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  • U6UE Adria: September 30, 2007
September 30, 2007, 09:03:38 PM +0100 - Adria - UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Zacari
 Team Shark Junior
Lister Storm (#860003) GT1 3 +0.124
85.548mph
1 1:20:39.254
81.751mph
66 1:10.811
84.650mph
Michelin -35.0kg
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Lister Storm (#860001) GT1 4 +0.343
85.281mph
2 +30.312
81.242mph
66 1:10.935
84.502mph
Michelin +10.0kg
Joss
 Team Shark
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#980001) GT1 2 +0.095
85.583mph
3 +34.651
81.170mph
66 1:10.888
84.558mph
Michelin -8.0kg
BACKO
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#490052) GT1 7 +0.787
84.746mph
4 +1:01.507
80.725mph
66 1:11.013
84.409mph
Pirelli +5.0kg
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Dodge Viper GTS-R (#850001) GT1 11 +2.162
83.130mph
5 +1L
80.484mph
65 1:11.864
83.410mph
Pirelli +0.0kg
Kerr
 Team Shark Junior
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#980003) GT1 22 +11.994
73.155mph
6 +2.907
80.436mph
65 1:11.065
84.347mph
Michelin -8.0kg
Truetom
 Legends Racing
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#820008) GT1 8 +0.805
84.724mph
7 +23.474
80.096mph
65 1:11.783
83.504mph
Michelin +2.0kg
Paul Richards
 Kerb Crawlers
Saleen S7-R (#970013) GT1 6 +0.699
84.851mph
8 +36.560
79.881mph
65 1:11.674
83.631mph
Pirelli +5.0kg
Jure
 Racin24-7
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#960037) GT1 9 +1.163
84.298mph
9 +2L
78.758mph
64 1:11.482
83.855mph
Michelin -8.0kg
Madd-RIP
 Team RVS
Mosler MT900R (#520029) GTC 14 +5.410
79.547mph
10 +4L
75.648mph
62 1:15.655
79.230mph
Dunlop -5.0kg
Paul968
 Kerb Crawlers
Morgan Aero 8 (#960013) GTC 15 +5.536
79.414mph
11 +5L
75.530mph
61 1:16.152
78.713mph
Michelin +55.0kg
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 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS (#930013) GTC 16 +5.594
79.353mph
12 +28.500
75.088mph
61 1:16.489
78.366mph
Michelin +35.0kg
popabawa
 Legends Racing
Nissan 350Z (#4085) GTC 20 +7.288
77.612mph
13 +56.123
74.664mph
61 1:17.028
77.818mph
Michelin -27.0kg
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Nissan 350Z (#990001) GTC 19 +7.264
77.636mph
14 +56.888
74.652mph
61 1:17.447
77.397mph
Michelin -7.0kg
pribeiro
 Sonic Racing Team
Ferrari 360 Modena (#4064) GTC 17 +6.773
78.133mph
15 +57.010
74.651mph
61 1:17.904
76.943mph
Pirelli +5.0kg
R. Midderhoff
 
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#3036) GT1 12 +3.248
81.896mph
16 61 1:12.111
83.124mph
fuel
Michelin +12.0kg
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS (#4059) GTC 18 +7.206
77.695mph
17 +6L
73.789mph
60 1:17.026
77.820mph
Michelin +10.0kg
Gazza49er
 Team Pseudo Racing
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#740052) GT1 5 +0.612
84.956mph
18 +10L 56 1:11.616
83.698mph
engine
Michelin -8.0kg
psuedo
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ferrari 360 Modena (#890052) GTC 21 +7.650
77.250mph
19 +11L 55 1:17.661
77.184mph
unknown
Pirelli +5.0kg
CeeJay
 GTN Drivers Club
Lister Storm (#4014) GT1 1 1:09.944
85.699mph
20 +12L 54 1:10.795
84.669mph
unknown
Michelin -25.0kg
Pedro Silva
 Sonic Racing Team
Chevrolet Corvette C5-R (#3106) GT1 13 +4.132
80.919mph
21 +51L 15 1:14.502
80.456mph
unknown
Dunlop -35.0kg
mo
 Kerb Crawlers
Maserati MC12 (#870013) GT1 10 +1.604
83.778mph
22 +53L 13 1:12.146
83.084mph
unknown
Pirelli -40.0kg

Moderator's Report

A number of drivers were using all four wheels on the green tarmac at turn 3. This is technically in breach of the rules but as the game failed to penalise it, and it happened a fair bit at the other Adria events without any attention being drawn to it, we will not be taking any action.


Pedro Silva (who had his lights on unnecessarily, which can cause FPS problems) had very little control over his car on the brakes, running into Madd-RIP, and also hitting Paul968 on the main straight.

This is classic overdriving and is not acceptable. There's no problem if you're slow (within sensible limits, of course), but you absolutely must be able to keep your car on the track and maintain some basic awareness of where another car is when passing or being passed by it - doubly so in an endurance event. It's frustrating for you, and enormously annoying for the drivers who get caught up in your offs.


Server replay time: 253s

Jure jumps the start slightly compared to TrueTom and as a result they go into the first turn with Jure alongside and on the outside. TrueTom, having to take the inside line can't get on the throttle as early or as hard as TT and bumps him into a spin.

Jure waits for TT to rejoin which, whilst sporting, causes more problems than it solves because it dumps him right in the middle of a busy GTC pack. As a result I have assessed a 1 place penalty, reduced from the 3 which would normally be given on the first lap.


Server replay time: 468s

Brian Kerr tags Pedro Silva into an off.

  • Kerr (Brian Kerr)penalty — contact with Pedro Silva — 2 places lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 938s

Pops runs wide and struggles to control the car on the grass just as JR is trying to lap him. Pops comes back onto the track and into the side of JR.

This isn't a case of having gone off an rejoining dangerously, JR sees Pops go off ahead but doesn't slow or move further left in avoidance, and Pops simply loses control, which leads to contact. I'm therefore chalking this up as a racing incident.

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SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR2
GT1
1:09.944
85.699mph
CeeJay
Qualifying
Lister Storm
-25.0kg
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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2007, 02:07:13 AM +0100 »

 Sad Well looks like I'm dead in the water here, 1.15.7 my pb, looks like this track may be my 'Oulton', can't seem to get on with it at all.
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« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2007, 08:43:56 AM +0100 »

Sad Well looks like I'm dead in the water here, 1.15.7 my pb, looks like this track may be my 'Oulton', can't seem to get on with it at all.

I don't think you'll be too far off the pace Madd.

Looks like Paul is (once again) in a league of his own in the GTC's. 1:16.1 is my PB.
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« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2007, 09:40:09 AM +0100 »

Sorry guys but I can't make this one, honest.  angel

Have fun!
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« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2007, 01:40:51 PM +0100 »

BTW, could everyone please practice the pit entry before the race as it's a tad tricky, doubly so if your garage turns out to be near the start of the pit lane. Don't want any spinners on the entry road!

Can anyone confirm exactly where the start of the pit lane speed limit is? Is it at the lights just as you exit the track or round the twisty corners at the start of the garage section? Thats from memory so lights may be wrong place etc..  Grin
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« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2007, 02:55:46 PM +0100 »

Good question. I suspect it's the white line just prior to first pit lane box, tried it few times in a mock up race yesterday, didn't get any penalty if driving too fast up to the point of that white line (not that there's much to gain prior to that, 1st gear stuff anyway  Grin )

BTW, at first I hated this track, now I find it.. rhytmical and that's a plus.

Passing traffic should be OK, except in last (3rd) sector.

But I still think the architect who designed it is obviously highly qualified to design electric go-kart indoor tracks.  Grin

Right. Now for a suggestion: would you gents kindly flash lights when comming out of the pits to let other drivers know you're rejoining S/F straight?

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« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2007, 09:40:56 PM +0100 »

I was late getting back from Leicester so I'm missing this too ..... not a great start for the season for me at all.
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« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2007, 10:30:17 PM +0100 »

That micky mouse track is absolutely useless for mixed class racing IMO.

Spent 76 minutes simply trying to avoid other cars..either lapping, spinning or discoing....no fun at all tonight...may even give the next few a miss....wait for a good circuit.

Grats to winners and podiums
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« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2007, 10:32:59 PM +0100 »

Bummer, Adam. You missed a corker - all the nay-sayers who didn't think the track would work can stick it up their exhaust pipes, I had an absolute corker, despite getting hit from behind twice and finishing off the podium. Early on I raced in a train of 5 cars, and then a thrilling last 10 minutes battling PRibeiro and Popabawa. Grin Grin Grin

Bring on the next two Adria races!
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« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2007, 10:34:08 PM +0100 »

That micky mouse track is absolutely useless for mixed class racing IMO.

I think you've missed the point - there's meant to be constant traffic. I love these shorter circuits, a real test of nerve, situational awareness and multiclass experience.
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« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2007, 10:34:55 PM +0100 »

I DONT BELIEVE IT!!!!!  Was having a blinding race, good qualy (5th) was holding 6th comfortably for first stint, made pit stop and came out 10th? dunno what happened there but then caught Truetom and Jure and was having a battle royale for 5 or 6 six laps. Jure spun out and truetom got me in traffic so was in a good 8th with 20 mins to go and with no warning my engine heath just started plumating with every gear change and died........******

Thats 2 races i was on for good points and somethings gone wrong.

Ah well at least people can see im getting on the pace at races now just gotta finnish them.

Congrats to winners.
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« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2007, 10:37:56 PM +0100 »

The track wasn't as bad as I thought it would be for mixed class racing in terms of being dangerous. Lappees had to be very generous which they were all, thank you very much, but you must have been losing bucket loads of time, was the biggest issue.

Thought this race was going to be a disaster for me, especially after qually where I was two seconds off the pace and finding it hard to wrestle the Viper around this piddling little go-kart track. Race was very smooth and I managed to pass Mo, then sat behind Paul Richards for ages and ages before he had a tangle with a 350Z. After pit stops I had gained 2 places and managed to have enough speed to just keep Brian far enough away as he chased me down in the closing stages to get a bizarre 5th position. Consistancy once again king.  smartass

A couple of oddities about the track. Firstly the sunlight. What was with the sun flare being there the whole race? Also very odd engine health stuff. I opened vent fully for race and still my engine started on only 88%. So I basically took very good care of it for the whole race to make sure it didn't drop too far. Revving only into the red when I need a bit of extra speed.

Overall, I enjoyed racing at that track about as much as having my eyes poked out with a blunt spoon. Italy only has two decent circuits, Misano and Imola and quite frankly I prefer Enna to this place. censored

Well done to Carl and the other podium places in GT1 and also to Madd-Rip and the other podiums places in GTC class. All the GTC boys were fabulous tonight and I had another very clean race.  I Am Not Worthy
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« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2007, 10:38:12 PM +0100 »

jeesh...i dont like that track  Sad

Qual was getting better each time i went around, getting upto 1:16.5 (3rd?) then got disco'd out  Sad  Re-joined with lost times and grabbed a 17.01 to put myself ahead of pops and DG.

Race started disastrously when i got all fingers and thumbs and dropped the car into neutral instead of releasing the pit limiter on the s/f straight Shocked Embarrassed  DG and Pops duly shot right past.  :'(
Then had a cracking fight with Pops, Pribeiro and DG for about half an hour all of us trading places and some fun side by side stuff.
Unfortunately then the GT1's started coming around and whilst chasing Prib hard i let a GT1 through at that nasty kink corner where he then hit the anchors hard to avoid rear ending PR and i went into a spin slamming my own brakes on to miss him  :'( and Pops got back past  Roll Eyes
Was still enjoying the race up until i pitted....then i came out about 40 seconds behind the next car and a whole lap down to Paul968 and Prib  Angry...i was not a happy bunny, even though i guessed early on that Pops and DG were running fuel to the end of the race, i didnt expect to lose that much time to all other GTC cars  :'(
Kinda lost interest then as no way of making up 40 seconds here with 35 mins to go and spent rest of race diving out the way of lapping GT1's.
Had a comedy moment when i got past Prib who was a lap in front but was pitting so he kindly flashed me to stay in front whilst i flashed him back to say 'no after you!'...what PR prob didnt realise was i getting blue flag final warnings unless i let him past !  Shocked Thankfully he dropped right back and i sped off before the stewards felt my coller  Tongue
Well done to Podium guys and good driving by the GT1 boys...that must have been a mare to avoid us GTC's having our own battles on this tight track  Cool
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« Reply #27 on: September 30, 2007, 10:38:16 PM +0100 »

Surprisingly, I quite enjoyed the track Smiley.

Nice quali (new pb for a night race Wink) and all looked set for a ding dong battle with Paul and RIP. That was until some kind soul decided to spin a bit, slide up the inside a lot and barge us off track, thankfully only the once, in his GT1 car. That put an end to any fun and I cruised around 20 sec behind lead battle and 20 ahead of Pops behind me. Real shame Embarrassed

I only had the one problem being lapped and gotta say GT1 boys were great considering the difficulties angel. Congrats to RIP, Paul and Carl.
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« Reply #28 on: September 30, 2007, 10:38:30 PM +0100 »

Yet again 3rd time in a row come qualifying session of upper endurance my connection goes mental. I was sitting 4th at the time and on a quicker lap by a few tenths. A few minutes to go and again I lost connection. This is more than a coincidence, but what is wrong baffles me.

Managed to get back in with a couple of minutes qualifying left. Had a couple of laps and made a big mistake on one, and lost control trying way too hard on the other. I started last!

Did not know how to approach the start with all the GTC cars ahead. I thought since we are racing for position I'm entitled to "overtake" and not look for easy place to lap.

I got past a few cars and was taken back a bit with a lot of door banging. Came through to find Jure in the Lambo had decided to join me at the back. Did a sneaky move when he went one side of a GTC car and I jumped them both on the other.

Managed to climb up to 6th place from last and was catching Simon for 5th. Would have needed a few more laps to get close but getting past is impossible unless he was to make mistake.

Had a few laps chasing TT and a few more him chasing me, other than that nothing of note to report.

Can't say driving 80 minutes on the track has made me feel any different, it's horrible to drive, horrible to lap/overtake and that pit lane is an accident waiting to happen.
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« Reply #29 on: September 30, 2007, 10:40:00 PM +0100 »

Disaster for me at the start, my DFP decided to die in the first practice session, no FF at all. I tried rebooting and everything you'd expect but no luck. I thought I might as well try it with no FF and it was OK, then it came back for a lap in qually, I grabbed 4th on the grid only to get disconnected! Grrr....

It was an exciting race but a pretty poor drive by me, Dave & Pribiero were all over me at the end and I'm just happy I just held on for 4th with no Force Feedback.

Plenty of contact but that was inevitable really, glad to see the back of Adria forever if that's how it works out!
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