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October 17, 2022, 10:07:43 PM +0100 - Charade (1958-1988) - UKGTL Legacy NoGrip Season 2022
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Daz9
 
Ford Escort TC (60s) (#17) GTC-TC-76 1 3:29.787
86.085mph
1 49:57.077
84.360mph
14 3:30.475
85.804mph
Dunlop  
MichaW
 
BMW 1600ti (#347) GTC-TC-76 2 +2.713
84.986mph
2 +12.267
84.016mph
14 3:31.874
85.237mph
Dunlop  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Austin Mini Cooper 1275 GT Gr.2 (#197) TC-65 D2 3 +4.271
84.367mph
3 +33.210
83.435mph
14 3:34.994
84.000mph
Avon  
Paddler
 
Alfa Romeo GTA Junior Gr.2 (#72) TC-65 D2 4 +4.893
84.123mph
4 +56.379
82.802mph
14 3:34.155
84.329mph
Firestone  
Nappe1
 Hans Laine Memorial Racing
Isuzu Bellett GTR (#15) GTC-TC-76 9 +13.114
81.020mph
5 +1:27.608
81.964mph
14 3:38.214
82.761mph
Avon  
Christian Dauger
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
BMW 1600ti (#361) GTC-TC-76 6 +10.819
81.863mph
6 +1:27.955
81.955mph
14 3:36.741
83.323mph
Dunlop  
nocatu
 
Ford Escort TC (60s) (#17) GTC-TC-76 5 +7.019
83.298mph
7 +1:37.314
81.707mph
14 3:35.820
83.679mph
Dunlop  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Alfa Romeo GTA Junior Gr.2 (#22) TC-65 D2 8 +12.489
81.248mph
8 +1:52.027
81.320mph
14 3:38.560
82.630mph
Firestone  
seniordan
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Alfa Romeo GTA Junior Gr.2 (#22) TC-65 D2 7 +12.197
81.355mph
9 +2:56.693
79.663mph
14 3:42.420
81.196mph
Firestone  
PaulSS
 
Ford Escort TC (60s) (#20) GTC-TC-76 10 +6L 8 3:42.441
81.188mph
unknown
Dunlop  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
BMW 1600ti (#7212) GTC-TC-76 10 +15.237
80.256mph
11 +11L 3 3:44.600
80.408mph
unknown
Dunlop  
SpecialKS
 TEAM-GTLDK
NSU 1200 TT (#174) TC-65 D2 12 +16.863
79.680mph
12 +13L 1 5:13.634
57.582mph
unknown
Avon  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Alfa Romeo GTA Junior Gr.2 (#72) TC-65 D2 11 +16.860
79.681mph
+14L 0 ---
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unknown
Firestone  
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GT Legends
TC-65 D2
3:34.058
84.367mph
Geoffers
Qualifying
Austin Mini Cooper 1275 GT Gr.2October 17, 2022, 10:07:43 PM +0100
LN2
GT Legends
TC-65 D2
3:34.155
84.329mph
Paddler
Race
Alfa Romeo GTA Junior Gr.2October 17, 2022, 10:07:43 PM +0100
LN2
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« on: October 16, 2022, 02:14:47 PM +0100 »

NoGrip Legacy HTC Championship 2022
Charade normal race
16th of October, 2022

Second to last event for the HTC Championship



Server & Car Pack Info
- Server Name: NG Legacy HTC Server
- Password: will be revealed in normal UKGTL fashion.
- Car pack version: 2.1


Race
Track: Circuit Clermont - Ferrand 1965
Track download: *DOWNLOAD*
Allowed Classes / Cars:

Division 2 classes.
  • 1000 - 1300cc.
    • 1970 Alfa-Romeo GTA Jnr
    • 1970 Mini 1275GT
    • 1970 Ford Escort 1300GT
    • 1970 NSU 1200TT
     
  • 1300 - 1600cc.
    • 1970 BMW 1600TI
    • 1970 Ford Escort TC
    • 1970 Isuzu Bellett GT-R
     



Qualifying:
20 minutes, starts at 19:45 BST.


Race: Length 14 laps, starts at approx. 20:05 BST.
Scoring:
  • Both classes score points separately. Winner of each class receives 9 points, 2nd in each class receives 8 points, then 7 points, 5 points and so on and so forth.
  • Overall winner of the race scores additional 1 point.
  • Start in a class where driver has not started yet in this season, scores automatically 4 additional points.


HTC Championship Links:
- Championship main thread, with calendar, cars, classes and other info: click here
- Drivers' Championship standings table: click here
- Teams' Championship standings table: click here
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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2022, 02:41:37 PM +0100 »

Are we using the full or light version?
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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2022, 06:56:39 PM +0100 »

Are we using the full or light version?

I did few tests and Full version seems to be working fine. I set up the server with the full version and if someone has troubles with it, We can still switch to Light version. Smiley


NoGrip Legacy HTC Server is now running with race password.
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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2022, 08:12:35 PM +0100 »

Went down a grass bank and could not recover to track so quit out. Shame, was going to be a good event.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2022, 09:13:51 PM +0100 »

Results are have been now posted.

- Drivers' Championship points are available on Server Stats: https://gtlserver.lintu.dyndns.org/ChampionshipPoints?champid=2&subchampid=0  (This link is permanent link to 2022 season Overall Championship, so you can bookmark it if you want.)
- Teams' Championship points are available here: https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=1781&theme=5


You can also download server replay and logfiles from Server Stats
https://gtlserver.lintu.dyndns.org/ResultsArchive?champid=2&eventid=4399&raceid=4399
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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2022, 09:41:35 PM +0100 »

Now that was probably the best race of the season for me.
I am ecstatic about how I was able to defend the overall 5th (3rd in a class) position with Bellett from Chris and his 1600TI and at the same time I am bit sad for Chris as you were clearly faster than me, but two unfortunate spins took the well built lead out of the window. However I did my personal best laps last 4 laps in a row, so The BMW grille looming in my rear view mirror was definitely part of the excellent result here.

I have raced here only once before and that ended up in some ravine in first lap, so I started very carefully in practice and qualify. Before the race I changed gearing just one click shorter and that changed responsiveness of the  car quite bit. In start I got a good start by such a margin that I was baffled a moment before realizing that I truly launched the car several positions (at least three?) up. I knew track being do or die while trying, so after start I concentrated making steady corner entries, corner after corner and not worrying too much about my position. Somewhere in lap 5 I think I saw Chris spinning in last corner and I did almost catch him there, but  I knew him being about 1.5 seconds faster per lap so He soon vanished to horizon. However in Lap 8 He was stands still in first hairpin when the up hill back to finish starts. In start of the lap nine, I had 8 seconds of lead and I was deadly sure that Chris would overtake me before the end, so I did not change a thing in my driving. However when we starting lap 11 and still had over 3 seconds of lead, I made decision try to defend my position or go to the ravine while trying. Next 4 laps I did my personal best laps and while Chris was reaching me, I had a bit over second lead when the final lap started and that was fast one. There was several places where I am not still sure how those can be driven flat out with Bellett, but somehow I did and survived to tell about it. Cheesy

In the end, Bellett was quite nice drive here as long as you played the weight transfer right, there was plenty of grip to drift around some of the corners. Of course the 4 speed gearbox was hindering in some places, forcing to scream the engine in red line in 2nd gear as the 3rd was too long and 2nd was too short, but during the race I found few places where I could use this as advantage by slingshot the car out of the corner by changing 3rd in correct moment.

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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2022, 09:10:02 AM +0100 »

Now that was probably the best race of the season for me.
I am ecstatic about how I was able to defend the overall 5th (3rd in a class) position with Bellett from Chris and his 1600TI and at the same time I am bit sad for Chris as you were clearly faster than me, but two unfortunate spins took the well built lead out of the window. However I did my personal best laps last 4 laps in a row, so The BMW grille looming in my rear view mirror was definitely part of the excellent result here.

I have raced here only once before and that ended up in some ravine in first lap, so I started very carefully in practice and qualify. Before the race I changed gearing just one click shorter and that changed responsiveness of the  car quite bit. In start I got a good start by such a margin that I was baffled a moment before realizing that I truly launched the car several positions (at least three?) up. I knew track being do or die while trying, so after start I concentrated making steady corner entries, corner after corner and not worrying too much about my position. Somewhere in lap 5 I think I saw Chris spinning in last corner and I did almost catch him there, but  I knew him being about 1.5 seconds faster per lap so He soon vanished to horizon. However in Lap 8 He was stands still in first hairpin when the up hill back to finish starts. In start of the lap nine, I had 8 seconds of lead and I was deadly sure that Chris would overtake me before the end, so I did not change a thing in my driving. However when we starting lap 11 and still had over 3 seconds of lead, I made decision try to defend my position or go to the ravine while trying. Next 4 laps I did my personal best laps and while Chris was reaching me, I had a bit over second lead when the final lap started and that was fast one. There was several places where I am not still sure how those can be driven flat out with Bellett, but somehow I did and survived to tell about it. Cheesy

In the end, Bellett was quite nice drive here as long as you played the weight transfer right, there was plenty of grip to drift around some of the corners. Of course the 4 speed gearbox was hindering in some places, forcing to scream the engine in red line in 2nd gear as the 3rd was too long and 2nd was too short, but during the race I found few places where I could use this as advantage by slingshot the car out of the corner by changing 3rd in correct moment.



Your 5th place was deserved ! I made 2 big mistakes that cost me 2 places, I should have been more careful and kept the 4th !
Even if I came back on you, the front tires were too hot to do better and at the end I couldn't have passed you, except maybe with a few more laps ! Wink
With a Daz or MichaW, it would have been different... laugh
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« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2022, 12:27:43 PM +0100 »

Now that was probably the best race of the season for me.
I am ecstatic about how I was able to defend the overall 5th (3rd in a class) position with Bellett from Chris and his 1600TI and at the same time I am bit sad for Chris as you were clearly faster than me, but two unfortunate spins took the well built lead out of the window. However I did my personal best laps last 4 laps in a row, so The BMW grille looming in my rear view mirror was definitely part of the excellent result here.

I have raced here only once before and that ended up in some ravine in first lap, so I started very carefully in practice and qualify. Before the race I changed gearing just one click shorter and that changed responsiveness of the  car quite bit. In start I got a good start by such a margin that I was baffled a moment before realizing that I truly launched the car several positions (at least three?) up. I knew track being do or die while trying, so after start I concentrated making steady corner entries, corner after corner and not worrying too much about my position. Somewhere in lap 5 I think I saw Chris spinning in last corner and I did almost catch him there, but  I knew him being about 1.5 seconds faster per lap so He soon vanished to horizon. However in Lap 8 He was stands still in first hairpin when the up hill back to finish starts. In start of the lap nine, I had 8 seconds of lead and I was deadly sure that Chris would overtake me before the end, so I did not change a thing in my driving. However when we starting lap 11 and still had over 3 seconds of lead, I made decision try to defend my position or go to the ravine while trying. Next 4 laps I did my personal best laps and while Chris was reaching me, I had a bit over second lead when the final lap started and that was fast one. There was several places where I am not still sure how those can be driven flat out with Bellett, but somehow I did and survived to tell about it. Cheesy

In the end, Bellett was quite nice drive here as long as you played the weight transfer right, there was plenty of grip to drift around some of the corners. Of course the 4 speed gearbox was hindering in some places, forcing to scream the engine in red line in 2nd gear as the 3rd was too long and 2nd was too short, but during the race I found few places where I could use this as advantage by slingshot the car out of the corner by changing 3rd in correct moment.



Your 5th place was deserved ! I made 2 big mistakes that cost me 2 places, I should have been more careful and kept the 4th !
Even if I came back on you, the front tires were too hot to do better and at the end I couldn't have passed you, except maybe with a few more laps ! Wink
With a Daz or MichaW, it would have been different... laugh
Thanks again for a good race. Smiley

Here's the two last laps from the Chris' car:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuGhe1WYpn4
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« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2022, 01:38:40 PM +0100 »


Your 5th place was deserved ! I made 2 big mistakes that cost me 2 places, I should have been more careful and kept the 4th !
Even if I came back on you, the front tires were too hot to do better and at the end I couldn't have passed you, except maybe with a few more laps ! Wink
With a Daz or MichaW, it would have been different... laugh
Thanks again for a good race. Smiley

Here's the two last laps from the Chris' car:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuGhe1WYpn4

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« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2022, 05:23:20 PM +0100 »

Good fun last night, really enjoy the challenge of this track of trying to carry speed through the combination corners...

I was very lucky though.

Decent pace, took the pole and made a good start, and was pulling away. To be honest, I did wonder whether Micha was letting me go and waiting for the late race pace of the BMW to kick in like it did at Interlagos.....

Made a daft error on lap 3, a spin putting the nose of the car in the grass verge dropping me behind Micha. Was very annoyed with myself, had barely spun in quali or practise, but the race is the race.....Made up the time, and kind of pestered Micha for a while, and again I think he let me go. From there I pulled away over the next few laps to give a 10 second gap or so by lap 11.

Tires were now telling me they were struggling, especially the front left. Slowed down a touch, but still had understeer. Noticed on lap 13 the gap had gone much larger at some point, 20 seconds at least, so thought to myself 'just keep it on the island'....

And then on the last lap just made a pigs ear of it at the start of the 3rd sector I think. Flew off the road at a rate of knots into the scenery, and thought that was me done. But, I hit some kind of grassy wall at an angle, and this fired me away at an angle again, and once I got it the car moving I realised I could see the road, headed for it, getting back on with around 13 seconds gap left, but with a very second hand car. Dragged it to the finish to take the win, just outrageously lucky, I didn't deserve it at all in all honesty. One more lap and I am sure Micha would have caught and passed me as the car would have been between 5-10 seconds off the pace I think.

Grats to all that made the flag.
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« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2022, 06:00:38 PM +0100 »

Agree with Daz, a really fun but challenging track & the 1275 Mini was a joy to drive around here, just lacking a little power on the fast bits.
I was surprised by my qually time as I had not beaten 3.37 in practice. Got a bit lucky at the start as I bogged down a bit & Paddler & Nocatu got ahead but both ran wide at T1 & I got back into 3rd place & just had enough speed to hold off Chris's BMW into T2. Used the early twisty section to open up a decent gap to the more powerful cars before the long uphill section. After a couple of laps Paddler was up to 4th & started to close the gap & by half distance he was only 2s behind but he must have made a mistake as it suddenly jumped back up to 6s.
With 2 laps left the gap had again reduced to 2s but I then noticed Paddler running off track at the final turn in my mirror & the gap returned to 6s. Further around lap 13 I saw the gap had increased to 18s so I was able to relax the pace a little & bring it home 3rd & a class win.

Congrats to Daz & Micha.  clap clap
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« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2022, 08:07:03 PM +0100 »

Result

Cool

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« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2022, 05:57:01 AM +0100 »


Thanks for the results and nice to see them getting use. Smiley
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