UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance - Hockenheim (GP) - Nov 11

[Kerr]

Looking at times I lost 2 sec to CJ on in lap, 25 secs during pit stop/out lap.

I was slightly quicker than Ruskus on the in lap and lost 18 secs in the pit/out lap.

Freq was 2 secs quicker in lap and 9 secs quicker in the pit.

Even 9 secs is too much, strange since we were in the same car and I can't see how I'd lose 9 seconds without knowingly doing something wrong.

To drop back a further 25 seconds is a huge amount. I can't see how I lost it nor can I see how to gain more time in the pits.

The main problem with the Lambo is the high fuel usage. It usually about 175L per race some are 190L to be safe, so I really have no scope to work a strategy

[Paul Richards]

Brian do you remember what the clock said as you left the pits? I am not sure if it is the time when the pit options appear or from when you press enter until the finish, although is doesn't take long to press enter though! Mine was 48 seconds. I will turn on the option to see everyone elses pit crew and check yours for wrinkles and zimmer frames 

[Paul968]

Brian - did you request a pitstop?

[Kerr]

Yes I requested a pit stop, always do. Pit crew were waiting for me to arrive. Stopped in right place too.

Pit stop was 60.0secs for 67l of ful and new tyres. Clearly where you gained the time on me Paul, but you must have put in as much fuel as me.

[Paul968]

I was in GTC and needed no fuel. Last night was the first time I had ever requested a pitstop, and it certainly helped. I expect this explains how I gained over Darren. I think the reason I gained at Spa was because Darren's pit box was right at the start of the pitlane and I was right down the other end. My guys would have had a lot longer to get ready as the trigger is entering the pitlane (if you don't request).

I did a few tests, and it looks like the request saves around 5 seconds - a tyres only stop works out at approx 22.5 seconds stationary. Paul R reckons you need to request in the 2nd half of the lap.

[Paul Richards]

yep I always request a stop about half way round the lap I am coming in at the end of. I think once at a long track like Spa I requested as I crossed the start finish line and when I came into the pits they were coming out. I guess it took too long for me to get round. I have forgotten to come in a couple of times after requesting and it gets a bit confused so doing it half way round gives them plenty of time to come out but without time enough to go back in again or me to forget! I think it also gets confused it you request a stop and then get the 5ltrs left 'come in message'. If you pit request twice the second one cancels the first so I wander if you request then get the fuel low message it could cancel it. It works the other way around I think if you get the low fuel message then request a stop manually I think it cancels. 

On the odd occasion when I have ducked in at the last second without requesting a stop even if they manage to get out I find they mill around for a few seconds before putting the pumps in. I wander if there is a set time they need to get ready which isn't tied into the animations or something.

I was filling to 70ltrs Brian but came in with 20 still in the tank so was actually filling 50ltrs, was yours was similar?

[Paul968]

I just tried it (Lambo, 70L fuel + tyres) and I was getting 49-50 seconds stationary.

[Paul968]

Btw, is there a reason why SBG has a Hungary flag against his name?

[psuedo]

is there a reason why SBG has a Hungary flag against his name?

I bet he forgot to have his dinner again....

[Joss]

Unfortunately thats the last eve for me in enduros for a while, i just havent got the spare time and so i am reluctantly quitting the series.  :'(

FreQ, I presume you want his place?

Ta muchly

[Jure]

Pit stop was 60.0secs for 67l of fuel and new tyres. Clearly where you gained the time on me Paul, but you must have put in as much fuel as me.

Strange. 

I've changed all 4 tyres and put in 88L of fuel, that's 21 more then you did, Brian (minus 3.8L that I still had in the car).

21L = 7 seconds longer pitstop (give or take, roughly 3 L per second). Or 6 seconds due to fuel left in the car from 1st stint.

And still got out in 57.6 secs (including 5.9 seconds for damage repair, I print screen pitstop board for further analysis. Perhaps you had some repairs done?).

Also - are you sure you've stopped right on the mark? I still believe that positioning of the car DOES matter. Am also sure I DID NOT stop right on the money, had to get in a bit sideways since pit-box in front of mine was occupied by a F360 which makes your pit stop time even stranger since I'm sure mine was far from being optimal.

I suggest you check the replay to see where and how you've stopped, we need to get to the bottom of this. 

Oh yeah, pit-in requested right after getting out of T1.

[Rob Bywater "Kerb Crawlers"]

I had a decent enough race consistence wise. Quallied well with a PB, low 43`s, and started better than normal (usually come off within first couple of laps!!), lasting 10 laps before my first off. To be honest this was my fault as I got involved with a GT entering the hairpin and ended up spinning it. In my frustration I chased as hard as I could and ended up rear ending Luis Branco at the entrance to the stadium  , really sorry about that Luis, completely my fault! That sent us both off, and left me dead last. Managed to chase down Martin, but was pushing too hard and ended up getting a stop/go for cutting too much of T1. So that was that.

Overall was quite pleased as my progress continues, who knows, I might complete tonights race with no offs at all!

Congrats to PaulR, Paul968 and SBG for excellent finishes. Nice to see us stretching our lead at the top of the GTC!   

Cheers

Rob

[CeeJay]

That was an intense race, just miffed I didn't got the result I deserved, but obviously Freq drove a great and mistake free race so his win was equally deserved.
At racestart car wasn't working well, fueled to the brim and pretty cold track with medium tires it just slightly cornered better than a beam of light, so felt it was sheer luck I only lost one position in the opening laps.
After a while and burning off 20L or so it started to work much better, and when Kerr spun I was back in 2nd albeit 6s behind P1. But didn't loose ground from then on and even closed some before pitstop probably due to traffic so I knew that was a big chance to get out again in front. I wasn't sure about how many laps so I probably ended up pitting a few laps too late, finished with 3 laps of fuel. And there was a gaggle of GTC cars up ahead so I really wanted to get in sooner to avoid that. When all had pitted then I had 12s lead and car felt good now. gap was pretty consistent but then with 10min left I had a lazy spin in the Sachs curve going inside a backmarker which spun the car around and gap got down to less than 4s, was still pretty confident to keep that lead but soon traffic played a big part and the gap just vanished to less than a sec. Getting frustrated about behind stuck behind slower cars at wrong places I ended up pushing too hard out of the hairpin and lost the lead. So close, but can only really blame my poor preperation for not checking number of laps and getting fuel correct. It takes about 4s per 10L, and that was 4s that couldve come in handy heh

[popabawa]

Apologies for missing the race, I got back from a week on holiday to find my broadband connection playing up and disconnecting every few minutes making an endurance race impossible.

I'm really disappointed to have missed the last two races but fingers crossed I'll make the remaining events