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  • U6UE Valencia: September 02, 2007
September 02, 2007, 09:03:00 PM +0100 - Valencia (GP) - UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
CeeJay
 GTN Drivers Club
Lister Storm (#4014) GT1 1 1:27.528
101.507mph
1 1:20:17.743
95.897mph
52 1:28.838
100.010mph
Michelin -25.0kg
Zacari
 Team Shark Junior
Lister Storm (#860003) GT1 2 +0.286
101.177mph
2 +18.304
95.534mph
52 1:29.296
99.497mph
Michelin -25.0kg
Paul Richards
 Kerb Crawlers
Saleen S7-R (#970013) GT1 5 +1.760
99.506mph
3 +1L
93.596mph
51 1:30.817
97.831mph
Pirelli +5.0kg
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Dodge Viper GTS-R (#850001) GT1 8 +2.148
99.076mph
4 +30.082
93.018mph
51 1:30.334
98.354mph
Pirelli -15.0kg
Truetom
 Legends Racing
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#820008) GT1 7 +2.046
99.189mph
5 +30.553
93.009mph
51 1:30.474
98.202mph
Michelin +12.0kg
BACKO
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#490052) GT1 9 +2.243
98.971mph
6 +43.256
92.768mph
51 1:30.650
98.011mph
Pirelli +25.0kg
mo
 Kerb Crawlers
Maserati MC12 (#870013) GT1 4 +1.487
99.811mph
7 +1:14.377
92.180mph
51 1:30.066
98.647mph
Pirelli -20.0kg
Jure
 Racin24-7
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#960037) GT1 10 +2.913
98.238mph
8 +2L
92.073mph
50 1:30.812
97.836mph
Michelin +12.0kg
Reign Man
 Team Pseudo Racing
Maserati MC12 (#800052) GT1 6 +1.904
99.346mph
9 (+2) +16.964
91.750mph
50 1:30.971
97.665mph
Pirelli -20.0kg
Paul968
 Kerb Crawlers
Morgan Aero 8 (#960013) GTC 12 +7.507
93.489mph
10 +3L
89.259mph
49 1:35.979
92.569mph
Michelin +5.0kg
João Abreu
 
Morgan Aero 8 (#3107) GTC 14 +8.296
92.719mph
11 +4L
87.757mph
48 1:37.170
91.435mph
Michelin +5.0kg
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Nissan 350Z (#990001) GTC 22 +9.135
91.914mph
12 +1.770
87.725mph
48 1:36.691
91.888mph
Michelin -17.0kg
popabawa
 Legends Racing
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#940008) GTC 18 +8.592
92.434mph
13 +16.285
87.464mph
48 1:37.571
91.059mph
Dunlop -30.0kg
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Morgan Aero 8 (#960013) GTC 19 +8.855
92.181mph
14 +26.610
87.279mph
48 1:36.837
91.749mph
Michelin +5.0kg
Adam Parle
 Legends Racing
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#940008) GTC 23 +9.245
91.810mph
15 +31.131
87.198mph
48 1:37.953
90.704mph
Dunlop -30.0kg
Filipe Marques
 Sonic Racing Team
Morgan Aero 8 (#3107) GTC 17 +8.485
92.537mph
16 (+2) +47.019
86.916mph
48 1:36.343
92.220mph
Michelin +5.0kg
pribeiro
 Sonic Racing Team
Ferrari 360 Modena (#4064) GTC 24 +9.893
91.199mph
17 +47.206
86.913mph
48 1:37.276
91.335mph
Pirelli +25.0kg
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS (#4059) GTC 21 +9.098
91.950mph
18 +5L
86.320mph
47 1:37.178
91.427mph
Michelin +30.0kg
Madd-RIP
 Team RVS
Mosler MT900R (#520029) GTC 15 +8.403
92.616mph
19 +36.528
85.673mph
47 1:37.054
91.544mph
Dunlop +15.0kg
Rob Bywater "Kerb Crawlers"
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS (#930013) GTC 25 +9.951
91.145mph
20 +6L
84.587mph
46 1:38.564
90.142mph
Michelin +30.0kg
psuedo
 Team Pseudo Racing
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#770052) GTC 27 +10.579
90.561mph
21 +18.581
84.263mph
46 1:39.273
89.498mph
Dunlop -30.0kg
Darren Seal
 Legends Racing
Morgan Aero 8 (#860008) GTC 16 +8.474
92.547mph
22 +20L 32 1:37.555
91.074mph
unknown
Michelin +5.0kg
Gazza49er
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#490052) GT1 11 +3.411
97.700mph
23 +24L 28 1:31.931
96.645mph
DQ
Pirelli +25.0kg
will16v
 
Porsche 993 GT2 (#3038) G2 26 +10.164
90.946mph
24 +35L 17 1:36.412
92.154mph
unknown
Dunlop  
John
 Team Pseudo Racing
Morgan Aero 8 (#3107) GTC 13 +8.263
92.751mph
25 +48L 4 1:37.263
91.347mph
engine
Michelin +5.0kg
Kerr
 Team Shark Junior
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#980003) GT1 3 +0.973
100.391mph
+52L 0 ---
---
unknown
Michelin +12.0kg
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Mosler MT900R (#520029) GTC 20 +9.024
92.020mph
0 ---
---
unknown
Dunlop +15.0kg

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 478s

Having nearly run into the back left corner of Darren in turn 8, and come very close to rear ending him in a number of other turns on the same lap, Filipe Marques runs smack into the back of Darren's Morgan in the final turn; contact is relatively light but Darren is pushed into the gravel.

Filipe does the honorable thing and slows along the straight until Darren catches and passes him, both cars losing a fair number of places and a lot of time in the process.

Filipe is quick but has not yet learned the importance of caution, driving within one's own abilities and taking account of the abilities of those one is racing with - an important part of league participation.

  • Filipe Marquespenalty — contact with Darren — 2 places lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 478s

Shark uses the massive torque of the Viper engine to haul in Reign Man's MC12 along the main straight. As the approach turn 1, RM squeezes him further and further to the right, even after Shark starts to gain some overlap with his car, until Shark has to run over the grass before getting back onto the pit exit lane.

As they reach the turn in point, Shark's car veers left a little, but Reign Man completely fails to turn in. The cars make contact and the MC12 is turned across the nose of the Viper, and both go into the gravel trap.

One of the driver's reports was disappointingly terse and provided no useful information on their perspective or state of mind.

Shark's chances of actually pulling off an outside pass here were optimistic. At the same time, Reign Man had no right to squeeze him off the track having made a move to a defensive inside line - forcing Shark onto the grass almost certainly was a major factor in the contact.

Backo nearly collides with Shark after a late (and unreported) lunge by Truetom (who waited afterwards) puts him into the same gravel trap.

  • Reign Mancaution — forcing another driver off the track


Server replay time: 2265s

Reign Man has run off the track in the final corner and in attempting to rejoin he chooses completely the wrong moment to hit the throttle and puts himself broadside across the track right in front of Popabawa's Vertigo.

  • Reign Manpenalty — dangerous rejoin — 2 places lost


Server replay time: 3209s

Mo is lapping Popabawa's Vertigo around the outside of turn 5. Pops exits the corner as normal and gets caught out by Mo's car (which is off line) being slower out of the corner, the Vertigo running into the Maserati and spinning it out.

I'm unsure what penalty should apply here as it's an unusual situation; since Mo chose not to report it, I'll be generous.

  • popabawawarning — contact with Mo
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 4772s

Filipe Marques shows better restraint as he catches Adam Parle's Vertigo near the end of the race, but he makes a horlicks of an overtaking attempt into turn 8, not even getting alongside before Adam turns in, and then sliding his Morgan into the side of Adam's car, almost pushing him into a spin and taking the place anyway. There were still a few laps left and Filipe would've gotten past the Vertigo easily on the main straight.

Adam had the last laugh as Filipe spins a lap later, inadvertently handing the place back.

  • Filipe Marquespenalty — contact with Adam Parle — 2 places lost

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR2
G2
1:37.692
90.946mph
will16v
Qualifying
Porsche 993 GT2September 02, 2007, 09:03:00 PM +0100
U6UE
GTR2
G2
1:36.412
92.154mph
will16v
Race
Porsche 993 GT2September 02, 2007, 09:03:00 PM +0100
U6UE
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« Reply #135 on: September 03, 2007, 09:19:44 PM +0100 »

In the past I have felt obliged to let the faster cars through, no matter where I am on the track, but last night I decided that I would try not to do anything that would upset my race too much (Im in a competetion as well) whilst allowing cars to pass safely. At this moment I was chasing Pseudo so didnt want to upset my rhythm on a bend, tho did slow a little for the passing cars. Not too sure what happened but I got a tap from Shark which didnt really do me any harm at all, so all was well.

Quite right too Rob. You are under no obligation to let the fast cars through in situations like that. In that situation last night I thought about going for it but backed out of it not wanting to do anything silly. Unfortunately TrueTom was so close behind he found it impossible to not knock me into your rear. That'll teach him to tailgate.  Wink Wink angel laugh
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« Reply #136 on: September 03, 2007, 09:21:50 PM +0100 »

Lol yea, I was a bit too close. But not close enough for other than sniff your smelly unhealty exhaust.  Lips Sealed
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« Reply #137 on: September 03, 2007, 10:12:03 PM +0100 »

Also: warm-up time table showed some 4, maaaaaybe 5 drivers posting a lap time, not more and I'm pretty sure there were more of us out there, right?

Nope, there were only 6 in total for all of warm-up.

I personally felt no need to use the warmup session to do anything but cool down before the race. laugh laugh Next race it will be needed to ensure ballasts are correct at the server end.
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« Reply #138 on: September 03, 2007, 10:21:33 PM +0100 »


I personally felt no need to use the warmup session to do anything but cool down before the race. laugh laugh Next race it will be needed to ensure ballasts are correct at the server end.

Does that mean qualification is without the succes ballast or that you guys check if everybody has the correct amount of ballast?
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« Reply #139 on: September 04, 2007, 07:32:22 AM +0100 »

Does that mean qualification is without the succes ballast or that you guys check if everybody has the correct amount of ballast?

No, and yes.
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« Reply #140 on: September 04, 2007, 01:52:39 PM +0100 »

Kerr, did you install the latest version of GoogleEarth? Check task manager for GoogleUpdaterService.exe, perhaps it's the one to be blamed for network issues (I kill it before racing).

Newest firmware on your router/modem would be a good idea too.

Hope it helps.
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« Reply #141 on: September 04, 2007, 06:57:52 PM +0100 »

Here's the first semi-official output from the ballast process, which will be used (with any updated driver names) for the Monza Upper Endurance race.

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Adam Parle
-20.0
BACKO
-20.0
Brian Kerr
-20.0
Claus Juel
35.0
Dan Minton
-20.0
Darren
-20.0
Dave Gymer
5.0
Filipe Marques
-20.0
Gazza49er
-20.0
Joao Abreu
15.0
John
-20.0
Madd-RIP
-20.0
Mark Jonzo
-20.0
mo
-20.0
Paul Richards
10.0
Paul968
25.0
popabawa
-5.0
PRibeiro
-20.0
Psuedo
-20.0
Reign Man
-20.0
Rob B
-20.0
Simon Gymer
-10.0
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-10.0
Truetom
-20.0
Zacari
25.0
[R24-7]Jure
-20.0

I think that anyone who changes class will have to carry their ballast over, which will mostly hit (successful drivers) or help (unsuccessful ones) those moving from GT1 to slower classes. But hopefully that won't happen much and I think is a price worth paying to keep the system simple.
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« Reply #142 on: September 04, 2007, 07:57:57 PM +0100 »

Is there something wrong with those calculations? 3rd to 4th is 20kg. +10kg to -10kg. Not that I'm complaining but I was expecting to be on 0kg.
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« Reply #143 on: September 05, 2007, 09:52:13 AM +0100 »

Is there something wrong with those calculations? 3rd to 4th is 20kg. +10kg to -10kg. Not that I'm complaining but I was expecting to be on 0kg.

It works pretty much the same as the FIA GT, but with smaller numbers.
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« Reply #144 on: September 05, 2007, 10:37:22 AM +0100 »

There is a subtle difference though (as far as I can see). In the FIA rules you obviously can't add negative ballast, so in effect this means that we all started on +20kg. This will accentuate the gap at the start of the season, which after this race will be +55kg fastest to slowest (in GT1) compared to +35kg if we were running FIA rules. Not saying it matters a lot, but it is different.
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