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November 13, 2007, 09:00:25 PM +0000 - Hockenheim (GP) - UKGTR Season 6 Lower Sprint
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
purdie
 Racin24-7
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#890037) GT2 2 +0.416
101.732mph
1 40:01.869
97.757mph
23 1:40.755
101.322mph
Michelin +0.0kg
Paul Richards
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 360 GTC (#880013) GT2 5 +0.668
101.477mph
2 +4.278
97.583mph
23 1:41.225
100.851mph
Pirelli -20.0kg
Roadrunner
 Racin24-7
BMW M3 GTR (#4143) GT2 3 +0.646
101.499mph
3 +4.621
97.569mph
23 1:41.375
100.702mph
Michelin +40.0kg
Truetom
 Legends Racing
Ferrari 360 GTC (#930008) GT2 6 +0.794
101.350mph
4 +11.257
97.301mph
23 1:41.266
100.810mph
Pirelli -30.0kg
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#990008) GT2 4 +0.656
101.489mph
5 +13.773
97.199mph
23 1:41.215
100.861mph
Pirelli +0.0kg
Madd-RIP
 Team RVS
Mosler MT900R (#520029) GTC 11 +1.686
100.460mph
6 +25.152
96.744mph
23 1:42.077
100.009mph
Dunlop -5.0kg
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Mosler MT900R (#880001) GTC 9 +1.437
100.707mph
7 +26.760
96.680mph
23 1:42.354
99.739mph
Dunlop +75.0kg
Stewprovo
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#980013) GT2 8 +1.386
100.758mph
8 (+2) +44.653
95.973mph
23 1:42.378
99.715mph
Michelin +0.0kg
Darren Seal
 Legends Racing
Morgan Aero 8 (#860008) GTC 15 +2.314
99.843mph
9 +55.146
95.563mph
23 1:43.189
98.932mph
Michelin -15.0kg
Paul968
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS (#930013) GTC 7 +1.149
100.994mph
10 +57.353
95.477mph
23 1:42.081
100.005mph
Michelin +55.0kg
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Nissan 350Z (#990001) GTC 13 +2.125
100.028mph
11 +57.770
95.461mph
23 1:42.729
99.375mph
Michelin -37.0kg
pribeiro
 Sonic Racing Team
Porsche 911 GT3-RS (#3069) GTC 14 +2.313
99.844mph
12 +1:01.089
95.332mph
23 1:42.841
99.266mph
Dunlop +10.0kg
Blunder
 Team Oldie Racing
Mosler MT900R (#660014) GTC 23 +4.467
97.784mph
13 +1:41.169
93.806mph
23 1:44.287
97.890mph
Dunlop +15.0kg
baracus250gt
 Racin24-7
Ferrari 360 GTC (#880037) GT2 14 +1:59.077
93.139mph
23 1:40.706
101.371mph
Pirelli *-10.0kg
bernie_eccle
 
BMW M3 GTR (#4142) GT2 16 +2.324
99.833mph
15 +1L
92.118mph
22 1:44.549
97.645mph
Michelin +25.0kg
spanner
 
Mosler MT900R (#3101) GTC 22 +4.106
98.123mph
16 +7.029
91.853mph
22 1:45.181
97.058mph
Dunlop -5.0kg
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Mosler MT900R (#520029) GTC 17 +2.496
99.666mph
17 +2L 21 1:42.721
99.382mph
fuel
Dunlop -5.0kg
stnasky
 
Mosler MT900R (#3101) GTC 20 +2.923
99.252mph
18 +6L 17 1:43.144
98.975mph
unknown
Dunlop +35.0kg
Munkez
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ferrari 360 GTC (#760052) GT2 21 +3.760
98.451mph
19 +7L 16 1:44.519
97.673mph
unknown
Pirelli -30.0kg
Kerr
 Team Shark Junior
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#960003) GT2 1 1:39.933
102.155mph
20 +11L 12 1:40.925
101.151mph
unknown
Michelin +30.0kg
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Morgan Aero 8 (#900001) GTC 10 +1.555
100.590mph
21 12 1:41.940
100.144mph
unknown
Michelin -15.0kg
psuedo
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ferrari 360 Modena (#890052) GTC 18 +2.536
99.627mph
22 +13L 10 1:43.802
98.347mph
unknown
Pirelli +5.0kg
picnic
 Team Shark
Morgan Aero 8 (#900001) GTC 19 +2.687
99.480mph
23 +14L 9 1:42.810
99.296mph
suspension
Michelin -15.0kg
BACKO
 Team Pseudo Racing
Morgan Aero 8 (#3107) GTC 12 +1.983
100.167mph
+23L 0 ---
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unknown
Michelin +15.0kg

Moderator's Report

Baracus250GT started with a different driving name from the one the ballast system expected, and was thus 25kg lighter than he should have been.

This was a genuine mistake, and this being the first sseason we've run driver ballasts, also without precedent, a penalty must be applied, but will not carry any penalty points as it was not a driving standards violation.

The penalty has, somewhat arbitrarily been calculated as a time in seconds added on which is equal to the race length in minutes, multiplied by the multiples of 10 kilograms underweight; that gives 40*(25/10), or 100 seconds.

This may be a little harsh but the system clearly states the expected driving name in the same place as the event's password, and is totally reliant on the driver using the correct name in order to work properly. Therefore the penalty must have an element of punitive measure about it.


A lot of curb-climbing from multiple driver. Some more than other, but due to no reports about this and the bad in-game detection at this track, I'll just give a public warning that railriding or corner cutting is not allowed.

The rules states that all wheel shall be in the road at all times.


Server replay time: 208s

Stewprovo's driving on the pace lap was pretty erratic and culminated in an off and contact with another car shortly after the rejoin. This is obviously undesirable.

  • Stewprovoadvice — more caution on the pace lap


Server replay time: 492s

Stewprovo is in front of PRibeiro, closely followed by Dave Gymer. Stewprovo misses the exit in the last turn, causing PRibeiro to close up and trying to pass on the inside. As Stewprovo sees that, he tries to block by moving slowly towords the pit wall, forcing contact with PRibeiro who has nowhere to go. Stewprovo then misses through turn 1 letting PRibeiro and Dave pass.

This is considered blocking and is not allowed.

  • Stewprovowarning — Blocking
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 536s

Closing on a hairpin turn, Stewprovo tries to pass both Dave Gymer and PRibeiro by moving to the inside during braking and braking late. He miscalculates and divebombs PRibeiro. He then continues . PRibeiro spins due to this massive hit, letting Dave Gymer to pass PRibeiro.

  • Stewprovopenalty — Over-Ambitious Overtake — 2 places lost


Server replay time: 1959s

Paul968 is closely followed by Dave Gymer and PRibeiro down the long straight before the first hairpin, when PRibeiro is moving on the inside of Dave. Paul is probably trying his best to keep Dave behind, and Dave is probably trying to pass and keep PRibeiro behind. This causes Paul to lock up when braking hard for the hairpin, which in turn causes Dave to divebomb him in the turn as he can't slow enough down and is forced to try and go on the inside, which fails. PRibeiro then rightfully passes both, but Dave lets Paul pass just down the road.

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« on: October 24, 2007, 03:48:50 PM +0100 »

Practice 1:20:10(10 mins)full time drivers only
Practice 2:20:20(10 mins)reserves may join too
Qual 2:20:30(25 mins)
Race:20:55(40 minutes)note: no warmup

Cars allowed: any GT2 or GTC from the UKGTR Skin Pack v2.6.0.0
Weather: Dry
Track: Hockenheim GP
Race Start Time 14:00
Pit Stops: no mandatory stop

Server: UKGTR Lower Sprint
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(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page. Reserves (anyone without a full time spot) should not join until the stated session, regardless of the time.
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the skin and ballast pack (see link above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
(6) Please use the Driver Details page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).
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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2007, 09:27:58 AM +0100 »

Race postponed, initially for two weeks but actual to be confirmed next week. Sorry folks.
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2007, 09:58:50 PM +0000 »

Well i'm looking forward to this if no one else is;)
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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2007, 10:23:27 PM +0000 »

I should be ok too. Hopefully it will finish sharp for me getting into work on time for nightshift.
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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2007, 10:23:57 AM +0000 »

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Forecast for Tuesday as of Nov. 13 1:00 AM CET
Rain. High:39 ° F. / 4 ° C.

Forecast for Tuesday Night as of Nov. 13 1:00 AM CET
Rain. Low:33 ° F. / 1 ° C.

Forecast for Wednesday as of Nov. 13 1:00 AM CET
Chance of Snow. High:35 ° F. / 2 ° C.

joy! haha  Wink driven in an RSR so much here cos of GamersCrib #2 server  Angry and thought i had a setup....then mutha....nature (?!) intervenes  Smiley Embarrassed

lol snow on wed night....do RSRs have snow tyres??
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« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2007, 10:34:58 AM +0000 »

Sprints are always dry, so no need to panic Wink
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« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2007, 10:39:14 AM +0000 »

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Low:33 ° F. / 1 ° C.

Just take loads of spare air for those under-inflated tyres.  Grin
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« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2007, 11:00:40 AM +0000 »

No real world weather in Sprints...
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« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2007, 11:28:51 AM +0000 »

Sprints are always dry, so no need to panic Wink

No real world weather in Sprints...

lol, didn't even know that, quite worrying since i have been driving sprints for 18 odd months.....every cloud has a silver lining so to speak lol Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2007, 02:31:18 PM +0000 »

hm... might join you in this one.

so... what's the best handling non-porsche/non-US car out there?  Grin
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« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2007, 03:58:58 PM +0000 »

Out of interest, why dont we have changing conditions in our sprints? I think it should be like a proper race series and have a smattering of wet weather events as well as dry, and also some more ambient times of day?.
It would add to the interest/realism value and throw some more variables into the mix.
I was disapointed sunday when the enduro turned out to be yet another dry race, despite half the western world getting rained on. Sad
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« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2007, 05:47:48 PM +0000 »

Out of interest, why dont we have changing conditions in our sprints?

Because they have always tended to be more an 'arrive and drive' crowd with less preparation than the endurance events.
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« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2007, 06:19:43 PM +0000 »

Because they have always tended to be more an 'arrive and drive' crowd with less preparation than the endurance events.

I don't see why a lack of preparation by some should stop the use of real conditions.  Course, not many races happen when it's snowing!!




I can't make this evenings race anyway ..... or rather, I shouldn't if I know what's good for me .....

Gutted given the standings.....both individually and for the team.

Have a good one gents.
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« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2007, 09:32:20 PM +0000 »

Aaaarggh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Was having an absolute blinder of a race after switching from the crappy 350Z to the magical Morgan with a last minute decision. Qualified 3rd in class after hacking a setup together quick smart. The race just got better and better. First I managed to get past Jeff  Shocked and then I couldn't believe my eyes at the times I was doing and I was actually catching Paul in the lead. Managed to overtake Paul to take the class lead and thought well I can pull away now. Grin A lap later and I just caught the curb wrong or something on T1, couldn't catch the slide and slewed sideways to a halt. Poor old Paul had nowhere to go and slammed into me, letting MR and Jeff past. Got going again, but the car damage was too severe with me unable to get down the straight safely. Sorry to have collected Paul, hope your car wasn't too bad but I suspect it was pretty damaged too. Sad

Would have been my first class win and a good race to boot so gutted to have ended that way.

The Morgan is one of only two cars in the game that have that wonderful car control feel to them (the other being the TVR), there is no other car in the game that has that much feel. I'll definately be using the Morgan again and never touching the 350Z with a barge pole.
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« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2007, 09:34:41 PM +0000 »

Another early retirement through damage sustained by contact. Sad

Had no front downforce left after someone decided to use my car as an additional brake into the hairpin...five or six 'offs' later I just gave up in frustration.
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