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October 21, 2007, 09:03:30 PM +0100 - Spa (2004-6) - UKGTR Season 6 Lower Endurance
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Roadrunner
 Racin24-7
BMW M3 GTR (#4143) GT2 1 2:20.627
110.811mph
1 1:21:20.182
105.373mph
33 2:20.438
110.960mph
Michelin +5.0kg
Truetom
 Legends Racing
Ferrari 360 GTC (#930008) GT2 8 +1.681
109.502mph
2 +30.831
104.712mph
33 2:22.273
109.529mph
Pirelli -20.0kg
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
BMW M3 GTR (#920001) GT2 3 +0.955
110.064mph
3 +30.900
104.710mph
33 2:22.214
109.575mph
Michelin +85.0kg
Darren Seal
 Legends Racing
BMW M3 GTR (#970008) GT2 2 +0.789
110.193mph
4 +1:24.444
103.581mph
33 2:22.042
109.707mph
Michelin +5.0kg
BACKO
 Team Pseudo Racing
Morgan Aero 8 (#3107) GTC 10 +2.853
108.608mph
5 +1:24.722
103.575mph
33 2:22.329
109.486mph
Michelin +10.0kg
John
 Team Pseudo Racing
BMW M3 GTR (#880052) GT2 9 +1.796
109.414mph
6 +1:35.251
103.356mph
33 2:21.844
109.860mph
Michelin +30.0kg
picnic
 Team Shark
Morgan Aero 8 (#900001) GTC 13 +3.416
108.183mph
7 +1:39.880
103.260mph
33 2:24.333
107.966mph
Michelin -15.0kg
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Nissan 350Z (#990001) GTC 11 +3.048
108.460mph
8 +1:43.815
103.178mph
33 2:24.129
108.119mph
Michelin +38.0kg
Pedro Silva
 Sonic Racing Team
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#980031) GT2 12 +3.317
108.258mph
9 (+17) +2:20.369
102.427mph
33 2:23.333
108.719mph
Michelin +0.0kg
Don
 Legends Racing
BMW M3 GTR (#970008) GT2 16 +3.733
107.946mph
10 +2:22.849
102.377mph
33 2:24.019
108.201mph
Michelin +5.0kg
Finn
 Over The Hill Racing
Ferrari 360 Modena (#4058) GTC 17 +4.300
107.523mph
11 +2:27.585
102.280mph
33 2:25.229
107.300mph
Pirelli +5.0kg
R. Midderhoff
 
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#770046) GT2 6 +1.441
109.687mph
12 +1L
100.834mph
32 2:22.702
109.200mph
Michelin +15.0kg
Madd-RIP
 Team RVS
Porsche 996 GT3 Cup (#510029) GT3 21 +7.832
104.965mph
13 +1:04.870
99.528mph
32 2:28.301
105.077mph
Pirelli +55.0kg
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 996 GT3 Cup (#920013) GT3 20 +7.663
105.085mph
14 +1:08.997
99.446mph
32 2:28.135
105.195mph
Pirelli +30.0kg
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Ferrari 360 GTC (#930008) GT2 7 +1.515
109.630mph
15 32 2:22.779
109.141mph
fuel
Pirelli -30.0kg
pribeiro
 Sonic Racing Team
BMW Z3M (#3115) GT3 25 +11.055
102.735mph
16 +2L
98.566mph
31 2:31.739
102.696mph
Dunlop +0.0kg
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Dodge Viper Competition Coupé (#4115) GT3 23 +9.366
103.892mph
17 +27.167
98.023mph
31 2:30.489
103.549mph
Dunlop +30.0kg
ossie
 
Dodge Viper Competition Coupé (#4115) GT3 22 +9.074
104.094mph
18 +46.872
97.632mph
31 2:29.497
104.237mph
Dunlop -10.0kg
Prof
 Team Shark
Morgan Aero 8 (#900001) GTC 24 +9.503
103.797mph
19 +1:03.063
97.314mph
31 2:31.429
102.907mph
Michelin -15.0kg
jan duijs
 
Ferrari 360 Modena (#3070) GTC 15 +3.705
107.967mph
20 +3L 30 2:24.108
108.134mph
engine
Pirelli +25.0kg
psuedo
 Team Pseudo Racing
Dodge Viper Competition Coupé (#720052) GT3 19 +7.338
105.316mph
21 +6L 27 2:29.153
104.477mph
unknown
Dunlop -10.0kg
Munkez
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ferrari 360 GTC (#760052) GT2 18 +5.383
106.726mph
22 +15L 18 2:26.890
106.086mph
unknown
Pirelli -10.0kg
mo
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 360 Modena (#890013) GTC 14 +3.526
108.101mph
23 +16L 17 2:23.894
108.295mph
unknown
Pirelli +5.0kg
purdie
 Racin24-7
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#890037) GT2 5 +1.210
109.866mph
24 +23L 10 2:23.190
108.828mph
unknown
Michelin +20.0kg
Adam Parle
 Legends Racing
BMW M3 GTR (#970008) GT2 4 +1.071
109.974mph
25 +26L 7 2:22.916
109.036mph
accident
Michelin +5.0kg
Stewprovo
 Kerb Crawlers
BMW M3 GTR (#4142) GT2 26 +30L 3 2:33.237
101.692mph
suspension
Michelin +5.0kg

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Server replay time: 633s

Don and Pedro Silva are heading towards the Busstop. Don brakes at his normal point, but Pedro brakes too late. There was a big gap between drivers when they started braking, so Pedro's view wasn't blocked and there was enough time for Pedro to realise that he wasn't going to make it. Pedro could have easily evaded to the right as there was enough room and the runoff strip. Instead he kept aiming towards the apex and hit Don.

  • Pedro Silva (PEDRO SILVA)penalty — Avoidable and unnecessary rear end shunt. — 2 places lost (plus 7 for penalty points)


Server replay time: 638s

After previous incident between Pedro and Don, Pedro has also spun and is facing the wrong way on the runoff tarmac. At that point John is approaching and Pedro should've been able to see him coming. Still Pedro rejoins the track right infront of John, claiming the place that wasn't his. There is contact and John's car is damaged. But besides that, there isn't much lost and John and Pedro can both continue the race in the same positions they were in. Together with the next incident I'm going to give a 1 place penalty, as there was no major accident, but more of a reminder to the rejoinrules


Server replay time: 786s

A lap later than previous incident, Pedro outbrakes himself and goes on the green runoff. He doesn't spin and can immediatly continue his way. At the point of rejoining he was still a bit ahead of John, and he had to rejoin somewhere. The other option was cutting the busstop completely which also shouldn't be done.
John steers in for the 2nd part of the busstop but that's where Pedro rejoined. John could have known Pedro might have been there and leave some extra room, but...Pedro should have given John his place by lifting off and joining behind John. This was more of a racing incident, but together with the previous one good enough for a 1 place lost.

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« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2007, 12:49:41 PM +0100 »

I'm certainly hoping to be in the race, but my internet connection is playing silly buggers. Sad Again. Angry
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« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2007, 07:12:25 PM +0100 »

You can add weight by adding fuel to the car.
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« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2007, 07:49:40 PM +0100 »

You can add weight by adding fuel to the car.

Doesn't help, cause I start with full tank anyway, so I need to have even more than that. Smiley
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« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2007, 09:37:25 PM +0100 »

Doh!!!  Got a tap from Darren which span me out into a wall and my engine died Sad.  My fault really as I got out of shape and had a very low exit speed.

Up to that point the racing had been .... interesting.

As expected I got alongside Shark at the start courtesy of his lardy M3 and a nice slipstream.  I was too late on the brakes and went onto the grass, letting Shark by and Purdie.  I had a good fight with Purdie for a while until "the tow" came into effect and I got by under braking.  After that I was pulling away a bit, but then a lapse in concentration brought him right onto my bumper.  Never got any rhythm back, got a bit squirrely and then got a tap from Darren...race over.

Totally different feel to the sprint, was never entirely comfortable.  Took ages to string a good lap together in qually.

Could have been a better night, hope the rest of the Legends make up for it with some top placings.
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« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2007, 10:09:08 PM +0100 »

Well after having a stonking race and some great battles with Picnic, Jan and Ruskus amongst others my pitcrew refused to service me again Sad Huh
Its happened at nearly every endurance race last season too, even since my re-install of GTR. Totally infuriating especially when having such fun. Was really looking forward to the stint after the stops to see where everyone's strategies lined up.

Nice racing by everyone as usual  Cool
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« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2007, 10:34:46 PM +0100 »

Was OK although pretty lonesome. Grats all!
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« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2007, 10:37:05 PM +0100 »

Another booooooooooooooooooring endurance race for me. Again being defenseless against everybody and all I could do was wave as people drove past.

BACKO drove off after the start (and when I came behind him after his stop) and when I outbraked myself at the busstop, 3 cars past me as I stayed on the grass. Had no chance of catching them and was left alone in my first stint. After my pitstop it was the same, all alone again.
Car felt awefull so heavy and it was 80 minutes of agony.

Grats to RR on the win and BACKO, but also very well done Pete on 2nd in GTC class Cheesy
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« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2007, 10:48:43 PM +0100 »

Replay available, provisional results etc. above.
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« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2007, 10:56:14 PM +0100 »

That was hard work, managed to scrape a reasonable quali, and then put the power down to much at la Source and spun it.....damn  Sad .

After that I just tried to keep the car consistent without any major cock-ups and tbh started to get into a good rhythm hoping that I could leapfrog those pesky Vipers during the pitstops, luck was on my side and I started to pass them when they began pitting, I just waited until the GT3 leader Ossie pitted then went in the next lap.

A stationary 26 seconds later I left my pits and rejoined just in front of Pseudo and SBG, fight on!  Cheesy
I drove my little tyres off trying to stay in front and after Pseudo went too deep into La Source it was just me and SBG and about 25 minutes left!

We had an awesome scrap and I was fortunate enough  to be in front at the end, chuffed to bits tbh, but those Vipers are damn quick on the straights!

Grats to the GT2 and GTC podium too  Grin
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« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2007, 10:57:00 PM +0100 »

Got to be pleased with that, had 2 horrid sessions at Spa earlier in the week but tonight went well. I think I was a little lucky in qually as I managed a reasonable lap just when the sun seemed to come out for a couple of minutes. Race was generally very consistent for me, only 2 moments of real worry, one with Jan up by rear when I tried to slide sideways round a corner rather than use the normal technique. The other simply running a little wide out of the corner with no name as Martin Brundle calls it.

My pitcrew must have been on some sort of bonus today, I think I was in 11th as I entered the pitlane and 8th when I left it Smiley Sterling effort chaps. I didn't realise that in the pitstops I got the class lead but I knew I was there abouts. Sadly Backo in his very quick Morgan caught and passed me with relative ease. Ruskus, with his 70kg weight penalty over me, and I had similar pace over a lap and I managed to just keep him behind at the end of the 80 mins.

Well done to the class winners.

Did anyone say ballast should not be for success but for outright pace   Suits me Wink
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« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2007, 11:05:20 PM +0100 »



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« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2007, 11:05:59 PM +0100 »

I feel as lucky as Raikonnen!  Grin  Qualified 8th, somehow the car wasn't listening and I never got the fast lap fast enough. I was slow, not a fault of traffic.  Roll Eyes
Race started ok, some memories were coming back when we had some close laps with MJ.  Smiley  Until he outbraked himself and let me by. After that I was chasing Robert for some time, never quite close enough to overtake for a number of laps. Then suddenly I was 3rd and gaining slowly on Shark. Was 3 seconds behind when he decided to pit. Made some laps faster than qualy  Roll Eyes , pitted and came out 2 seconds before Shark.  Cool  Good thing he had to take some fuel.  Tongue  I was also eyeing my fuel. At the start the counter said I could run for 1h 24 minutes. With a long formation lap I thought I had more than enough. After I came outta pit I started shortshifting, just in case. Was doing good, maintaining a gap of 2-3 seconds to the teeth behind.  Wink  But I saw fuel going down and down and I calculated so much I started to make small mistakes and Shark came within 2 seconds.  Shocked  What to do, what to do? If I pit I lose my 2nd place, gawd knows where I'll end then.  Sad  Decided to gamble and it payed off: I came 2nd over the s/f line with only 0,2 litres of fuel !!!  sweatdrop  The car was only spitting and hopping by then.  Grin   So close, Shark, can't wait to see the replay.  Smiley
Too bad for other Legends, most of them were faster than me today, but I saw Adam go out, Darren in the sand and MJ was left out of fuel. Whenever I looked, Don was pitting.  Cheesy
RR is from another galaxy.  alien   Sorry, I don't know who won in GTC.  Embarrassed  Congrats anyway.  Smiley
Good job with the lapping, thank you.  Cool
Good race as usual, Shark.  yes

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« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2007, 11:06:23 PM +0100 »

I managed to qualify in 2nd which was my only highlight.  Embarrassed

The race started well and had soon pulled out a 3.5 second lead over Shark in 3rd, but RoadRunner (Alien  Grin) was way gone by then.  I then made a stupid mistake, missing a gear which put me in the gravel.    This put me pack in 8th and the chase was on...

I managed to get back up to 6th and that's when I caught Adam at Blanchlmont.  He got a bit out of shape and ran wide off the track.  I tried to avoid him as he tried to rejoin, but the speed difference was too great.  Even though it was only a light tap, it sent Adam into a spin..  Sorry mate  Embarrassed  

As I looked back to see if Adam had survived, I got punted from behind, which sent me flying into the sand at the Bus Stop.  I recovered in 9th (I think) but couldn't stop thinking about the previous incident with Adam...  I felt really gutted for Adam when I saw the "Adam has left the game" message.  In fact I nearly quit the game myself.  The only thing that stopped me was the thought of losing the team points..

I made my way back up to 6th before my pitstop at halfway (which I totally bodged).  I must have lost over 20 seconds because MJ leap-frogged me and now had a 12 second lead....

I thought I was going to finish in 5th with Backo putting me under real pressure (great driving mate), but on the final corner I passed MJ who had run out of fuel..  Bad luck..  you deserved 4th more than me...


Well done to TT for 2nd and once again sorry to Adam, for helping to end your race early.   Embarrassed
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« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2007, 11:12:09 PM +0100 »

As expected I got alongside Shark at the start courtesy of his lardy M3 and a nice slipstream.  I was too late on the brakes and went onto the grass, letting Shark by and Purdie.  I

LOL. The only thing I bother warming up on the pace lap is with a few corners to go I get the brakes red hot with 1st/2nd gear trail braking (full throttle and full brake at the same time soon warms them up). The M3 with a full tank of fuel, 25kg car ballast and 60kg success ballast was not at all a thing of beauty on lap 1 which gave you a great run up the first straight, but I half expected you to not quite make the corner, so just stayed cool and took the place back when it actually happened. Nice try. Tongue

Ok onto the rest of the event...

I have to say that was one of my best ever qualifying performances. Managed 3rd on the grid, but it was the fact that I eeeked the last bit of juice from that M3. I really believe there is no way I could have gone faster with the extra ballast and interesting damp conditions, which is something I don't normally say after qualifying.

I would actually say that Spa is the M3's best circuit. It just seems to suit it 100%, you get great drive out of the corners, it's got a lot of corner grip and it's good down the straights. It was an absolute joy to drive and however I'd worked the setup it was just spot on and so easy to drive. The setup rode the curbs, it wasn't lairy, it was grippy, just top notch and made my job a lot easier. With the extra ballast my biggest problem was the new bus stop. I was losing time there every lap cause I had to brake that little bit earlier and the extra weight made it harder to chuck around the twisty tight chicane.

At the start of the race I had Adam and Purdie in close attention, but after I got confident I slowly pulled away and eventually built up a 10 second lead to the next car. Nearer the pit stops I think Truetom had made his way up the field and had closed to within 6 seconds of me. I pitted at half distance to top up to 60 litres and put on a new set of mediums. The pit crew did an excellent job and I was out in good time. Unfortunately for me Truetom's crew did an even better job and he jumped me in the pits (great job TT!). This left me with a deficit of about 3 seconds.

From that point on the race just got better. At first I stabilised the gap at about 3.5 seconds and wanted to see how fast Truetom was capable of, not wanting to ruin my tyres early on in the second stint. We were running almost identical pace so it was tenths here or there and went up and down a little as we lapped other cars, but still it was at about 3, 3.5 seconds. Eventually I started thinking, well he's not getting away and there's 10->15 minutes to go and it's only 3 seconds, so I drove like an absolute demon from then on in. I really threw caution to the wind and drove an exciting last 10 minutes trying to close him down. Slowly but surely I was taking the time off him. Boy was it fun pushing as hard as I could. Normally I'm quite conservative in my driving in Endurance, but this time I gave it absolutely everything in an effort to catch him, I really could not have gone any faster.

Eventually with 2 laps to go I was really getting close and I could almost sniff the bad cologne angel. 1 lap to go and I was right on him. However, I'd spent the whole time catching I hadn't really thought out what I was going to do if I did catch him and with 1 lap left it was the grand showdown.

2 corners to go and I thought about a move into the bus stop as I saw him lock up there the previous lap. It wasn't quite on so I backed off to get a run into the final hairpin. With superior exit speed from the bus stop I pulled along side, Truetom went defensive and blocked the inside and I went to the outside to try and go the long way round. We exited La Source neck and neck but with TT having the inside advantage and less distance he just edged ahead and then the final run down to the start finish line as I powered down and awww oooohh it was just sooo close, I think I lost out on the 2nd place by half a car length.  Shocked

It was an absolutely thrilling finale to the race. Hats off to Truetom who didn't buckle under the pressure and a deserved 2nd place. That was another of our classic battles.

I absolutely enjoyed every lap of that race. I had 2 overtaking moments the entire race so it wasn't exactly action packed, but it was just an absolutely thrilling race and exactly why I love endurance racing. Spa really is the king of current F1 circuits, the only blotch being that awful bus stop which just kills the flow of the circuit.

No idea where the leader was at the end, but with 80kg difference in ballast there was no chance to fight for the win. Deserved win to Roadrunner who showed great pace, congrats.

Also grats to Backo for the GTC win and Pete for an excellent 2nd position in GTC with Ruskus a very creditable 3rd in the 350Z (this is about the worst circuit for the 350Z, it really doesn't suit Spa at all), that's a fantastic and well deserved result to you all.

Finally well done to Madd-RIP on the GT3 win, SBG for 2nd and an excellent 3rd for Priberio in the BMW Z3M. That's an outstanding result for that car at Spa.

Unfortunately I'm on holiday for the next round, so my lead will certainly be severly reduced come the round after. :'( Almost certainly the team title in GT2 is a foregone conclusion for the Legends with me missing the next round and only one Team Shark car to get points anyway, I will congratulate you now on an excellent team effort.
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« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2007, 11:18:14 PM +0100 »

Almost 80 mintutes of continual battling, great fun.

managed to scrape a reasonable quali, and then put the power down to much at la Source and spun it.....damn  Sad .

I think that "strategy" might have actually got you past me Wink. Whilst you dropped back and got in some consistent laps, I was busy having much fun with the Vipers. Tops stuff with Pseudo, Ossie and just for good measure Monkez in the fezza as well. Sorry for occasional taps Bob, but I was only quicker than you chaps in the really tricky sections which made passing virtually impossible. Hence I lost quite a bit of time and 1st place to Madd after pitstop.

Tried pressuring Madd as much as I could. but first he just hung on then eventually pulled away for a deserved win Smiley. Good stuff.

Lapping seems to be fine as long as you don't arrive having a close race of your own. Then little patience is shown which is annoying, if predictable. Outside that it was perfect  angel

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