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« Reply #45 on: August 29, 2007, 12:53:20 PM +0100 »

err, i'd say a Nissan going faster than a Ferrari is 'horribly wrong'  laugh

Sounds eminently normal to me. laugh laugh laugh

Yep some Renaults are faster than some Fiats  Wink

Mark for info the Yoko tyre is actually a Dublop - there is no Yoko tyre model in GTR1 or 2, it simply calls the Dunlop model.
Anyway the difference in pace is not that much between the Dunlop and the Pirelli on the 360, but the Pirelli is more consistant over a longer run. If I remember correctly the Dunlops need about 5 clicks more camber to get it to operate correctly, so you should notice an improvement if you tweak you set a bit.. They run at the same pressure and temp though.
You can find the tyre and camber info in the GTR drivers/engineers handbook which was posted a while back .... cant find it now I'm afraid.
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« Reply #46 on: August 29, 2007, 01:04:50 PM +0100 »

I did as Simon suggested and tried a different setup (one of CJs in the online files section) and it did help quite a bit. In TT mode I managed a 1.50.2, which is pretty similar to my RS and Mosler pace. The Modena is definitely more edgy though and harder to drive. If it gets away from you then it is much harder to bring back, where the RS would just need a flick of opposite lock and a bootfull to gather things up.
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« Reply #47 on: August 29, 2007, 01:10:48 PM +0100 »

The Modena is definitely more edgy though and harder to drive. If it gets away from you then it is much harder to bring back, where the RS would just need a flick of opposite lock and a bootfull to gather things up.

Yep, that sounds like the Fezza! It requires precision driving which is my kind of driving. Cool
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« Reply #48 on: August 29, 2007, 01:14:21 PM +0100 »

To be really quick though you need to be precise in either car (or any of the others really). The difference is that when you get it wrong, the 360 bites rather quickly where the Porker just slaps your wrist and tells you not to do it again  Smiley
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« Reply #49 on: August 29, 2007, 01:21:50 PM +0100 »

Yep, that sounds like the Fezza! It requires precision driving which is my kind of driving. Cool

.... unfortunately not really my driving style, I suppose I've been spoilt driving the porker for so long. Driving the 360 for the first time last night I lost it on numerous ocasions where it would have been easily recoverable in the GT3. Needs a change of approach I think and I also agree that setup has alot to do with it. The back of the 360 seems to stiff to me but I'm wary of trying to turn it into a porker so I'll have to try and adapt my technique.
Engine sounds great at 9k rpm though Cool
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« Reply #50 on: August 29, 2007, 04:09:31 PM +0100 »

Not my style either - I seem to have fallen into the "chuck it in and wrestle it out" method which is fun but not too quick. Undecided Grin
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« Reply #51 on: August 29, 2007, 05:49:54 PM +0100 »

I've been overtake him ,then we went in last chicane before finish and I don't know what he did ( maybe he wanted overtake me back Shocked Shocked Shocked)and he hit me back of car and I've been spin.Lost first position and concentration

Sorry, I think that may have been me.  I moved left before last chicane and I think it was the leader overtook but braked early because another car was in front.  This caught me out I locked up and tried to go behind you but I just clipped you as I went straight on.

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« Reply #52 on: August 29, 2007, 09:37:49 PM +0100 »

Just out of interest, in a proper league race, if someone was DQ'ed for not doing a stop/go on the last lap, would anyone know?
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« Reply #53 on: August 30, 2007, 10:45:46 AM +0100 »

Just out of interest, in a proper league race, if someone was DQ'ed for not doing a stop/go on the last lap, would anyone know?

In theory you can spot them in the results export by looking for 3 'missing' laps (it doesn't log the lap if there's a cut) in conjunction with a DQ.

I doubt that anybody would look unless prompted but presumably if it happened to somebody they would speak up. I've a feeling this has happened before but I can't remember when or what we did about it.
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« Reply #54 on: August 30, 2007, 11:31:09 AM +0100 »

Thanks for the tyre info Mo  Cool Why did they put Yokos in there then?  Huh One of the GT3's runs yokos as well.
Has anyone got a link to that tyre/camber handbook?

Precision driving for the Modena huh...maybe i'll stick with my trusty Porsche  Wink  When i tried the modena out at Valencia it was spin city under braking but was using suspect pedals as...

My Speed 7 pedals just went kaput too...fantastic timing with S6 starting sunday  :'(  They are sending me a new electronics board out but be amazed if it arrives before end of next week. Will have to try and use my flimsy old DFP pedals. Feels like driving a Trabant after using a Porsche for a year  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #55 on: August 30, 2007, 12:06:59 PM +0100 »

Has anyone got a link to that tyre/camber handbook?

I thought the general approach was to have the inside about 5 degrees c above the outside and the middle between those two but nearer the inside, i.e. adjust camber and pressure to get those values.  Different driving styles may mean you have to change your settings from a handbook's anyway.
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« Reply #56 on: August 30, 2007, 12:31:22 PM +0100 »

yeah know all that bit John, but there was a table (i think) that had recommended cambers etc for certain tyre brands.
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« Reply #57 on: August 31, 2007, 12:52:52 PM +0100 »

Just out of interest, in a proper league race, if someone was DQ'ed for not doing a stop/go on the last lap, would anyone know?

In theory you can spot them in the results export by looking for 3 'missing' laps (it doesn't log the lap if there's a cut) in conjunction with a DQ.

I doubt that anybody would look unless prompted but presumably if it happened to somebody they would speak up. I've a feeling this has happened before but I can't remember when or what we did about it.

Dave,

just out of curiosity: shouldn't a driver who is disqualified put back down the grid? Or is there another rule in force?

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« Reply #58 on: August 31, 2007, 12:59:22 PM +0100 »

just out of curiosity: shouldn't a driver who is disqualified put back down the grid? Or is there another rule in force?

The system doesn't treat DQs specially because they aren't normally an issue in a league race. They're just handled like any other retirement.
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