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  • NGT Sprint - S1 R3 - Enna: July 26, 2005
July 26, 2005, 09:23:00 PM +0100 - Enna - UKGTR GTR1 Sprint Season 1 N-GT
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Matjaz Plotajs
 dE Racing
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 1 1:37.450
114.010mph
1 29:36.635
106.310mph
17 1:37.887
113.501mph
Dunlop  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 3 +0.736
113.155mph
2 +12.304
105.579mph
17 1:38.675
112.594mph
Pirelli  
Mike Wrightson
 dE Racing
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 8 +3.310
110.265mph
3 +56.871
103.013mph
17 1:40.791
110.231mph
Dunlop  
malonejames
 
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 13 +4.611
108.859mph
4 (+2) +1:33.439
100.998mph
17 1:41.019
109.982mph
Dunlop  
Bernie Lomax
 Ze insane Penguins
Porsche 996 GT2 Bi-turbo NGT 2 +0.232
113.739mph
5 +1:51.510
100.032mph
17 1:40.017
111.084mph
Pirelli  
popabawa
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 10 +3.838
109.690mph
6 +1L
99.469mph
16 1:44.006
106.823mph
Dunlop  
Don
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 15 +7.070
106.298mph
7 +16.180
98.577mph
16 1:45.300
105.510mph
Pirelli  
fozzmeister
 The Crafty Butchers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 5 +2.398
111.272mph
8 (+2) +49.603
96.783mph
16 1:40.411
110.648mph
Dunlop  
silver53
 Ze insane Penguins
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 20 +13.483
100.153mph
9 +1:26.414
94.881mph
16 1:45.413
105.397mph
Pirelli  
as-here
 
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 17 +7.704
105.657mph
10 +2L
93.692mph
15 1:47.146
103.693mph
Dunlop  
Jamera
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 16 +7.376
105.988mph
11 (+4) +14.974
92.910mph
15 1:47.759
103.103mph
Dunlop  
rufbtr
 Speedworx
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 9 +3.575
109.975mph
12 +15.746
92.870mph
15 1:43.037
107.828mph
Pirelli  
Oilseal
 Team Oldie Racing
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 21 +14.653
99.108mph
13 +23.275
92.482mph
15 1:49.750
101.232mph
Pirelli  
[ZiP]Tyf
 Ze insane Penguins
Porsche 996 GT2 Bi-turbo NGT 11 +4.268
109.226mph
14 +3L
86.294mph
14 1:39.976
111.129mph
Pirelli  
PaulW
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 6 +2.549
111.104mph
15 +4L 13 1:40.263
110.811mph
suspension
Dunlop  
TinMan
 
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 14 +5.713
107.696mph
16 13 1:42.927
107.943mph
suspension
Dunlop  
Paul968
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 4 +1.113
112.722mph
17 (+2) +8L 9 1:39.793
111.333mph
unknown
Pirelli  
Aagramn
 Team Shark
Morgan Aero 8 NGT 12 +4.384
109.102mph
18 +10L 7 1:42.200
108.711mph
unknown
Dunlop  
mo
 
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 19 +9.917
103.479mph
19 +11L 6 1:49.288
101.660mph
accident
Dunlop  
Iain
 Ze insane Penguins
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 7 +3.090
110.506mph
20 +13L 4 1:43.981
106.849mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Rob Bywater "Kerb Crawlers"
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 18 +8.773
104.594mph
21 +14L 3 1:51.090
100.011mph
unknown
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 821s

Fozzmeister gets his braking all wrong into one of the chicanes and takes a place off Paul968, who is forced onto the gravel too. Paul then returns the favour in the next chicane, missing his braking point and bumping Fozz off down the escape road.

The penalties offset each other.

  • fozzmeister (Fozzmeister)penalty — forcing Paul968 off; gaining a place by cutting a chicane — 2 places lost
  • Paul968penalty — rear ending Fozzmeister — 2 places lost


Server replay time: 843s

JM-Racing (malonejames) is following Popabawa into one of the chicanes and brakes much later than Pops. He ducks to the inside but can neither avoid nor pass Popabawa, and hits the right rear corner of the Porsche, spinning him off.

I'm inclined to view this as a braking misjudgement rather than a deliberate lunge but this is exactly the kind of incident we'd like to stamp out. When following a slower car you should ideally pull out to one side so that if they do catch you out by braking early you can safely pass them without too much drama.


Server replay time: 959s

Shark has Matjaz breathing down his neck as he comes up to lap Mike Cooper. Shark flicks his lights on, but Mike brakes much earlier than he's expecting, causing Shark to take to the runoff to avoid him, eventually half spinning as he rejoins. Matjaz, unsighted by Shark, can't avoid Mike and rear ends him, before also running over the runoff, to rejoin without spinning, and thus effectively taking a place off Shark.

This wasn't a normal rear ender as Matjaz did not have a clear view of Mike until the last moment before contact.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 1035s

Shark is lapping Jamera, who seems to brake early to let him by, but then turns in on him mid-corner; there is light side contact.

  • Jameraadvice — let lapping cars through with a slight lift under power, not under braking


Server replay time: 1093s

Fozz is coming up to lap Oilseal, who is very slow out of a corner with Fozz right behind. Inevitably Fozz runs into the back of him.


Server replay time: 1160s

Jamera spins off on his own. He rejoins directly back onto the track just as Fozz is arriving on the scene, collecting him.

Fozz has time to see Jamera ahead and could have slowed down and taken a tighter line to avoid him. Jamera could and should have looked behind before driving back onto the track and continued on the grass until it was safe to rejoin.

  • fozzmeister (Fozzmeister)warning — lack of care approaching an incident
  • Jamerapenalty — dangerous rejoin — 2 places lost (plus 3 for penalty points)


Server replay time: 1615s

Bernie Lomax has clipped the curb on the way out of one of the chicanes and loses control. Fozz clips him just as he comes past, spinning out.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 1698s

Matjaz is coming up to lap Popabawa, who slows down too much, too early, and is so busy looking behind at Matjaz that he loses track of where he is on the road, drifts to the right, and forces Matjaz to pass on the grass. Luckily there is just enough room for Matjaz to rejoin and brake in time for the oncoming chicane.

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« Reply #60 on: July 26, 2005, 09:49:41 PM +0100 »

Qualified on a race setup, and was cruising around happily in about 11th about half way through the race. Was being very patient waiting for the cars in front to make a mistake. Spun on the exit to T3, could have carried on but decided my car was in a dangerous position with traffic coming up fast, and exited. Oh well, got a bit of practise in for tomorrow anyway.
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« Reply #61 on: July 26, 2005, 09:53:28 PM +0100 »

One word - FRUSTRATED!

Couldn't get near my offline times because of the choppy frame rate, but was keeping Bernie honest in 4th. Then Fozz got a bit of a run onto the long straight but not enough to get by. He then missed his braking point and locked everything up. I saw him coming, realised that if I turned in I'd be collected and so stayed out of the way on the left, taking to the gravel. He missed the corner too but ended up in front. I hoped he would give the place back but that didn't happen, so while I was seething about the injustice of it I missed my braking point and nudged him off at T1. He took the to the exit road and reappeared ahead again. By this point I was in totally the wrong frame of mind, lost another place to Paul and then hit Mike Cooper who slowed far more than I expected for the 2nd chicane. This was the worst place for frame rate and I couldn't avoid - sorry Mike. I gave up at that point.

I'm starting to quetsion whether I can race online with my current hardware. Funds are tight so unless I can think of a cheap upgrade I may have to sit things out till I afford to get something faster.

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« Reply #62 on: July 26, 2005, 09:57:14 PM +0100 »

Man, feel for you Rob.

Shagged that one up a bit! Qualified OK but a couple of seconds off my best- just kept closing in on traffic and having to slow up. That's the game though I guess  Sad

Had a solid race and just behind Bernie in 4th with only 5 mins to go when I slide into the tyres, not sure why, wasn't pushing super hard but just swapped ends. Span in slow motion and was thinking "please don't be terminal... please don't be terminal" but the rear wheel punctured unfortunately. If you want a laugh, watch me trying to get out of the sand there, spinning round and round Roll Eyes

Bit gutted because I had a chance of a top 3 at Enna, but thems teh breaks. Bring on the next one  Smiley
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« Reply #63 on: July 26, 2005, 10:05:51 PM +0100 »

Holy crud that was hard work....

Amazed to Q 10th with what I thought was a poor time.

Up to 9th but it soon became apparent that just about everyone behind me was faster and queuing up to pass me  Grin Held JM-Racing and Mike Wrightson off for a while but it was in vain, stupidly clipped a kerb and (I think) severely hampered Mike Wrightson, if that's the case, really sorry Mike Sad

Tootled round on my own, picking up placed as I passed the dead cars.

Made an absolute pig's-ear of letting Matj past at the end, god that was awful, didn't stay on the racing line. Pathetic. So sorry Matj  :'( My concentration was completely shot by that point Sad

6TH! Can I get a WhooHooo!  Grin

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« Reply #64 on: July 26, 2005, 10:06:15 PM +0100 »

Server replay and exports uploaded to website as usual.
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« Reply #65 on: July 26, 2005, 10:10:55 PM +0100 »

Well in my frustration and annoyance i`ve just emailed the CEO of Simbin asking, very politely, if there are any plans to correct these bugs.

Dont know if it`ll have any effect but felt I had to do somert!!

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« Reply #66 on: July 26, 2005, 10:13:53 PM +0100 »

Well again I had a better race, however stupid, stupid mistakes cost me 3-4 places AGAIN!!! If I can be consistant and stay on the track I feel there is a good chance of scoring points.....
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« Reply #67 on: July 26, 2005, 10:20:07 PM +0100 »

Not a bad race here the only black spot being when i knocked pops off at the final chicane due to my impatiance to get by him. Sorry mate. Feel free to boot me off the road next week!  Wink

Rest of the race was spent dodging the spinning/crashing cars and ended up 4th. I really don't know how that happened but long may it continue!  Grin
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« Reply #68 on: July 26, 2005, 10:22:02 PM +0100 »

Had a weird problem when I joined the server for the first time. Missing textures and all, restarted the game and then had a ctd, lol. Rebooted pc and it worked, phew! Only 3 mins to go in quali 1 though. Had to take default fast setup and managed a nice 1:41:xxx which had me in 11th. Started the race nice and gently as did most I noticed. Couple of peeps spun out or had 1fps and with me being in the faster car (Bi-T) I actually managed to overtake peeps! Woohoo (cheer with me Pops Wink).
Then as I was closing in on Fozz, he spun in the 2nd to last turn and I lost it just a little as well, hehe. No real damage... I thought, lol. 'Just' a puncture... In the sand trap just past the pit entrance, rofl!

Took me 40+ secs to get the car on the track again! AAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh! LOL!  Cheesy
Then I had to limp back to the pit over the full length of the track, managed to avoid everyone, got out of the pit, but only had 1-2 laps to go. Managed a nice 14th in the end Wink AND a 3rd fastest laptime! Woohoo (cheering with Pops again Wink).

I suggest we do a rematch, because I wanna know where I would have ended up, seeing I managed to miss all the tyrewalls! Wink Cheesy

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« Reply #69 on: July 26, 2005, 10:22:21 PM +0100 »

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Not a bad race here the only black spot being when i knocked pops off at the final chicane due to my impatiance to get by him. Sorry mate. Feel free to boot me off the road next week!

Now there's a challenge!  Wink
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« Reply #70 on: July 26, 2005, 10:24:05 PM +0100 »

Feel for you lad. Best we can do is try and work around the ingame bugs.

Thankfully since my full uninstall and reinstall of GTR and fiddle with settings I haven't had it again (4 races so far) and Enna is one of the worst places for 1 fps. In case you wanna try it my settings are now:
1) Reinstalled GTR from scratch with no add-ons at all.
2) Put 1.4 patch on.
3) Created a new player in game with GTR 1.4 and copied old Career.blt over the new one.
4) Everything on highest setting in video settings in game except:
  a) Other Car Detail - High
  b) Special Effects - Medium
  c) Track Draw Distance - Far
  d) Number of cars draw - 24
  e) Level of detail bias - 100%
5) Number of sounds - 16
6) Turned all replay settings OFF.
7) In car chat OFF.

It's running at 1280x1024 with 4x AA and am using NGO ATI drivers (based on 5.7 catalyst). To be honest even with the settings (above) down like Special Effects to Medium the graphics don't look any worse to me than before when i had everything on max.
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« Reply #71 on: July 26, 2005, 10:25:23 PM +0100 »

Would love to know why Bernie Lomax pitted on last lap and didn't just cross the line to take 3rd, instead dropping 2 places whilst in the pits? Were you not sure that would be the last lap?
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« Reply #72 on: July 26, 2005, 10:27:23 PM +0100 »

Failed to mention before that I also completely failed to hold Tyf off and he passed me with a nice manouver to my extreme annoyance  Wink.

Nice one Tyf!
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« Reply #73 on: July 26, 2005, 10:27:37 PM +0100 »

Would love to know why Bernie Lomax pitted on last lap and didn't just cross the line to take 3rd, instead dropping 2 places whilst in the pits? Were you not sure that would be the last lap?

Sssssh don't tell him! He might do it again next week!  Wink
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« Reply #74 on: July 26, 2005, 10:32:10 PM +0100 »

Thanks Popa. I just had the faster car m8.
Bernie uses the same by the way, it's a Lambo in disguise! Wink Grin Maybe that's why he pitted earlier to avoid the marshalls noticing it!  Shocked Tongue Cheesy

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