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  • L3 Snetterton: October 04, 2007
October 04, 2007, 08:53:58 PM +0100 - Snetterton (Long) - UKGTL Season 3 GT Classics Cup
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#200167) GTC-65 2 +0.198
98.941mph
1 41:15.387
96.961mph
25 1:37.606
98.361mph
Dunlop  
baracus250gt
 Ghostspeed
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#863) GTC-65 3 +0.443
98.692mph
2 +4.062
96.802mph
25 1:37.292
98.679mph
Dunlop  
BACKO
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#863) GTC-65 7 +2.128
97.011mph
3 +30.320
95.788mph
25 1:39.018
96.959mph
Dunlop  
Madd-RIP
 Team RVS
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#863) GTC-65 1 1:36.836
99.143mph
4 (+2) +46.633
95.168mph
25 1:37.583
98.384mph
Dunlop  
ossie
 
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#863) GTC-65 11 +2.768
96.388mph
5 +55.985
94.817mph
25 1:39.204
96.777mph
Dunlop  
Adam Parle
 Legends Racing
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#863) GTC-65 6 +1.385
97.745mph
6 +56.420
94.800mph
25 1:38.543
97.426mph
Dunlop  
pribeiro
 Ghostspeed
Shelby GT350 (#807) GTC-65 14 +3.404
95.777mph
7 (+2) +57.848
94.747mph
25 1:39.725
96.271mph
Dunlop  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#200167) GTC-65 8 +2.299
96.844mph
8 +1:26.537
93.686mph
25 1:39.484
96.504mph
Dunlop  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#863) GTC-65 9 +2.309
96.834mph
9 +1L
92.813mph
24 1:39.691
96.304mph
Dunlop  
picnic
 Team Shark
Austin-Healey 3000 (#200105) GTC-65 15 +3.829
95.372mph
10 +36.025
91.486mph
24 1:40.412
95.612mph
Dunlop  
psuedo
 Team Pseudo Racing
Mercedes 300SL (#455) GTC-65 17 +4.595
94.652mph
11 +52.541
90.890mph
24 1:42.045
94.082mph
Dunlop  
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#863) GTC-65 4 +0.794
98.337mph
12 (+1) +6L 19 1:38.855
97.118mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Steve Holmes
 
Mercedes 300SL (#456) GTC-65 10 +2.332
96.812mph
13 +15L 10 1:40.336
95.685mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#863) GTC-65 13 +3.392
95.788mph
14 +16L 9 1:40.910
95.141mph
unknown
Dunlop  
KL Mallender
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#863) GTC-65 16 +4.130
95.088mph
15 9 1:41.982
94.141mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Aagramn
 Team Shark Junior
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#200376) GTC-65 12 +2.843
96.316mph
16 +18L 7 1:39.774
96.224mph
unknown
Dunlop  
stnasky
 
Shelby GT350 (#880) GTC-65 17 +20L 5 1:42.128
94.006mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#863) GTC-65 5 +1.355
97.775mph
18 +22L 3 1:39.536
96.454mph
DQ
Dunlop  

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Server replay time: 70s

Madd-Rip messes up his start, causing alot of mayhem when almost the whole grid has to swerve around him. Two corners later Madd tries to make up some ground but misses his braking point. He notices that he isn't going to make it and steers on the banking, to try and keep damage to a minimum. He drives into the side of Syd, but there isn't alot harm done there. However, Psuedo gets collected more and goes off, losing some places. Psuedo couldn't have done anything to prevent it as Madd came out of nowhere, many carlenghts behind.
Because the start could also been seen as an incident as it caused people to go off as well I give a 2 places lost for this. 1 place for both incidents.

  • Madd-RIPpenalty — Dangerous start and pushing Psuedo off. — 2 places lost


Server replay time: 98s

Pribeiro is off the racing line when he starts braking. Steve was on the racing line, far infront of Pribeiro and probably did not expect him coming. There was nobody close behind of Steve, so he steered in to claim the apex when Pribeiro comes in with too much speed and drifts Steve off the track. It was at the start of the race so Steve lost around 10 places, by what seemed to be a avoidable incident.
Avoidable and with big consequenses, which results in 2 places penalty.


Server replay time: 127s

Aagramn gets a bit sideways coming out of the Esses and Dan Minton, who has a reasonable view of things, fails to account for this and accelerates into the back of him, spinning him out and then getting taken out himself as Aagramn's out of control car spins back across the track.

I'm only giving out a single place penalty as this was poor judgement rather than outright dangerous or inconsiderate driving.

  • Dan Mintonpenalty — avoidable first lap contact — 1 place lost

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« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2007, 10:13:23 AM +0100 »

I'll be there tonight..with the right track version this time  Roll Eyes

Probably take the Shelby for a change but need to try all available. Seems more a power circuit with more time spent on open throttle than braking/turning.
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« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2007, 01:36:48 PM +0100 »

Anybody else got some times? This track is not listed on either gtlrank or nogrip. I've only driven Ferrari and my best so far is a 1.39.4.

With the GT350 and Merc I was doing 1:40's, but when I tried the Fezza, I did a 1:38.5 in my first lap. So it looks like that car will dominate here Undecided
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« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2007, 02:23:58 PM +0100 »

With the GT350 and Merc I was doing 1:40's, but when I tried the Fezza, I did a 1:38.5 in my first lap. So it looks like that car will dominate here Undecided

Only if all the aliens take it!! Roll Eyes
(Aliens take the slower cars and us normal folk take the faster cars then we can all have a close race!! Undecided)
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« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2007, 02:48:13 PM +0100 »

I'll stick with the GT350. Once I'm infront it will be hard to overtake a sideways Shelby  Grin. Just ask MJ Tongue
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« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2007, 03:34:12 PM +0100 »

Might try one of them yank jobs myself this eve.

Anyone got a decent setup (for humans with two hands, not alien stuff! Tongue ) ?
Failing that i'll give the Fezza and Healey a try out beforehand.
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« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2007, 06:45:11 PM +0100 »

It looks like I won't make it in time for the race. Shame, I'd have enjoyed some Merc on Fezza racing.



Have a good one guys.
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« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2007, 09:03:12 PM +0100 »

Gutted, dont believe it !  Huh Sad

Qualied 5th, looking forward to great race, about 4 laps into the race i am running 5th and enjoying myself, then the car just warped back to my garage mid corner leaving me sitting looking at the timing screens...wtf?  Angry
And it wouldnt even let me rejoin the track, like i was parked up for the duration.

Never had that one happen before !  :'(

Great track, though i hope that isnt an inherent bug in the conversion ?
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« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2007, 09:17:00 PM +0100 »

Was having a great time on the first lap, got a good start and made 4 places cleanly in the melee. Then I got nudged off at the corner after the bridge. Ruined my race, was struggling to catch the cars ahead, and made several mistakes as a result. Reminds why I don't play GTL these days.
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« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2007, 09:20:38 PM +0100 »

Well that was a totally atrocious race! Managed to get up to 5th (from 10th grid) and then someone just ploughed through at the end of the long straight and speared me straight off.  Thanks for that, I was looking forward to fighting a rearguard action against all the Ferraris and at least having a good scrap.  I'll certainly be looking very closely at the replay.  Not quite the nice clean racing I join in for.

Then after restarting near the tail I did my best to close the gap but after encountering a stationary Ferrari (lag) and crashing trying to avoid it I called it a day.

Shame everyone went for the Ferrari, would have been nice to have a little more variety in the field (and they accuse Alfas of being a dull choice Wink), hard to do much against 80% of the grid in a car at least a second quicker  Grin

Bad luck Mark, not sure anyone else had that, and Aagramn, sounds like a familiar story to me  Sad  Hope the survivors enjoyed a good race though.
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« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2007, 09:41:31 PM +0100 »

Missed it  Angry

Back for next week though - hope you all enjoyed  Tongue
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« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2007, 09:47:21 PM +0100 »

Shame everyone went for the Ferrari

He he. I won the Healey class  Grin

Had a good few laps to start with, making 8 places on the 1st lap thanks to people making mistakes. But the Fezza's were too quick for me on the straights and I dropped to a lonely 10th or so before deciding that the track was too easy and the car should be either offroad or an aeroplane  Undecided

Still got to the end  Smiley
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« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2007, 09:49:30 PM +0100 »

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after encountering a stationary Ferrari (lag) and crashing trying to avoid it I called it a day.

Yeah, I encountered that too..just before the bridge...sent me off too but I managed to go wide enough to miss the bridge and take a 'short cut' over the grass.

Must admid wasn't too impressed with some of the passing moves, rejoining and once again had people racing me into the corners from miles back in qualifying. I know nobody likes to be stuck behind a slower driver in quali, but come on folks...we have a right to be there too.

Other than that it was good. didn't make any bad unforced errors and was lapping about the speeds I expected. nice track, would have loved it with more veriety though.

Grats to winner and podium
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« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2007, 09:50:13 PM +0100 »

Was wondering what happened MJ.

My race was alright - the start didn't help - I lost something like 7 places.  I came back through the field strongly though - hit a 1:38.5 once I got some space, but it was mostly in the 1:39 area.

I wa running 5th and closing dowen Shark when he hit the bridge somehow  and I was 4th ... thow on earth did you mess that up??  I found out a few laps later when I had to go round the outside of the bridge on 2 occasions and was back in 7th.  I had a massive tussle with Pribeiro and Ossie - I got the better of Prib - and was all over Ossie like a rash - but couldn't get by and ran out of laps.  I finished 5th, it could have been better.

Still - a good nights racing.

I had a few mistakes that caused outbursts of expletives - you don't want to be asked numberoius questions by your wife when you're sliding at the limit!!!  Think the expletives got me in trouble .... but I've apologised so it's all good.

Shame about your race MJ - we should have had a good fight you and I.
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« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2007, 10:02:23 PM +0100 »

This race actually bothered me, qualified 14th(normal) but with my best time to date, the start was bad, what was going on up there? someone not see the start countdown or what? first turn looked like a demo derby, race is 25 laps gents. once under way it was good for maybe the front stretch till dust is flying again in turn 1, tried to settle down after avoiding spinning cars then Dan M was fast approaching in the mirror, I thought I let off enough for him to pass but seemed like he wasnt going around, now trying to go side by side thru corner, I had poor entry and pushed off to get stuck on mound of grass, found my way back behind Psuedo saw Mark J had left game and thought why would he leave? then I get the Disco. Damm, I'm sorry to fish off like this but I was really looking forward to a good finish today, fish!

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« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2007, 10:02:59 PM +0100 »

I got a blinding start with my manual clutch and moved from 8th to 2nd by turn 1. Turn 2 I was down to 3rd as Baracus took his rightful place back ahead of me, then spent a few laps seeing Backo close me down and after trading places with him, the next lap he had me for real (yo) and I was started to drop back down the order to the position I started in. Then the trouble started. The H-Pattern Shifter kept missing 5th gear and it caused a few problems for me.

I wa running 5th and closing dowen Shark when he hit the bridge somehow  and I was 4th ... thow on earth did you mess that up??

Basically it didn't shift up into 5th and I had neutral, my foot went to the clutch to try and get the gear, by which time the corner was upon me and my foot which should have been on the brake was nowhere near it and I whacked into the bridge. Of course my cheating Ferrari suffered absolutely no damage and once I'd stalled it once more trying to get going and then managed to navigate my way over the huge banks I was down to 10th.

Everytime it missed a gear my arms and hands were struggling to comprehend where they should be to get out of the neutral gear situation and in the end I had absolutely no one to race for the rest of the race (which was well over half of it).

I think that's the last time I'll use the H-pattern, at least for any cars that have more than 4 gears. It's too much like hard work and although feels fun, is much slower for me than paddle shifting and is a danger to myself and others.
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