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  • L4 Misano: January 10, 2008
January 10, 2008, 08:54:29 PM +0000 - Misano (GP) - UKGTL Season 4 GT Classics Cup
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
AC Cobra 427 (#859) GTC-65 1 1:47.925
83.521mph
1 38:28.824
81.987mph
21 1:48.776
82.867mph
Dunlop  
[POOdle]Keith
 
AC Cobra 427 (#887) GTC-65 3 +0.522
83.119mph
2 +16.417
81.408mph
21 1:49.159
82.577mph
Dunlop  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
AC Cobra 427 (#859) GTC-65 5 +1.303
82.525mph
3 +19.040
81.317mph
21 1:49.470
82.342mph
Dunlop  
baracus250gt
 Ghostspeed
Lotus Elan 26R (#202555) GTC-65 2 +0.299
83.290mph
4 +19.505
81.300mph
21 1:49.480
82.335mph
Dunlop  
Madd-RIP
 Team RVS
Lotus Elan 26R (#202955) GTC-65 6 +1.859
82.107mph
5 +43.882
80.458mph
21 1:49.884
82.032mph
Dunlop  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing
AC Cobra 427 (#887) GTC-65 7 +1.885
82.087mph
6 +44.452
80.438mph
21 1:49.985
81.957mph
Dunlop  
stnasky
 
Lotus Elan 26R (#601) GTC-65 12 +3.076
81.206mph
7 +48.682
80.294mph
21 1:50.403
81.646mph
Dunlop  
Steve Holmes
 Legends Racing
AC Cobra 427 (#200868) GTC-65 4 +1.108
82.672mph
8 +54.448
80.098mph
21 1:49.536
82.293mph
Dunlop  
will16v
 Prodigy Racing
Lotus Elan 26R (#118123) GTC-65 16 +3.747
80.718mph
9 +1:02.036
79.842mph
21 1:51.248
81.026mph
Dunlop  
TinMan
 Team Oldie Racing
Lotus Elan 26R (#201488) GTC-65 11 +2.981
81.276mph
10 +1:04.750
79.751mph
21 1:51.375
80.934mph
Dunlop  
ossie
 
Lotus Elan 26R (#126312) GTC-65 15 +3.728
80.732mph
11 +1:24.962
79.077mph
21 1:51.534
80.818mph
Dunlop  
evert blommert
 
Lotus Elan 26R (#202555) GTC-65 14 +3.700
80.752mph
12 +1L
77.914mph
20 1:52.265
80.292mph
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Prodigy Racing
Lotus Elan 26R (#118123) GTC-65 20 +5.644
79.370mph
13 +7.856
77.650mph
20 1:52.618
80.040mph
Dunlop  
mr_oily
 Prodigy Racing
Lotus Elan 26R (#653) GTC-65 17 +4.512
80.169mph
14 +8.235
77.637mph
20 1:52.216
80.327mph
Dunlop  
Blunder
 Team Oldie Racing
TVR Griffith 400 (#201477) GTC-65 18 +4.987
79.832mph
15 +33.718
76.795mph
20 1:54.257
78.892mph
Dunlop  
Alex vV
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
TVR Griffith 400 (#855) GTC-65 24 +7.537
78.069mph
16 +58.595
75.989mph
20 1:55.852
77.806mph
Dunlop  
Sandor M
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Lotus Elan 26R (#653) GTC-65 19 +5.543
79.441mph
17 +1:16.166
75.431mph
20 1:54.226
78.914mph
Dunlop  
Ade
 
Lotus Elan 26R (#601) GTC-65 22 +6.198
78.985mph
18 +1:19.379
75.329mph
20 1:54.049
79.036mph
Dunlop  
Adam Parle
 Legends Racing
AC Cobra 427 (#200868) GTC-65 8 +2.597
81.558mph
19 +6L 15 1:50.815
81.343mph
unknown
Dunlop  
[POOdle]andyq
 
AC Cobra 427 (#887) GTC-65 10 +2.645
81.523mph
20 +10L 11 1:51.176
81.079mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Mr.BMW
 Prodigy Racing
TVR Griffith 400 (#179414) GTC-65 21 +5.658
79.360mph
21 11 1:53.652
79.312mph
unknown
Dunlop  
jan duijs
 
TVR Griffith 400 (#879) GTC-65 23 +6.939
78.475mph
22 +11L 10 1:54.278
78.878mph
unknown
Dunlop  
pribeiro
 Ghostspeed
Lotus Elan 26R (#202555) GTC-65 13 +3.439
80.942mph
23 +18L 3 1:51.968
80.505mph
unknown
Dunlop  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
TVR Griffith 400 (#879) GTC-65 9 +2.643
81.524mph
+21L 0 ---
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suspension
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 44s

Sponsored spins under start and is then hit by Martin on the far right side of the track.

Take more care during starts. Because I think Martin could've tried more to avoid I'll only give a warning for this.


Server replay time: 51s

Jebstone passes Wiltshire just before turn one. He then tries to pass Andy going into turn one, but at the same time cuts Wiltshire off. As he's just passed Andy's rear bumper with Jebstone's front bumper, Andy start his turn-in. Andy's the pushed out by Jebstone, and Wiltshire is forced in by Jebstone.

  • Mr.BMW (Jebstone Boppman)penalty — Over-Ambitious Overtake — 2 places lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 2333s

Madd is trying to pass Syd and Syd is trying to keep Madd behind him. Syd driver a bit defencive by changing his line multiple times. the changes aren't big, but it makes it difficult for other drivers to predict where he's going at times.


Server replay time: 2334s

Madd rear-ends Syd under braking. The two has been fighting for some time, but in this particular corner entry Madd is closer than usual and Syd brakes normally ealier than Madd. Just before this contact Syd is Weaving from side to side in the middle of the track, making it difficult for Madd to predict where he intended to go.

  • Madd-RIPwarning — Rear End Shunt

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GT Legends
GTC-65
1:47.925
83.521mph
Jeffrey
Qualifying
AC Cobra 427January 10, 2008, 08:54:29 PM +0000
L4
GT Legends
GTC-65
1:48.776
82.867mph
Jeffrey
Race
AC Cobra 427January 10, 2008, 08:54:29 PM +0000
L4
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« Reply #45 on: January 10, 2008, 09:42:36 PM +0000 »

I was airborn into T1 and that was it for me.

the car wasn't to responsive afterwards. I caught up to 22nd place around lap 9, but the tyres quickly degraded and by lap 12 I literally was sliding off of every turn. Decided to retire before I slid into the front runners.

Probably a bad choice to pick the TVR overall, as I didn't get a stable setup untill this morning - but it's to much fun!
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« Reply #46 on: January 10, 2008, 09:45:07 PM +0000 »

Did a PB in qually and just got into the 47's.

Had a pretty good start, but I was lucky to have a clear track infront. From the start I could win around 0.7s a lap on Keith, so it was a matter of keeping it on the black stuff (eventhough we Dutch love the green stuff  Roll Eyes).
I saw you were struggling Adam, you had some funny looking fishtail moments Smiley.

By the sounds of it PR, it's lag. Of someone can hit you that hard it's often because the don't see you.

Dan: WE ARE USING THE 1.1 PATCH!!!! smartass
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« Reply #47 on: January 10, 2008, 09:47:30 PM +0000 »

..so it was a matter of keeping it on the black stuff

Thanks for the drifting class. Quite fun to see you get sideways when you overtook me... and disappeared in the distance...  Smiley
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« Reply #48 on: January 10, 2008, 09:50:11 PM +0000 »



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« Reply #49 on: January 10, 2008, 09:51:47 PM +0000 »

Thanks for the drifting class. Quite fun to see you get sideways when you overtook me... and disappeared in the distance...  Smiley

Yeah I was having some fun the last few laps Smiley. Better to force the oversteer yourself than let the car decide and get taken by surprise Grin
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« Reply #50 on: January 10, 2008, 10:02:03 PM +0000 »

That was good fun. Don't know why but I really like the Cobra despite my loathing of most of the American cars. For some reason I just get on with the Cobra, it seems to have a lot of feel for a big old brute and that's what makes it fun to drive.

Qualified well ahead of my expectations in 5th and off the line I took two Elans to end up in 3rd after Lap 1.

Spent half the race sat behind the Poodle with no way by and Baracus breathing down my neck, was hard to watch front and rear so closely for so long. Eventually I got along side Poodle down the start finish straight and I tried to go around the outside of T1 thinking we had enough room, but surprise surprise I came off the worse as the cars seemed to lock their door handles together. After that I was pushing too hard to catch back up and that was in turn slowing me down. Eventually I got some rythum back and stopped trying so hard and was catching slowly Poodle and Baracus. I wasn't going to catch them, but kindly Baracus wanted to mow the lawn with 2 laps to go and I nipped through to take 3rd.

Great result for me. Loved the track it's got such a nice flow to it I think and lots of different corner types.
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« Reply #51 on: January 10, 2008, 10:18:00 PM +0000 »

That was majorly hard work but great fun!
Got a crud start becuse I couldnt hear my own engine with all the Cobra's around me, so I changed up to 2nd too early and got a bit of a wobble on.... 2nd to 4th. I doubt it would have made any difference anyway as the Cobras would have passed me before T1 anyway ! Smiley

Then a very close race with Simon and Keith for the whole duration. Every time I was tucked up behind in the apex and ready to accelerate, I couldn't do it so I was stuck! I was trying to find creative lines so that I could actually get a run out of the bend and maybe get enough alongside to get into the next turn first but there was no way! Those Cobras so wide Smiley

Penultimate lap somehow the car span out in T3 (tight left) still don't know why as I wasn't sliding and tyres were not RED, so gave my previously handed P3 right back :0

Great battle really enjoyed it!
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« Reply #52 on: January 10, 2008, 10:31:25 PM +0000 »

Disappointing race for me   Tongue

First time in ages I lost places off the line, from 4th, forgot what a high 1st gear the Cobra had and simply bogged down.  Idiot!   Roll Eyes

Then in the melee that was T2 I was harpooned out of, about 7th, right into gravel, rejoined in 17th.  I was slightly annoyed, but since it sounds like a connection issue, such is life.

Managed to drive through to 7th, although the tyres took more of a beating than I wanted.  On the way I got by Adam and then 2 corners later gave a good demonstration of a lead right foot and powered off entering the s/f straight   Cheesy

Tootling round in 7th with no acceleration at all, 30% diff and worn tyres was sliding all over the place, and as I seem to do with the tricky V8s I totally tightened up thinking 'ooh, last lap' and instead of powering through T3/4, I got tentative on the power and understeered serenely wide so Mark nipped through.  I think he may have deserved 7th anyway, as when I got by he had run wide after flashing thanks to a lappee and I guess lost concentration.

Still, pretty disappointing considering what I'd expected.  Must try to remember not to drive V8s........

Congratulations to the podium guys, nice driving.

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« Reply #53 on: January 11, 2008, 09:02:01 AM +0000 »

I am relieved that nobody, based on gossip so far, got tangled up in my gymnastics off the line. Thats the first time I've made a great start and typically someone was dozing in front of me  Cheesy

Gutted not to take part really as the TVR was a complete blast and I really wanted to take a few of those nasty Cobras. A TVR vs Cobra battle should be part of every GTL season Kiss. Gotta say that was a really good track choice Simon, ta.
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« Reply #54 on: January 11, 2008, 10:28:25 AM +0000 »

Had a great start and was making up loads of places until A stationary car appeared right in front of me! Orange TVR!?
Second race on the trot that someone elses lag has caused me issues!?
Luckily no damage this time but was last to leave the first straight!
May have given someone a minor bump from behind in turn 1, sorry but I don't think that caused any issues!
Really can't seem to get a set up that I am happy with but did make up some places and keep it together to get back to 15th having started 18th.
Can't complain! Smiley but was way off the pace!

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« Reply #55 on: January 11, 2008, 01:48:41 PM +0000 »

I had a very good quality session and a great race too Smiley

Had a fairly poor start off the line – I managed to bog the Cobra down slightly > still by T1 I was in 2nd so the progress was made. I kept with Jeff for the opening laps…but Jeff was edging out a larger & larger gap from lap 4'ish onwards. It was either try to close the gap by taking  risks and probably totally destroy my tyres in the process or just drive with a P2, P3, P4 finish mind. I selected the later option. 

Still by lap 10’sih  the tyres didn’t seem too clever…I had both Baracus & Simon hunting me down and the pressure was on.  Holding off Baracus was my greatest challenge of the race…as we all know he’s a fast driver, my tyres where rather worn…even keeping in front on the straights was becoming hard work > still lucky for me the times Baracus did pass me..directly after there would be a nice piece of straight – so I was just able to gas the 427 up and blast past back into p2  Smiley
Both Simon and Baracus made mistake toward the end…and the last few laps I had a nice juicy gap, phew.

21 laps in a Corba and p2 finish, I’m so HAPPY  Smiley


Grats to Jeff – another fantastic drive. Baracus – whatta great quail session getting p2!! (actually at the end of the quail session my money would have been on Baracus to win the race). Great performance from Simon, who had me checking my mirrors enough times!

The dudes I lapped where gents – thanks to them for checking their mirrors & moving off-line, etc.

Cheers all,  Keith
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« Reply #56 on: January 11, 2008, 01:59:22 PM +0000 »

I had both Baracus & Simon hunting me down and the pressure was on.  Holding off Baracus was my greatest challenge of the race…as we all know he’s a fast driver,

Whereas Simon, with his 10 UKGTR drivers trophies, 3 UKGPL drivers trophies and countless team trophies is not known for being fast at all. Tongue Wink No challenge at all keeping me behind. Wink
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« Reply #57 on: January 11, 2008, 05:59:01 PM +0000 »

Yes, I agree completely.    Kiss

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« Reply #58 on: January 11, 2008, 06:28:06 PM +0000 »

Whereas Simon, with his 10 UKGTR drivers trophies, 3 UKGPL drivers trophies and countless team trophies is not known for being fast at all. Tongue Wink No challenge at all keeping me behind. Wink
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Do they give that with a Happy Meal now as wel? Grin
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« Reply #59 on: January 11, 2008, 07:37:14 PM +0000 »

Whereas Simon, with his 10 UKGTR drivers trophies, 3 UKGPL drivers trophies and countless team trophies is not known for being fast at all. Tongue Wink No challenge at all keeping me behind. Wink
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Do they give that with a Happy Meal now as wel? Grin

Can I have supersized fries with that?
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