UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Valencia (GP) - Sep 2

[DynoDaz]

Must apologise to Darren - I spun at T4(?) and ended up stranded in the middle of the track. I had just got into reverse with spinning wheels when you came round the bend, but I couldn't get out of the way quick enough. That Morgan really disintegrated when you hit me, sorry it ended your race.

That's ok Mo, I was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.  The story of my race.  

I'm just stunned at how fragile the Morgan is.  I've been in far worse collisions with a Porker and continued unscathed.  The engine was still running, but a combination of a badly damaged front end and 2 flat front tyres meant that the front of the car just dug into the tarmac, stopping me from moving forward.  :'(

[Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer]

As for the Vertigo, this is always going to struggle in a race unless it has enough pace to qualify ahead and stay there. I didn't do any laps it it, but looking at GTR2Rank it is just as quick as most of the other cars (at Valencia anyway). I can't see that anything has changed this season to make it that much less competitive? I can understand the frustration of racing it in the pack though.

I was a bit surprised by how far off the pace it seemed to be - okay, I was making up a lot of time on the straights, but when I had one behind me it was invariably all over me like the proverbial cheap suit through the rest of the lap.

OTOH I'm not surprised the Morgan was very good at Valencia, the torquey motor suits the track.

[mo]

The KC MC12 is a bleedin' scary thing to be racing up in the mirrors though!

Is that due to the batmobile look or my driving style? 

[Paul Richards]

Good start to the season for me. Qualified 5th behind teamie Mo, it was down on PB but ok. Sorry to see Brian have problems and drop out at the start. Was running very heavy at start so just tried to keep up with Mo and managed to eke out a small gap of 12 seconds to 5th place. Mo pitted and then came out just in front of me a lap down. He then had to pit again for his penalty which effectively gave me third. Did my quick stop and came out 36 seconds ahead of 4th and a minute behind Zacari after the pit stops all rotated. Took the last stint reletively easy to conserve car. Had a couple of scares, one where it dropped to desktop for no reason when about to lap Dave (just in case you wandered why I drove off!). I always shut everything else down, stop Anti Virus etc.. and there was no message or anything at the desktop so very strange. Luckily I was on the back straight and was able to bring the game back up pretty quickly. Also managed to throw the car off towards the end trying to let Zacari through but apart from that was pretty steady and error free.

Congrats to CJ on the win and fellow kerbie Paul for his GTC win. Thanks to all the GTCs for their consideration during lapping.

Had a couple of FPS issues but nothing major and it was very brief. Apart from that everything was fine.

[Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer]

Had a couple of scares, one where it dropped to desktop for no reason when about to lap Dave (just in case you wandered why I drove off!). I always shut everything else down, stop Anti Virus etc.. and there was no message or anything at the desktop so very strange.

Ah, wondered what happened there, I was about to let you past and suddenly your car warped back about 200 yards.

[BACKO]

Not to bad start of season 6 for me.Be honest I don't like this track.In practice session I lost conection (game crash ) ,so I reload again and join in to qualification.Race started ok ,I had nice chalenging with Jure which I really enjoyed ;)I did lots mistakes trough race wich cost me 4'th position,I finished 6'th.Congratulation top 3 each class,well done gyus!

[EdamSpeed]

Is there any chance that this is the 28 car problem rearing its ugly head? 26 always seemed more stable.

I wondered that as well, because during practice/quali I had all of the other cars freeze. Normally that would result in 'connection lost' pretty much straight away, but this time it didn't, which I thought was odd. However, shortly before that, I had been playing with the "online setups" screen, so figured the two might be related and just quit and re-joined.

Took me a little while to rejoin, as the server was full - Then, towards the end of quali, it happened again. All cars frozen, and time was just ticking down. I waited 5 minutes until the end of quali, hoping that the change in session might reconnect me, but it didn't happen I was out of sync with the server. I didn't touch the online setups section during that period at all. I wondered if perhaps my 'last available slot on the server' may have been a factor.

Oh, and yes I did reboot my router and PC just before connecting, and the Internet connection seemed fine.

So it wasn't just Brian (Kerr) that was experiencing oddness.

Very disappointing to lose connection just before the race

Oh, and apologies to Reign Man during quali - I seemed to be in your way a lot! My setup was horrible for a while and I was off the pace due to lack of practice. Got the hang of it in the end, but I remember you throwing yourself off the track to avoid me as my brakes pulled me up short into the long downhill lefthander. Sorry 

[Rob Bywater "Kerb Crawlers"]

Well that was my first serious Enduro race, and I enjoyed it immensely. Not that there was too much racing, apart from a couple of duels with Pseudo, but the fact that I was consistent in keeping it on the track for a full 80 mins, never mind 40 mins in a sprint race, really made it for me. Cocked up at pitting by speeding in pit lane, so got a stop & go, but that was my only major error. Congrats to all winners and podiums.

I don't think some of the GT1 behaved that well, considering they have all had experience of this. Far too many times I made room for one, fair enough, and the closely following GT believed they had the right to get by at the same time. Pretty inconsiderate 

I must say I really saw the other end of the coin, Ginsters. Meaning that in GT1 I was prepared to bully my way through in some situations but almost every time I was let through even when deciding for that course (I'm not saying I would do it). When I wasn't, I waited. But that's my point of view, the lapped driver might have another.    I did follow Shark through when he was lapping as we were in a direct duel. I followed in two situations even when I knew it was risky, now that I think back.    No, Psuedo, that was not your situation.    I thought you'll stay on your side of the track.  
One situation was when Shark was lapping Rob Bywater in turn 4. There was a slight undecisive moment from both Rob and Shark and a gap opened. I went for it but it closed too soon for me to back off. I had a touch with Shark and he touched Rob. Don't know what happened with Rob, we went on driving.    I'm sorry Rob, but I must say I will probably go for that kind of  gap again in a moments decission. Even more so if I got as few opportunities as I got with following Shark.  
All that said, Ginsters, GTC drivers are to have most of the credit for lapping to go as smoothly as it did. Of course, smoothly means for GT1 while GTCs lost their rhytm.    But that's a neverending story. I'm just happy that mostly we are experienced already with this and it goes better than in some other leagues.  

TT

In the past I have felt obliged to let the faster cars through, no matter where I am on the track, but last night I decided that I would try not to do anything that would upset my race too much (Im in a competetion as well) whilst allowing cars to pass safely. At this moment I was chasing Pseudo so didnt want to upset my rhythm on a bend, tho did slow a little for the passing cars. Not too sure what happened but I got a tap from Shark which didnt really do me any harm at all, so all was well.

I have noticed in the past tho that some of the faster drivers have showed a lack of patience eg when approaching a slower car at a bend, pushing to overtake instead of waiting that little bit longer till they hit the straight when a pass can be made with no problem at all.

But as for last night, that little incident apart I had no probs with the faster cars, and hopefully they didnt with me 

Cheers

Rob

[mo]

I'm just stunned at how fragile the Morgan is.  I've been in far worse collisions with a Porker and continued unscathed.  The engine was still running, but a combination of a badly damaged front end and 2 flat front tyres meant that the front of the car just dug into the tarmac, stopping me from moving forward.  :'(

I'm still removing all the wooden splinters that shot out of the exploding front end of your car 

[Truetom]

... got a tap from Shark which didnt really do me any harm at all, so all was well.

I'm glad to hear that, Rob. 

TT

[Paul968]

Dave, is there anywhere that the success ballast rules are stated other than on the thread which proposed them? I can't find them, but perhaps I'm being dim

[Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer]

Dave, is there anywhere that the success ballast rules are stated other than on the thread which proposed them? I can't find them, but perhaps I'm being dim

Not yet - I'm still working out exactly how to implement it (less than two weeks now before the first GTR2 Manager input file is needed!) so the exact details are likely to change, but I'm not expecting to use different values from the proposed ones for people staying within one class in each series.

[Paul968]

In Ruskus' absence I worked out how to do this:

Unofficial Lapchart

[Jeffrey]

Sorry about the lapchart. My PC is broke and the PC I am behind right now needs a wooden stove to operate. Greenpeace will kill me if I try to make a lapchart on this thing as I'll need the whole Amazon to power it

So thanks Paul

[CeeJay]

Had the same probs in qual as some of the others, had just gone out for my 3rd run and then FPS went to crap, did a lap to see if it cured but didn't and still in monitor had 16-17fps, didn't want to gamble it would disappear in next season, alrdy learned that lesson last season that it's always best to rejoin, so quickly did that and luckily there was still enough time left for another go, and just managed to pip Zac for the pole as the clock ran out.

As race got underway the car was a bit understeery, couldn't get proper heat in the front, guess the downside of running a negative handicap, altho midway in stint the car started to come to its own. Zacari wasnt far behind and gap toggled back and forth abit due to traffic. After the pitstop car felt a little better with less fuel and new tires and rest of race was pretty much negotiating the heavy traffic, every lap there was one or more cars to lap. Penultimate lap had a little scare as I came up on what I first thought was a 575 into T2, but suddenly I closed reaally fast under braking and I realized it was a Gillet! Just managed to throw the car inside to avoid getting a new hood ormament. After looking back I noticed the bonnet was missing, but god thing the driver was aware heh.