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October 11, 2007, 08:52:26 PM +0100 - Zandvoort (1948-72) - UKGTL Season 3 GT Classics Cup
Driver
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
baracus250gt
 Ghostspeed
Porsche 906 (#30) GTC-TC-76 2 +0.015
106.378mph
1 39:20.593
102.910mph
26 1:28.458
105.625mph
Michelin  
Bernie Lomax
 Legends Racing
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#200870) GTC-TC-76 10 +1.410
104.715mph
2 +3.262
102.768mph
26 1:29.729
104.129mph
Avon  
pribeiro
 Ghostspeed
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#202551) GTC-TC-76 9 +1.276
104.872mph
3 +4.178
102.728mph
26 1:29.718
104.142mph
Avon  
BACKO
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#89) GTC-TC-76 6 +1.096
105.085mph
4 +10.175
102.468mph
26 1:29.466
104.435mph
Avon  
Madd-RIP
 Team RVS
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#202905) GTC-TC-76 3 +0.239
106.107mph
5 +17.394
102.157mph
26 1:29.345
104.577mph
Avon  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 RSR 2.8 (#200873) GTC-TC-76 12 +2.114
103.895mph
6 +23.524
101.894mph
26 1:30.152
103.640mph
Goodyear  
Phil Gilliland
 
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#89) GTC-TC-76 13 +2.231
103.760mph
7 +47.218
100.892mph
26 1:30.400
103.356mph
Avon  
[POOdle]Keith
 
DeTomaso Pantera (#84) GTC-TC-76 1 1:27.817
106.396mph
8 +1:06.951
100.072mph
26 1:28.489
105.588mph
Avon  
TinMan
 Team Oldie Racing
Porsche 906 (#201441) GTC-TC-76 15 +2.845
103.057mph
9 +1:07.131
100.064mph
26 1:30.597
103.131mph
Michelin  
Wiltshire Tony
 
Porsche 906 (#30) GTC-TC-76 17 +3.209
102.645mph
10 +1:17.137
99.653mph
26 1:31.497
102.117mph
Michelin  
Oilseal
 Team Oldie Racing
Porsche 906 (#201441) GTC-TC-76 20 +4.527
101.180mph
11 +1L
97.720mph
25 1:32.127
101.419mph
Michelin  
will16v
 
BMW CSL Schnitzer (#118121) GTC-TC-76 22 +5.547
100.075mph
12 +9.723
97.324mph
25 1:33.177
100.276mph
Dunlop  
Alex vV
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Ford Escort RS (#74) GTC-TC-76 23 +6.533
99.029mph
13 +58.703
95.377mph
25 1:35.006
98.345mph
Avon  
Steve Holmes
 
Porsche 906 (#30) GTC-TC-76 8 +1.262
104.889mph
14 25 1:29.705
104.157mph
suspension
Michelin  
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#202905) GTC-TC-76 11 +1.704
104.371mph
15 25 1:29.458
104.444mph
suspension
Avon  
ossie
 
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#89) GTC-TC-76 16 +2.899
102.996mph
16 25 1:31.223
102.424mph
unknown
Avon  
psuedo
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#89) GTC-TC-76 21 +4.638
101.059mph
17 +6L 20 1:32.751
100.736mph
unknown
Avon  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
DeTomaso Pantera (#200106) GTC-TC-76 7 +1.176
104.990mph
18 +7L
73.128mph
19 1:29.307
104.621mph
Avon  
ASSASSINO
 Ghostspeed
DeTomaso Pantera (#202552) GTC-TC-76 4 +0.524
105.765mph
19 +14L 12 1:29.498
104.398mph
unknown
Avon  
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#200103) GTC-TC-76 5 +0.731
105.518mph
20 +16L 10 1:29.146
104.810mph
unknown
Avon  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing
Porsche 911 RSR 3.0 (#83) GTC-TC-76 14 +2.492
103.460mph
21 +20L 6 1:31.352
102.279mph
unknown
Goodyear  
madmac
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Porsche 911 RSR 3.0 (#83) GTC-TC-76 18 +3.344
102.493mph
22 +22L 4 1:33.838
99.569mph
unknown
Goodyear  
BillThomas
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 906 (#30) GTC-TC-76 19 +4.525
101.182mph
23 +25L 1 1:52.094
83.353mph
unknown
Michelin  
SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GT Legends
GTC-TC-76
1:27.817
106.396mph
[POOdle]Keith
Qualifying
DeTomaso PanteraOctober 11, 2007, 08:52:26 PM +0100
L3
GT Legends
GTC-TC-76
1:28.458
105.625mph
baracus250gt
Race
Porsche 906October 11, 2007, 08:52:26 PM +0100
L3
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« Reply #45 on: October 11, 2007, 10:06:10 PM +0100 »


Unofficial Lapchart

Grats Bara on the race win and championship Grin
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« Reply #46 on: October 11, 2007, 10:08:08 PM +0100 »

Well  a pb in quali by half a second was good but just not good enough, made a poor start and Assassino got past then got nudged in hairpin, tut tut Steve!  :'(

So I thought Jesus! Its like Groundhog Day! and began a very enjoyable fight back, only to spin the car when Ossie went off (panicked  Roll Eyes ) and had to start all over again!  Cheesy

Basically just got the hammer down and went from virtually last to 5th again, a few more laps and I could have caught Backo up I think but still, no matter.

For me this series has seen some of the closest and hardest driving I have had the pleasure to enjoy, its finally clicked for me and some of the tracks have been brilliant, so congrats to Simon for an excellent season and hopefully a lot more of them.

Grats to the podium, special Congratulations to Baracus and GS, well done.

And I'm very sorry to hear of your terrible news Simon and family, may she RIP.
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« Reply #47 on: October 11, 2007, 10:48:24 PM +0100 »

Sorry to hear that a great season finale had to end with such terrible news.

I want to thank you all for the great racing. It was fun for me to finally find a way to do some clean racing instead of people barging into each other all the time. Furthermore I hope that a wasn't too much in anyone's way since my races usually are at the back of the grid.
I must admit that I -when watching races on TV - actually look how drivers deal with being lapped..

Anyway, I hope that there is another season because I really enjoyed this league... and to score my first championship points on a home track really tops it off.
 
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« Reply #48 on: October 11, 2007, 11:18:23 PM +0100 »

Very sorry to hear your sad news Simon Sad

Doesn't feel right chatting about our "hobby" with real-life matters like that rearing their ugly head...

...but here goes.

I played it safe with the 906 thinking the last thing I needed today was another engine failure. That and the fact I couldn't be at all consistent in the PantScarer. (and I don't drive Ford's out of principle).

Track seems far too bumpy for it and I thought if I could be consistent it would be better than being fast and falling off!

I was pretty determinded to not let my mind wander today... I was seriously feeling the pressure from Jeffster's late charge in the season so really focussed on not making mistakes today. In the end it didn't matter as I saw him leave at some point in the race Sad

Then I just went for it but thought I was going to run out of gas - my mental arithmetic is cruddy so actually I had nothing to worry about but I spent the middle of the race short-shifting which caused me to spin and get stuck on a kurb (change of rhythm threw me not just the short-shifting). Eventualy it rolled down the kerb and back to the road, but I was facing across the track and didn't see Bernie as he flew past to take the lead and I touched his car a bit, sorry about that!!

Was gutted with my mistake but collected myself again and realised at this point I DID have enough petrol so I went for it again and to my surprise managed to get into the lead again (from 4th) in 3 laps I think Cheesy

My heart was racing so much Smiley  A real adrenalin race. What a great race for the last of the season!!

Thanks for your virtual 'champers' guys... it's been really a great season Cheesy

Huge thanks to Simon (and Dave) for organising the events for us all.... muchios gracias Smiley

Now... how do I start that Poll for P&G next season ;P

P.S. Nicely done Bernie on that fine 2nd Smiley   I sense a new threat for next season Wink
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« Reply #49 on: October 12, 2007, 10:17:07 AM +0100 »

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Sorry for your loss Simon.


Managed to get some practice in and ended up in the 911. This is a car I don't usually like but was great fun on this circuit. Started 18th, was up to 12th by lap 4 then got hit from behind in the second corner where nobody in their right mind should be trying to overtake. By another 911 as well! The car didn't handle properly after that and I came off towards the end of the track, smashed the front of the car and it became undrivable. So an afternoon completely wasted because somebody didn't have the patience or common sense to wait for a proper overtaking opportunity.

It wouldn't be so bad if they had the decency to apologise. I am seriously thinking of giving up racing these faster cars. It seems there are far too many people who can put a quick lap in now and again in them but are not capable of setting them up to be consistent and because of this keep ruining others races.
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« Reply #50 on: October 12, 2007, 11:23:33 AM +0100 »

Report his ass !

I've noticed a little bit of crazy driving creeping back into the races now that attendances have gone up. Still a few with that win at all costs or impatience mentality  Sad
Keep it gentlemanly for the classics gents !

Talking of gents, big congrats to Baracus on his well deserved championship, he was dominant this season, well done mate!   clap

And big thankyou to Simon for using some excellent add-on tracks, they have boosted the series superbly. Its a breath of fresh air to compete on some of the classic tracks around the world rather than the over-used stock circuits. thumbup1
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« Reply #51 on: October 12, 2007, 11:59:52 AM +0100 »

Something that struck me the most between driving with you guys and MARA is that your pitting out discipline is a bit "sketchy". I've been overtaken whilst pitting out, often witnessed pit lane speeding and have had drivers declare that they are "pitting out", leave the pit lane, then plant themselves in the middle of the track with fast qualifying cars rapidly approaching
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« Reply #52 on: October 12, 2007, 12:04:16 PM +0100 »

yeah i noticed pitlane discipline has gone down the swanny too. It used to be strict, perhaps the moderators need to start dishing out some virtual slaps to a few inconsiderate drivers.

Who is the moderator for this series anyway? ...strike great vengeance upon thee  Grin
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« Reply #53 on: October 12, 2007, 12:11:10 PM +0100 »

We've also been noticing some problems with add on tracks recently and last night was particulary bad for it. As you came out of the pits the other cars would appear out of nowhere. This happened in GTR2 at Adria too. When this happens it makes being pit out safety even more of an issue. Other than not using addon circuits there's not much we can do about the cars appearing out of thin air problems. Just have to be wary of the fact that cars are coming out of thin air at the fastest bit of the circuit and trying to stay offline is the only way to try and avoid anything untoward.

If you have been overtaken by drivers speeding in the pit lane then please do report it. One stern warning is usually all it takes from a moderator to correct the behaviour. Even though qualifying sessions are not recorded by the replay system these sort of incidents especially should be reported.
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« Reply #54 on: October 12, 2007, 12:18:03 PM +0100 »

i didnt notice any cars 'appearing' last night Simon  Huh

Do you mean other cars in their pitslots or cars coming down the straight?
Either way people should be using 'pit etiquette' anyway and only pulling out on track when clear and/or staying to the pit-side of the track until upto race speed. angel
I also had the odd lap ruined by people trying to race me when i'm on a flyer and they had just emerged from the pits last night...grrr.
Pull over and flash flyers through !  Though last night was a tricky track to move aside, i had to take to the dunes a couple of times to let flyers through Tongue
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« Reply #55 on: October 12, 2007, 12:25:29 PM +0100 »

I did notice cars just  'appearing' when coming out of the pits last night, luckily I always stayed to the right or otherwise it could have been messy.  Shocked
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« Reply #56 on: October 12, 2007, 12:43:14 PM +0100 »

Cars coming down the main straight at full speed would appear about 50 yards from where you were pulling out. The only choice was to drive on the inside and hope you didn't get in anyone's way cause your entry speed to T1 was a lot lower than theres. Same thing happened at Adria. Jeff had the same problem (confirmed over TeamSpeak) and we had quite a few Team Shark guys say the same thing at Adria too.
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« Reply #57 on: October 31, 2007, 07:13:20 PM +0000 »

A fun race has been scheduled tomorrow to test GTL running on the new server.
https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3681.msg60559#new
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