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September 16, 2007, 09:02:55 PM +0100 - Monza (GP 2000-present) - UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Lister Storm (#860001) GT1 1 1:41.483
127.467mph
1 1:20:51.965
119.974mph
45 1:42.446
126.269mph
Michelin -25.0kg
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Dodge Viper GTS-R (#850001) GT1 2 +0.591
126.729mph
2 +29.832
119.241mph
45 1:43.226
125.315mph
Pirelli -25.0kg
Truetom
 Legends Racing
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#820008) GT1 6 +1.052
126.159mph
3 +1:04.873
118.391mph
45 1:43.607
124.854mph
Michelin -8.0kg
Paul Richards
 Kerb Crawlers
Saleen S7-R (#970013) GT1 5 +0.949
126.286mph
4 +1:13.934
118.173mph
45 1:43.715
124.724mph
Pirelli +15.0kg
Joss
 Team Shark
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#980001) GT1 28 5 +1:17.418
118.090mph
45 1:43.259
125.275mph
Michelin +12.0kg
Reign Man
 Team Pseudo Racing
Maserati MC12 (#800052) GT1 10 +2.195
124.769mph
6 +1L
117.003mph
44 1:44.433
123.867mph
Pirelli -40.0kg
Jure
 Racin24-7
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#960037) GT1 8 +1.840
125.197mph
7 +16.197
116.615mph
44 1:44.731
123.514mph
Michelin -8.0kg
CeeJay
 GTN Drivers Club
Lister Storm (#4014) GT1 3 +0.689
126.608mph
8 +20.259
116.518mph
44 1:43.087
125.484mph
Michelin +10.0kg
EdamSpeed
 Kerb Crawlers
Saleen S7-R (#970013) GT1 11 +2.817
124.024mph
9 +2L
114.049mph
43 1:44.908
123.306mph
Pirelli +5.0kg
BACKO
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#490052) GT1 9 +1.932
125.086mph
10 +3L 42 1:43.959
124.431mph
fuel
Pirelli +5.0kg
Paul968
 Kerb Crawlers
Morgan Aero 8 (#960013) GTC 18 +9.995
116.039mph
11 +4L
108.806mph
41 1:53.417
114.055mph
Michelin +30.0kg
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS (#930013) GTC 14 +9.251
116.818mph
12 +9.852
108.586mph
41 1:52.051
115.445mph
Michelin +20.0kg
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Nissan 350Z (#990001) GTC 25 +11.555
114.437mph
13 +23.951
108.274mph
41 1:53.534
113.937mph
Michelin -12.0kg
popabawa
 Legends Racing
Nissan 350Z (#4085) GTC 23 +11.189
114.809mph
14 +32.711
108.081mph
41 1:53.590
113.881mph
Michelin -22.0kg
picnic
 Team Shark
Morgan Aero 8 (#900001) GTC 24 +11.405
114.589mph
15 +35.522
108.019mph
41 1:53.198
114.275mph
Michelin +5.0kg
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS (#4059) GTC 21 +10.313
115.709mph
16 +1:23.064
106.983mph
41 1:52.724
114.756mph
Michelin +10.0kg
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Mosler MT900R (#520029) GTC 22 +10.394
115.625mph
17 +5L
106.592mph
40 1:52.646
114.835mph
Dunlop -5.0kg
psuedo
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ferrari 360 Modena (#890052) GTC 27 +11.911
114.078mph
18 +1:21.305
104.836mph
40 1:53.583
113.888mph
Pirelli +5.0kg
John
 Team Pseudo Racing
Morgan Aero 8 (#3107) GTC 20 +10.282
115.741mph
19 +7L 38 1:51.575
115.938mph
DQ
Michelin -15.0kg
pribeiro
 Sonic Racing Team
Ferrari 360 Modena (#4064) GTC 16 +9.759
116.285mph
20 +9L 36 1:52.406
115.081mph
engine
Pirelli +5.0kg
Madd-RIP
 Team RVS
Mosler MT900R (#520029) GTC 15 +9.459
116.599mph
21 +18L 27 1:52.430
115.056mph
engine
Dunlop -5.0kg
Rob Bywater "Kerb Crawlers"
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS (#930013) GTC 26 +11.838
114.151mph
22 +19L 26 1:54.576
112.901mph
unknown
Michelin +10.0kg
Zacari
 Team Shark Junior
Lister Storm (#860003) GT1 4 +0.884
126.366mph
23 +23L 22 1:43.138
125.422mph
engine
Michelin +0.0kg
Adam Parle
 Legends Racing
Morgan Aero 8 (#860008) GTC 17 +9.901
116.137mph
24 +27L 18 1:53.334
114.138mph
suspension
Michelin -15.0kg
mo
 Kerb Crawlers
Maserati MC12 (#870013) GT1 7 +1.636
125.445mph
25 +31L 14 1:43.770
124.658mph
unknown
Pirelli -40.0kg
Pedro Silva
 Sonic Racing Team
Ferrari 575 GTC (#4011) GT1 12 +3.734
122.944mph
26 +32L 13 1:50.875
116.670mph
suspension
Pirelli +10.0kg
Darren Seal
 Legends Racing
Morgan Aero 8 (#860008) GTC 19 +10.129
115.899mph
27 13 1:52.495
114.990mph
suspension
Michelin -15.0kg
Gazza49er
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#490052) GT1 13 +4.120
122.494mph
28 +38L 7 1:47.120
120.759mph
accident
Pirelli +5.0kg

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 1804s

Mo's MC12 is catching Backo's 550 as they head out of Ascari and towards the Parabolica. Backo moves to the right to defend the corner, but then moves left again as they reach the braking zone. Everything looks normal under braking until right at the end of the braking zone, where Mo locks a wheel as he starts to turn in and runs into the back of Backo, spinning both cars. EdamSpeed runs into Backo, unable to avoid him, Darren also getting caught up.

Mo retires immediately; Backo pits for repairs.

Mo's braking point appears to be very slightly later than the lap before, but this is not a classic rear ender. Instead, it appears that having been unsighted going into the corner, he brakes to the point of lockup, and then releases the brakes to try and free the locked wheel and make the corner just at the moment when he's right behind Backo, who is still braking, and probably slightly slower than normal because of the relatively late move back to the left.

Normally this would be a two place penalty, but in light of Backo's fairly late move back over to the left, the fact that the contact occurred at the point where a driver would normally be transitioning from braking to balanced throttle, we're issuing cautions to both drivers.

  • BACKOcaution — don't move across in front of another car in a braking zone
  • mocaution — rear ending Backo

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« Reply #30 on: September 16, 2007, 06:04:16 PM +0100 »

Dave, that is ridiculous - I raced in GTC in the first race when I was still showing as FT. That post was well out of date, as is shown by your comment of the 5th sept -
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Okay - I don't suppose I can persuade you to run in GT1 in Upper Endurance, as those numbers are slightly light by the looks of it?
. You wouldn't put that if I was already doing GT1? You also know I've been trying to get you to help me do GTC in a different car.
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« Reply #31 on: September 16, 2007, 06:10:08 PM +0100 »

Update - the request that you quote was superceded by this one:

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No Thanks - not keen on racing vipers in a cup car. You had better put me in lower GT2 and upper GTC. 
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3448.msg56338#msg56338

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« Reply #32 on: September 16, 2007, 06:23:31 PM +0100 »

All sorted now I hope.
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« Reply #33 on: September 16, 2007, 06:32:49 PM +0100 »

Thx Dave  Smiley
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« Reply #34 on: September 16, 2007, 07:45:58 PM +0100 »

FreQ - when you say it's refusing to run at all, what do you mean?

It could just be the disc protection system is playing up.  It's a known problem when you upgrade to version 1100 and occurs on both Vista and XP.

The no-cd exe fixes the problem.

Hope this helps. 

Ahh, maybe that's it....
It just constantly loops on the GFX settings splash screen and refuses to boot the game. I wondered why I'd run it before and now it was suddenly not working....I'll be on my old pc tonight whatever. Would be nice to try it though.

I've ordered another hard drive to put an XP install on it so I have the option to switch between Vista + XP easily.
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« Reply #35 on: September 16, 2007, 07:54:13 PM +0100 »

Thanks chaps, I'll try those OC settings at some point, see if my system can manage them and what difference they make if any.
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« Reply #36 on: September 16, 2007, 08:23:57 PM +0100 »

27/28

Server is full

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« Reply #37 on: September 16, 2007, 08:34:35 PM +0100 »

The server was down and 5 min later full..,  maybe next one, have fun,
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« Reply #38 on: September 16, 2007, 09:09:08 PM +0100 »

Another disaster due to same problems as last upper endurance.

Everything was fine when I practiced earlier on, using the practice server.

Everything was fine in practice 1 and 2. The start of qualification was fine too.

Then I noticed that some peoples lap times were not recorded by I was a 1.52.4 in 5th, Simon was 2nd with 1.53.0 CJ was 3rd with 2.02odd and Zacari 4th with no logged time.

Cars began to lag in parts. Not sure if I nudged you or not Simon going into turn 1, sorry if I did.

Then game went really wonky and connection lost.

Tried to get back on and by that time the server had already gone to warm up, must have just missed it.

I don't get what is wrong. That is the second upper endurance event that the exact same has happened. I have raced a few other races, GT1 sprint, GT2 enduro 911 cup fun race etc and no problems.

Two upper endurance events gone two bizarre second half qualification episodes.

It may be coincidence but last time Zacari did not even appear on my timing list at Estoril and today it would not log his times.

I'm really cheesed off as was looking forward to it and it's annoying to plan your Sunday night for racing for this to happen again.

Any idea what my problem is with upper endurance only?
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« Reply #39 on: September 16, 2007, 09:46:27 PM +0100 »

When will my bad luck end in this championship?

At Valencia my race was ended when I hit a spun GT1 car.  The same happened again.  :'(

Heading around Parabolica I could see lots of smoke and some stationary cars which had spun.  I narrowly missed a couple of cars and thought I was out of danger.  But no, hiding the other side of some smoke was EdamSpeed (I think).  Sorry mate, I just couldn't avoid you.  Like Valencia the Morgan shattered into a thousand splinters.  RACE OVER!

Shame, I was having a great battle with John (great driving mate) and was running 3rd in class, slowly catching 2nd.  :'( 
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« Reply #40 on: September 16, 2007, 09:47:09 PM +0100 »

Small mistakes led to stop & go's led to me losing interest led to me hitting a wall.

Annoyed after what was a decent qually.
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« Reply #41 on: September 16, 2007, 10:01:12 PM +0100 »

Engine went bang, just as I was pitting, bugger  Angry
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« Reply #42 on: September 16, 2007, 10:26:47 PM +0100 »

After a 3rd GTC qualifing place i was quite happy  Smiley
SBG and Madd-RIP went away a bit (2-3 secs) in front, so i thought i better
spare my tires and engine untill 2nd stint  Cool
Just before my pit stop i got 2 scary moments: Shocked
First, a car i was about to lap, spun just in front and i had to go wide to gravel
to avoid him, wasnt bad (lost only 3-4 secs)  Undecided
Second, a car i was about to lap, spun in front in the midlle of last chicane,
this time to avoid him i had to brake hard, and i lost the rear, so i spun also (lost 8-9 secs)  Undecided
But the real lost for me was when, only 8 minutes to end, and when i was in 1st of GTC
10 seconds in front of 2nd, my engine blow  Grin :'( Tongue
Damn Italian engines  Shocked
I ask, can i assemble a TVR(Rover) engine to my Modena?  Grin Grin Grin Grin ofcourse not  Roll Eyes
Was a great fun race guys, thanks all.
Congrats to winners  Wink
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« Reply #43 on: September 16, 2007, 10:38:44 PM +0100 »

Did a PB in qually and was very happy with that. Eventhough some big competitors had big weight penalties. That's the only downside of those penalties, you feel it's unfair when the weight is ineven.

Simon's Viper was behind me and I was afraid he was just gonna wizz past, but his topspeed (188mph) wasn't much higher than my Lister's (187,5mph) Shocked.
I could slowly drive off as Simon and CJ were battling.

All went pretty well and was on schedule with fuel and tires, so I thought I coukd win alot in the pits. But my first gear was so long that I stalled it driving off  whistling.

Well done to FreQ for going from last till 5th Shocked and Paul 968 for the GTC win and Simon for doing great in the Viper.
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« Reply #44 on: September 16, 2007, 10:41:57 PM +0100 »

Then I noticed that some peoples lap times were not recorded by I was a 1.52.4 in 5th, Simon was 2nd with 1.53.0 CJ was 3rd with 2.02odd and Zacari 4th with no logged time.

Cars began to lag in parts. Not sure if I nudged you or not Simon going into turn 1, sorry if I did.

I don't think you were actually there Brian cause I didn't see you at all during the race. I think the server may have lost you or you may have lost the server, but I don't remember you even on the grid.

I had one of my best results at Monza, getting a 2nd position in the Viper. I'm really not a Monza fan, never have been, never will be. Firstly low down-force doesn't suit me and secondly I think it's a really crap track for racing at. Lucky for me the Viper is quite a beast in a straight line so I was able to run 2-4 wing instead of 1-3 or even less and still have same top speed as the other cars (Listers).

Qualifying 2nd was just unbelievable as I do not have the pace of quite a few of the drivers in the division, but happy to take it none the less. I'm sure my -10kg negative-success ballast helped and the Viper being good on the straights.

After I kept CJ and Zacari at bay for the first 20 minutes I pulled a nice gap till the pit stops and then just carried on from there. Jeff was too quick for me and I saw no other GT1s for racing with so it was just a case of heart in the mouth overtaking GTC cars where the speed difference is quite immense at Monza. I think I became accustomed to the overtaking after about half the race and it just seemed a little easier, especially when you're not worrying about losing time to people behind.

Congrats to Jeff on his win to make it a Team Shark 1-2! Well done to Gizmo too on third in class in GTC, good team result with Picnic in 5th and finally a special mention to Joss for 5th when he started at the back and crossed the finish line at the end of the race with exactly NO fuel. Grin
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