mph
4 +27.713
96.526mph
12 1:47.928
97.986mph
Dunlop  
MichaW
 
Lotus Cortina (#911) TC-65 D2 5 +2.453
97.810mph
5 +34.382
96.039mph
12 1:48.261
97.685mph
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Ford Mustang (#893) TC-65 D2 6 +4.194
96.260mph
6 +45.476
95.239mph
12 1:49.666
96.433mph
Dunlop  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Lotus Cortina (#961) TC-65 D2 9 +5.150
95.430mph
7 +46.034
95.200mph
12 1:48.977
97.043mph
Dunlop  
PaulSS
 
Ford Falcon (#825) TC-65 D2 8 +1:05.826
93.807mph
12 1:48.427
97.535mph
Dunlop  
Huggy
 
Ford Mustang (#892) TC-65 D2 7 +4.538
95.960mph
9 +1:07.897
93.663mph
12 1:50.081
96.070mph
Dunlop  
Ziu Bacubacu
 
FIAT Abarth 1000TC (#450) TC-65 D1 8 +4.703
95.816mph
10 +1:11.359
93.425mph
12 1:50.620
95.601mph
Dunlop  
PaulV
 Blue Moose Racing
Ford Mustang (#897) TC-65 D2 11 +5.608
95.037mph
11 +1:12.091
93.374mph
12 1:50.075
96.075mph
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Hillman Imp (#33) TC-65 D1 12 +7.626
93.344mph
12 +1:35.784
91.774mph
12 1:53.458
93.210mph
Dunlop  
seniordan
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Hillman Imp (#33) TC-65 D1 13 +8.049
92.997mph
13 +1:40.058
91.492mph
12 1:53.642
93.059mph
Dunlop  
Erling G-P
 TEAM-GTLDK
Ford Anglia Super (#251) TC-65 D2 10 +5.348
95.260mph
14 +1:43.764
91.248mph
12 1:50.749
95.490mph
Dunlop  
Robby82
 Turbo Racing
Hillman Imp (#32) TC-65 D1 14 +13.559
88.699mph
15 +1L
84.379mph
11 1:58.112
89.537mph
Dunlop  

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« on: September 03, 2022, 12:38:49 PM +0100 »

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International Trophy Meeting - International Saloon Touring Car Races

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Track: '67 Silverstone (GP)

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RACE ONE
Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (10 mins) Drivers must not leave qualifying to change car make
Race: 20:30 (12 laps)

RACE TWO
Practice/Car change: ~21:00 (5 mins)
Qualifying: 21:05 (10 mins) Drivers must not leave qualifying to change car make
Race: 21:15 (12 laps)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2023, 12:51:07 AM +0000 »


Hi Tony,

For this race is it 67 Silverstone or 88 ??

ive got more than one silverstone  :-) Doh.
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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2023, 12:19:25 PM +0000 »

Race post says Silvy 67, so I guess it will be the same as the GPL version Paul.
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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2023, 03:15:14 PM +0000 »


Hi Tony,

For this race is it 67 Silverstone or 88 ??

ive got more than one silverstone  :-) Doh.
'67 version

(Like it says in the OP)
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« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2023, 05:20:38 PM +0000 »

Race post says Silvy 67, so I guess it will be the same as the GPL version Paul.

Ta mate.. I never even spotted that.  Great stuff. Cya tonight
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« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2023, 07:36:55 PM +0000 »

They are both default GTL cars aren't they?
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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2023, 07:45:28 PM +0000 »

Yes both standard GTL content, not in the download.
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« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2023, 10:27:06 PM +0000 »

Results and replays now posted.
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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2023, 09:51:41 AM +0000 »

Grats to the champagne guys from the back of the field.

Obviously, I never expected the slower class cars to challenge the American Muscle, but I was surprised at the huge difference in pace.

No complaints, as it will be the same for everyone, we all have to use the slower cars at some point. My cunning wild plan was to use the slower cars on this version of Silverstone because their lack of power means that carrying the speed through corners would be important and this circuit has a nice easy flow. Possibly a good plan, but I had not reckoned with just how much slower they would be lol.

First race I took the 997cc Anglia and after a few laps practice I realised that I could save some weight by throwing the whole braking system in the skip!! The only times that actually used the brakes was when a Mustang or Falcon baulked me into a corner and after I passed the chequered flag! For all corners I just had to drop a gear and throw the car into the apex, then stand on what was laughingly called the "accelerator" and wait for the next downshift.

The second race was a little more interesting in the Imp and I had Dan in a similar car and he is always dangerous. Ziu had taken the Abarth which would certainly be quicker, so a battle for second spot in class with Dan was on the cards.
There was a big meeting of the Paint Sample Swap Club on the first corner and The Wing Mirror Appreciation Society appeared to be convening on the next two apexes. Thus, I found myself amongst the Mustangs and Falcons and a couple of 1275cc Anglias and worried if they could even see me in the tiny Imp??
Once we got onto the Hangar straight normal service was resumed and power spread out the field. In all of the early mayhem I managed to steal a couple of seconds on Dan and that buffer was very welcome for the rest of the race as we were clearly very close on pace with the gap wavering up or down by a few tenths as we both made small errors. I was able to back off on the last 2 laps and cruise to the line for a second in class.

I have to confess that I was mightily impressed  in Race 1 quali by Tony's 1:52 lap in what appeared ( on my leaderboard anyway) to be a 997 Anglia when the best that I could wring out of it was a low 1:55!! Where was he gaining 3 secs when I was almost pedal to the metal for the whole lap??
Then an exchange in chat gave the game away and Tony was actually using the Anglia Super, it was just the display that showed his as an ordinary Anglebox, although other Anglia Supers were actually showing as Anglia Supers??
On to the next race Wink
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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2023, 11:43:52 AM +0000 »

IMPORTANT

Due to an admin glitch, the fastest lap points for these two races are now not showing. They will be re-instated before the next races in this series.

This is because, by adding the fastest laps after an event we disable the "Incident Report" text at the foot of the results table. This prevents an incident being reported.

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« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2023, 11:50:02 AM +0000 »

Then an exchange in chat gave the game away and Tony was actually using the Anglia Super, it was just the display that showed his as an ordinary Anglebox, although other Anglia Supers were actually showing as Anglia Supers??
This is very odd because for me the car I was using (red #50) was listed as 1966 Ford Anglia Super.

Possible cause would be that Clive has both the current and previously used Anglia's in his install and the previous one had preference in the listings over the current one.

The two classes of Ford Anglia used in this series have unique folders called '66 Ford Anglia and '66 Ford Anglia Super. Deleting any other Anglia folders would fix this anomaly.

(Except this is Clive we are talking about)
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« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2023, 04:02:17 PM +0000 »

Super: over and above : higher in quantity, quality, or degree than : more than

With the above definition of 'Super' in my mind, I spend the first race wondering how the Anglia Super had earned this designation, when Tony was outrunning me in a bog standard Anglia.  Like Clive I was also missing the Super designation on Tony's car - it showed up as 'Ford Anglia (BSCC)' in the driver's list, so I had 3 different Anglia variants showing. Like Tony suggests, I have all the previously used cars in the same installation, bar the ones specifically requiring separate installs, so by now it's a fair jumble and quite a challenge finding the right cars for these series.

Race 1 was quite lively.  I got a good launch off the grid....straight into the back of a non-moving Falcon  Roll Eyes  Killed all my momentum, but I still gained a little, treading through the mini-mayhem at T1/Copse.  Had Tony on my bumper, and me running a bit wide at Club, allowed him to nose ahead before Abbey, where I accidently nudged him out of shape. He recovered, but I lost places to Clive & Matt while waiting for him.  Wild chase on, in what I thought was a futile battle, believing us to be in different classes. My sights were solely on Matt up ahead, but to get at him, I had to fix the 'Tony-problem' first.  Behind me, a couple of heavy US irons were threatening, but thankfully the Anglia made a complete mockery of their braking and cornering, allowing me to stay ahead.

Tony & I both dispatched Clive, unsurprisingly given his slower Anglia. Had a couple of botched attempts on Tony, dropping back and having to claw back the lost territory.  Made a successful move on Matt into Copse and could continue the hunt for the fleet-footed Tony, who had also gotten past.  Finally got past him late in the race, now trying to escape Geoffers, whom I had suddenly realized was behind me - the earlier lost time would have been very welcome now, but nothing to do when he caught up and passed.

Race 2 I contemplated a car change, even with a mediocre result in the Mustang as the only prospect, as being the only driver in a class is a bit pathetic.  However, was distracted by some texts from a mate, having bought a real life Mustang (2020) funnily enough.  So never got round to it. Still absent minded on the grid, I forgot to press the clutch when engaging 1st, and sure enough, the car jumped.  False start S/G issued - after another great launch.....straight into the back of a Mustang  Roll Eyes   Served it after L1 and it pretty much ruined the race, as I was now playing catchup to the entire field, but silly thing was that it had no impact whatsoever on my result, being the only one in that class.

Grats to winners & pods in both races.
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« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2023, 06:08:18 PM +0000 »

Couple of quite fun races even though it is well known I dislike this version of the track.

First race I was amazed to qualify the Mini on the front row but predictably got a bit swamped at the start. At Copse Huggy's Mustang came in a bit hot & bumped me into a spin & as I sat waiting for the pack to pass Robby's Mini ran off track & hit me. Expected the car to be badly damaged but once I got going again it seemed fine & now it was a frantic chase to catch the 3 Anglias making up the rest of the 1300 class. I was 16s behind them at the end of lap 1 but knew I was a good couple of seconds a lap faster so a class win was still possible, only fly in the ointment being the Yank Tanks in between us which potentially could be difficult to pass. Fortunately neither Paul or Huggy made it difficult & I managed to catch & pass Erling & Tony with 2 laps left. Phew.

Went with the Cortina for race 2, but when Daz swapped to the Alfa I knew another class win would be unlikely. Daz was a second quicker in qually but a better start got me ahead on lap 1, but when I got a bit of oversteer at Club trying to cut inside Tony's Mustang Daz nipped past & repeated the move on Tony at Abbey. Took me another 5 laps to find a way past the Mustang by which time Kurt had got his Falcon past both of us & Micha was snapping at my heels. Once past I was able to lap faster & slowly reeled In Kurt & luckily didn't have as much of a problem getting past him. I would not have had the pace to stay with Daz & Fulvio anyway, so 3rd was the result my speed deserved.

Congrats to Daz on the race wins & to all class winners.  clap clap clap
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« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2023, 07:11:09 PM +0000 »

Then an exchange in chat gave the game away and Tony was actually using the Anglia Super, it was just the display that showed his as an ordinary Anglebox, although other Anglia Supers were actually showing as Anglia Supers??
This is very odd because for me the car I was using (red #50) was listed as 1966 Ford Anglia Super.

Possible cause would be that Clive has both the current and previously used Anglia's in his install and the previous one had preference in the listings over the current one.

The two classes of Ford Anglia used in this series have unique folders called '66 Ford Anglia and '66 Ford Anglia Super. Deleting any other Anglia folders would fix this anomaly.

(Except this is Clive we are talking about)
I have experienced the same thing as Clive. When I make an install I use a new folder, copy a previous GTL game, delete the relevant game data folders, and copy the folders from the zipped game data. That way I have only cars, locations, and sounds(usually don't erase) for that particular series. The TC Anglica is definitely faster than the GTC Super. This is strange to me. I think (always dangerous) the cars should be switched and renamed.
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« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2023, 07:34:09 PM +0000 »

Result_Race_1

Result_Race_2

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Great one again - best series together with last year's 1965 BSCC  Smiley - thanks Tony  thumbup1

I was a bit confused too concerning the Anglia, but I still use my 2021 GTL install (only another one for Nappe's NoGripLegacy series),
which may be the reason with lots of different Anglias installed. Normally I make a new install each year   Roll Eyes
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