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September 13, 2007, 08:55:02 PM +0100 - Brands Hatch (GP) - UKGTL Season 3 GT Classics Cup
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Ford GT40 (#840) GTC-65 1 1:41.655
88.033mph
1 41:38.167
85.974mph
24 1:42.696
87.141mph
Dunlop  
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Ford GT40 (#202928) GTC-65 3 +0.320
87.757mph
2 +13.498
85.511mph
24 1:42.687
87.148mph
Dunlop  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Ford GT40 (#840) GTC-65 5 +1.813
86.491mph
3 +31.842
84.891mph
24 1:44.293
85.806mph
Dunlop  
ASSASSINO
 Ghostspeed
Ford GT40 (#840) GTC-65 2 +0.136
87.916mph
4 +54.871
84.126mph
24 1:42.611
87.213mph
Dunlop  
Bernie Lomax
 Legends Racing
Ford GT40 (#840) GTC-65 4 +1.412
86.827mph
5 +56.358
84.077mph
24 1:44.551
85.595mph
Dunlop  
Steve Holmes
 
TVR Griffith 400 (#857) GTC-65 8 +3.521
85.086mph
6 +1:10.366
83.618mph
24 1:44.981
85.244mph
Dunlop  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing
AC Cobra 427 (#887) GTC-65 7 +3.295
85.269mph
7 +1:29.174
83.010mph
24 1:46.064
84.374mph
Dunlop  
pribeiro
 Ghostspeed
TVR Griffith 400 (#879) GTC-65 9 +4.210
84.532mph
8 +1:33.397
82.875mph
24 1:45.722
84.647mph
Dunlop  
TinMan
 Team Oldie Racing
TVR Griffith 400 (#201477) GTC-65 11 +4.553
84.259mph
9 +1L
82.016mph
23 1:46.779
83.809mph
Dunlop  
baracus250gt
 Ghostspeed
Shelby Daytona Coupe (#856) GTC-65 6 +2.896
85.595mph
10 +7.855
81.760mph
23 1:45.228
85.044mph
Dunlop  
BACKO
 Team Pseudo Racing
Lotus Elan 26R (#605) GTC-65 10 +4.252
84.499mph
11 +19.851
81.372mph
23 1:45.923
84.486mph
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 
Lotus Elan 26R (#601) GTC-65 12 +5.020
83.890mph
12 +42.557
80.648mph
23 1:47.604
83.166mph
Dunlop  
Phil Gilliland
 
Lotus Elan 26R (#653) GTC-65 17 +5.666
83.385mph
13 +58.708
80.141mph
23 1:48.458
82.511mph
Dunlop  
Oilseal
 Team Oldie Racing
Ford GT40 (#201431) GTC-65 15 +5.223
83.731mph
14 +1:30.012
79.176mph
23 1:49.560
81.681mph
Dunlop  
will16v
 
Shelby Daytona Coupe (#856) GTC-65 19 +6.208
82.966mph
15 +1:41.514
78.827mph
23 1:47.944
82.904mph
Dunlop  
madmac
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Lotus Elan 26R (#621) GTC-65 18 +6.110
83.042mph
16 +2L
77.862mph
22 1:49.312
81.867mph
Dunlop  
picnic
 Team Shark
Shelby Daytona Coupe (#856) GTC-65 20 +7.991
81.617mph
17 +43.233
76.553mph
22 1:49.256
81.909mph
Dunlop  
John
 Team Pseudo Racing
Lotus Elan 26R (#601) GTC-65 13 +5.131
83.803mph
18 +8L 16 1:46.533
84.002mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Malcolm_R
 
Lotus Elan 26R (#601) GTC-65 16 +5.512
83.505mph
19 +9L 15 1:46.087
84.355mph
suspension
Dunlop  
Alex vV
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Lotus Elan 26R (#603) GTC-65 21 +9.921
80.205mph
20 +16L 8 1:53.764
78.663mph
unknown
Dunlop  
KL Mallender
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
TVR Griffith 400 (#855) GTC-65 21 +18L 6 1:52.225
79.742mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Kerr
 Team Shark Junior
Lotus Elan 26R (#200101) GTC-65 14 +5.155
83.784mph
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

With the greater grunt, Assassino's GT gets its nose just in front of Steve Holmes TVR into final turn of final lap. Steve is, obviuosly, not keen to give up the place at that point and gives Assassino little room on the inside. Therefore, when Assassino runs a little wide, slight contact is made which unfortunately sends Steve into the sand.

I'd say that both were a little more agressive than normal but that is completely understandable and forgiveable at this point in a race. So its a racing incident for me.

Racing Incident.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GT Legends
GTC-65
1:41.655
88.033mph
Jeffrey
Qualifying
Ford GT40September 13, 2007, 08:55:02 PM +0100
L3
GT Legends
GTC-65
1:42.611
87.213mph
ASSASSINO
Race
Ford GT40September 13, 2007, 08:55:02 PM +0100
L3
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« on: September 01, 2007, 12:40:00 AM +0100 »

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Practice: 20:15 (10 mins)
Qualifying: 20:25 (25 mins)
Race: 20:50 (24 laps = ~40 mins)

Track: Brands Hatch GP v1.0 (download here)
Cars allowed: Ford GT40, AC Cobra, TVR Griffith 400, Lotus Elan, Shelby Daytona Coupe
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Start: STANDING

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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2007, 05:40:13 PM +0100 »

I start 10 days holidays on this day.  Grin  Then I'm back for a few days and off again for another 9 days so I don't think I'll be able to race in this series for perhaps 4 weeks.   Sad

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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2007, 06:57:04 PM +0100 »

Won't be able to make this one either, Working 12-8 next week Sad

Which REALLY peeves me because I was looking forward to racing my TVR
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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2007, 07:46:29 PM +0100 »

Does anyone else think the cars look a bit on the small side when viewed in TV mode?  They look like T-cars or those bike engined Legends to me  Huh
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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2007, 08:25:14 PM +0100 »

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or those bike engined Legends to me

nothing new there then Tongue Cheesy
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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2007, 11:48:40 AM +0100 »

Did some laps here last night, mostly to see what these cars are like as I've been lucky enough to drive this track in real life so I know which way the bendy bits go.  Found the Cobra to be a real beast, although the quickest (low 1:45s), then the GT40, Shelby (with ducfreak sound mod which is incredible with the volume right up!) and TVR about the same in the low 1:46s.  Haven't tried the Lotus as I'm a big cubic inches kind of guy   Shocked

I'm guessing those laptimes will put me in my usual mid to rear part of the grid, alongside my non-alien comrades  Grin
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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2007, 01:14:08 PM +0100 »

Did some laps here last night, mostly to see what these cars are like as I've been lucky enough to drive this track in real life so I know which way the bendy bits go.  Found the Cobra to be a real beast, although the quickest (low 1:45s), then the GT40, Shelby (with ducfreak sound mod which is incredible with the volume right up!) and TVR about the same in the low 1:46s.  Haven't tried the Lotus as I'm a big cubic inches kind of guy   Shocked

I'm guessing those laptimes will put me in my usual mid to rear part of the grid, alongside my non-alien comrades  Grin

Lucky you to have driven Brands, I've done trackdays at many UK tracks but never Brands, always wanted to do the full circuit, but now financial considerations (and my car in storage) mean I won't quite yet  Sad

It's a damn hard track to get right, I'm finding. I've run 10 laps in both TVR and Elan and both done mid to low 1:46s and always felt I wasn't quite getting the lines right.  It's living up to its rep as a tricky track!!   Gotta say I love it even if I can't get it right yet  Grin
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« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2007, 02:00:40 PM +0100 »

Only tried the GT40 so far. Never driven it competitively so fancy giving the racing legend a run around the legendary Brands Hatch.  Cool
1:45.3 is my best so far. Got a 1:44 in me if i could stop cocking up at least one corner each lap  Roll Eyes
If i get time this eve i'll try out the cobra and Shelby but will probably stick to the GT40 for a cool change of car....tho it understeers like a ferry  Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2007, 02:47:19 PM +0100 »

I agree with Mark, the understeer in these cars in offensive, the only saving grace being gobfulls of exit oversteer on demand! 

Had some spare time last night so I put in a lengthy test session in which I settled on the TVR as it was the most driveable (which is weird as TVR and driveable are not words that are often found in the same sentence!), putting me consistently in the 1:45's on race fuel.  This might have at least kept me on the lead lap  Wink.  However, SWMBO tells me we have to go out tonight  cursing so this race goes out the window!

I hope you all have fun and be careful at Dingle Dell corner, but not too careful as I want to watch the replay when I get back and expect to be entertained  Cheesy
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« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2007, 02:56:17 PM +0100 »

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« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2007, 03:16:13 PM +0100 »

Think i might risk it and take one of Carroll Shelby's finest tonight, no idea what set up yet though... Huh
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« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2007, 04:01:42 PM +0100 »

Will, i would suggest dropping an email to Mr Shelby  Grin...he still writes articles for Octane magazine each month, so drop him a pm and ask for some setup tips Wink

John...tell SWMBO to go out on her own, you've got racing to do  Kiss
then duck  Grin
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« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2007, 09:54:37 PM +0100 »

Great Race,    Had a great battle with Assissano and Ruskus ... . Thought i might been able to get a win when Ruskus went of Surtees but he was able to drive better on the worn tyres (i think) and caught back up.
What Happened Assisano ? you suddenly just pulled up in front of me.
Grats on the win Jeff and sorry to who ever it was i hit at Paddock ..i went to pass you on the inside but you moved across.
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« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2007, 10:00:48 PM +0100 »

Oh dear, how embarrising - I simply suck at this game  Embarrassed I only gained 5 places in the race because 5 people dropped out  :'(
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« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2007, 10:00:48 PM +0100 »

what a cracking track that is and what a corking car the GT40 is to throw around it. Really enjoyed sliding around Brands with my speakers cranked up loud for Ducfreaks awesome GT40 engine sounds...i feel like i've driven the real thing and am now slightly deaf Tongue

Had a great close qually battle with a few other GT40 runners and got pipped right at the end for 4th by my team mate Bernie..the bugger Kiss

Race started well, got a clean run through Paddock hill bend and set about trying to chase the top 3 runners, but alas they were too damn fast for me and other than Baracus keeping a watching brief about 4-6 secs behind me, i was fairly lonesome for the entire race.
Eventually even he had an off and i spent the entire race on my own racing no one except the clock, and hoping one of the front 3 would have an off. Jeff did and i chased his smoke for a couple of laps but then he disapeared off into the sunset Roll Eyes
I had a solid mistake free run from start to chequered flag and finished a fine 3rd place, with 4th fastest race lap  Cool
I'll be in the Kentagon having a pint with the pit-girls when my podium laurels are ready  Grin
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