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  • Endurance D1 S1R2 - Magny C.: July 31, 2005
July 31, 2005, 09:39:50 PM +0100 - Magny-Cours (GP) - UKGTR GTR1 Endurance Season 1 Division 1
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Mark Harrison
 Kerb Crawlers
Lister Storm GT1 4 +1.115
93.796mph
1 1:00:10.034
88.258mph
32 1:46.784
93.242mph
Dunlop  
Truetom
 Ze insane Penguins
Saleen S7-R GT1 2 +0.633
94.224mph
2 +0.683
88.242mph
32 1:46.282
93.682mph
Dunlop  
Mike Wrightson
 dE Racing
Dodge Viper GTS-R GT1 6 +2.733
92.388mph
3 +9.449
88.028mph
32 1:48.550
91.725mph
Dunlop  
Matjaz Plotajs
 dE Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 7 +3.927
91.376mph
4 +15.066
87.891mph
32 1:50.037
90.485mph
Dunlop  
Muorali
 
Lister Storm GT1 1 1:45.038
94.792mph
5 +30.878
87.510mph
32 1:46.863
93.173mph
Dunlop  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT GT1 3 +0.869
94.014mph
6 +41.863
87.247mph
32 1:46.329
93.641mph
Michelin  
fozzmeister
 The Crafty Butchers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 10 +5.579
90.011mph
7 +1L
85.243mph
31 1:53.650
87.609mph
Dunlop  
Bernie Lomax
 Ze insane Penguins
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 17 +11.394
85.515mph
8 +47.936
84.130mph
31 1:53.623
87.630mph
Dunlop  
PaulW
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 12 +7.571
88.419mph
9 +1:34.461
83.076mph
31 1:55.812
85.973mph
Pirelli  
CP
 
Ferrari 575 GTC GT1 9 +4.648
90.775mph
10 +2L
81.666mph
30 1:52.751
88.307mph
Pirelli  
Don
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 14 +10.665
86.054mph
11 +3L
79.805mph
29 1:55.518
86.192mph
Pirelli  
Doug Greer
 
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 15 +10.681
86.042mph
12 +14.557
79.485mph
29 1:54.559
86.914mph
Dunlop  
[ZiP]Tyf
 Ze insane Penguins
Porsche 996 GT2 Bi-turbo NGT 16 +11.051
85.768mph
13 +18.282
79.404mph
29 1:54.994
86.585mph
Pirelli  
Jamera
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 20 +17.730
81.102mph
14 +5L
74.082mph
27 2:00.144
82.873mph
Dunlop  
Glen VW
 Rookie Motorsports
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 18 +13.373
84.086mph
15 +14L 18 1:57.024
85.083mph
unknown
Pirelli  
rik foster
  Team Backwards Racing
Lister Storm GT1 8 +4.151
91.188mph
16 +16L 16 1:50.083
90.447mph
unknown
Dunlop  
silver53
 Ze insane Penguins
SEAT Toledo GT G2 19 +14.410
83.356mph
17 +17L 15 1:57.302
84.881mph
accident
Dunlop  
cb95amc
 
Lister Storm GT1 13 +9.305
87.078mph
18 +21L 11 1:52.084
88.833mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Paul968
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 5 +2.273
92.784mph
19 +25L 7 1:48.786
91.526mph
unknown
Michelin  
Brian Needham
 
Mosler MT900R NGT 11 +7.030
88.845mph
20 +32L
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 183s

As Muorali comes up to the final chicane to lead the field to the rolling start, he uses too much of the first, right hand curb, clips one of the solid bollards and spins. As he does so he dislodges one of the bollards on the second, left hand curb and deposits it on the track.

TrueTom has to take over leading the pack but goes far too early.

Behind, Mark Harrison runs into the "invisible" bollard (it's clearly visible on the replay, although I don't know under what conditions it would've been visible to drivers during the event) and comes to an abrupt halt, collecting Paul968 who is right behind and causing a fair bit more chaos and confusion in the ranks.

Obviously the invisible bollards are a well documented problem and there's not a lot we can do about them.

  • Muoraliadvice — stay off the curbs on the pace lap
  • Truetom (truetom)caution — premature acceleration on the pace lap


Server replay time: 235s

Rik Foster has lost it under braking into Adelaide. He spin turns to the outside, away from oncoming traffic. Rik starts to move off again but hasn't moved more than a few feet when Colin P, who has missed the apex, clips the front of him. Neither car is seriously inconvenienced but it does cause some confusion in the ranks.


Server replay time: 243s

During the previous incident with Rik and Colin, Paul968 has outbraked himself and trundled round the outside of Rik.

In the confusion Mike Wrightson winds up alongside Paul968; neither can see each other and Mike moves across, making contact with Paul and spinning off.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 287s

Shark and Muorali and in close proximity coming out of Chateau d'Eau, and the former stays wide through the kink - too wide, in fact, and he runs onto the grass, sailing down out of control towards Lycee, narrowly missing TrueTom before hitting the tyres.


Server replay time: 1468s

Fozz is coming round to lap Gerald in the Toledo; Shark laps both, flying through the middle into Grande Courbe. Fozz turns in, thinking he has cleared Gerald, but he hasn't and there is light contact.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 1892s

Shark is lapping Rik Foster, who applies too much throttle as he accelerates down the start straight and spins, collecting Shark.

Shark spin turns but then pushes Rik out of the way to get going again. This is rather silly as he could easily have done additional aero damage to his front end.

  • Simon Gymer (Shark)caution — drive round other cars not through them, even after a collision

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« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2005, 08:30:42 PM +0100 »

Sorry chaps, server is up but the die said "Monsoon"
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« Reply #31 on: July 31, 2005, 08:39:40 PM +0100 »

Hopefully I can get a spot then, hehe, because I like rain races Cheesy

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« Reply #32 on: July 31, 2005, 08:50:25 PM +0100 »

Lol, all that practice sliding about in the Escort may come in handy!

Quite like the wet myself. Hope we don't get tonnes of drop-outs though and end up with 5 people at the end!
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« Reply #33 on: July 31, 2005, 10:46:38 PM +0100 »

Wet races can be good after all!  That one was a barnburner.  Had it in the bag, and nearly threw it away....limped home by 6 tenths of a second.  Full report to follow....
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« Reply #34 on: July 31, 2005, 10:50:00 PM +0100 »

Monsoon again............................

not so bad , evens the field a little I guess.

1 FPS bug on lap 18, sucks to have this happen, curse Simbin for not fixing some of the problems they know about  Angry

Still fun to be out there with everyone (I think 20 drivers) for those 18 laps, maybe race number 3 will be better- no glitches and hopefully maybe some dry weather for a change  Grin
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« Reply #35 on: July 31, 2005, 10:52:03 PM +0100 »

I'm pretty good in the wet so was expecting top 3 finish. Unfortunately lap 1 and I clipped the grass side by side with someone (had no idea where you were so tried to stay as wide as possible ready to back off into the next corner), sadly probably hit a puddle or just lack of grip on the outside and i veered onto grass and lost it into the last chicane nearly wiping out Tom Tom and losing my front spliiter with a hard thwack against barrier. Came straight in for fixes and lost at least 45 seconds in the pits doing it.

Then had lots of fun going from way dead last through the field and didn't pit for my scheduled stop till 19 minutes to go. Had calculated in my head a reduced fuel load to put in rather than what I had set before hand as it was hardly using any in the wet and got it spot on with only 1 laps worth left at the end.

Ended up 6th but it could be have been a lot better as I was only 40 seconds behind at the end. So without my extra pit stop and at one point being collected by a Lister spinning out of last chicane whilst he was being lapped I would have been up there I reckon.

Anyway, I pray to god it's Dry for the next one as Enna and rain is just scarey as hell and i'm getting bored with rain now.

Congrats to Mark for the GT win and Matjaz for the NGT win.
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« Reply #36 on: July 31, 2005, 11:02:08 PM +0100 »

I was that Lister(no blue lites on dash or pitman advice),but you would of got past clean into T1 anyway.Car jus flipped sideways as i put power down a bit to fast Monty style Grin.Sorry u got hit mate apologises.
Surprised how fast i was havin to make a setup for wet.Worked well cut the max revs down to 6300,and filled tank rite up,but after losing 5th place and my son and his mate telling me how good i was ,next thing i know i,m driving the long way to pits with a puncture,i HATE the way the pit man says punK ture  hehe lost the plot hehe.
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« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2005, 12:04:11 AM +0100 »

Joined up with not a lot of Q2 to go and was annoyed to have my best Q lap ruined by the damn invisible cone thing again  Angry
Chalk up another one to a Simbin bug then, car skittered across the track and I lost a second or two from the time.

Stuck Hard wets on and filled the tank right up for the race. Just drove fairly carefully for the hour, and was, well, a little bored to be honest! Only two minor spins so consistent considering it was wet. Tyres had started to go with about 10 laps left but I'd been braking like an OAP (beige stylee) all race to look after them.

I'm afraid I have a major case of clinical depression now though after staring at that heavy grey sky for 60 minutes Wink  Grin
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« Reply #38 on: August 01, 2005, 12:24:08 AM +0100 »

Started an amazing 10th, and just drove, not particularly fast at all, was way down on the fastest lap thing, but made practically no mistakes what-so-ever (one slight contact, a few runs wide but staying on black stuff, no spins) and I don't believe I was lapping slowly, just being incredibly consistent with no startling laps, I was pulling 6 seconds a lap out for a few laps over 8th place, but settled into about 2-3 eventually. Chuffed to finish 7th, and the 2nd NGT driver behind Matjaz (who doesn't count in my book as he should be in division 0 Smiley ).

Funny what a bit of setup time can do with wet weather...

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« Reply #39 on: August 01, 2005, 12:39:18 AM +0100 »

I need to get into some setup practice.

Found out that with a light fuel load, my wet setup is an utter nightmare even with fresh tyres.  While the car is heavy, it's fine, but when it gets light, OMG!!

This gets much worse when you are on worn out tyres at the time LOL Smiley  Went for a non-stop race again, fell off on the pace lap (DOH!) and suffered a couple of spins en-route to 3rd place.  Without the sillier of my spins though, I had a chance for a win there.  Looks like I'll be better off making a pitstop though.  Maybe a change of car too Smiley

EDIT:  Yep, after some quick laps, I'm changing to the Saleen, pass the "I'm a big wuss" hat  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #40 on: August 01, 2005, 08:03:52 AM +0100 »

Should have won this one. As Mark said, I had it in my basket... Made one big mistake, the same way as Shark did (btw, it was really scarry how you whoshed in front of my nose!). Had to pit and as it was just about half the race I changed tires from hard to soft. Came back 6th and made it to 2nd in the end with just a few sec behind 1st. If there were 2 more laps, I would have passed you, Mark  Undecided Anyway, my mistake, my second place - again, same as Barcelona.

In the game something strange was happening to me four times - like sbd would be pulling and releasing me on an elastic rope, really jerky graphics, couldn't drive as fast as I wanted and was happy to stay on the track. Every time it lasted for about 1 minute and I'm sorry to say the last time was just as I was trying to catch Mark.  Angry

Seems like rain appeals to me or I'm just more careful - came 2nd in rain twice now, when I would be probably more to the back in dry. Congrats Mark! And of course to Matjaz, too - he was very fast in NGT.       
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« Reply #41 on: August 01, 2005, 08:25:05 AM +0100 »

Really enjoyed the race! Action began in the warm up lap when Mike spun in front of me and a couple of cars in the last chicane as well. In the race I just tried to keep it smooth and nurse my tyres as I was on a 0 stop strategy. I must say soft tyres performed extremely well although they were to cold most of the time. 10 minutes to go I was in 3rd and 15 seconds ahead of 4th position guy when I was laping Jamera. He gave me room on the long straight and I passed him normally but then he must have missed the braking point and crashed heavily into my back. I spun and almost ended up in the sand. When I got back to the track the 4th position guy was right behind me so that was it. I could not defend my position against his Saleen on the straights and had to settle for 4th. Anyway a nice win in the NGT class for me and a strong performance by Mike in the GT means a superb result for dE Racing Team. Hope for a dry weather at Enna !  Wink 
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« Reply #42 on: August 01, 2005, 08:35:57 AM +0100 »

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« Reply #43 on: August 01, 2005, 09:03:09 AM +0100 »

Should have won this one. As Mark said, I had it in my basket... Made one big mistake, the same way as Shark did (btw, it was really scarry how you whoshed in front of my nose!)

I was so glad I didn't collect you. I just closed my eyes and hoped for the best as once I was on the grass I had no control on the car at all and I could see I was heading right across your path and I thought I was definately going to hit you. You dissapeared to my left as you went round the corner and I was just waiting for the crunching noise. Must have missed you by inches and given you the fright of your life. The race director had the cheek to give me a warning for cutting the track! Cutting the track!?! I don't call being out of control and slamming into the tyre wall cutting the track, but hey I'm not a race director so I guess I must have been cheating by taking the shortcut into the tyres.
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« Reply #44 on: August 01, 2005, 10:09:53 AM +0100 »

Total distaster for me. Couldn't find a 550 setup which would work in qual and spent a lot of time trying to tweak it to get the temps up - waste of time. What I should have done is gone back to a much more understeering setup but I was fixated on tyre temps.

Started the race in 5th, lost a place when I went wide at the hairpin a few laps in (who nicked the 150 board then!) and in recovering Mike bounced off me and spun. I couldn't see him or vice versa I expect, but I don't think it was any more than a racing incident. Anyway, the car was undrivable on the power, and it was only a matter of time before I had a big off. In the end the car snapped on me in a straight line, and as I pirouetted into the barriers I couldn't face 40 more minutes of such torture and quit.

Having sice tried another setup based on default fast, I was much quicker and more consistent. Tyre temps were still c**p but at least I could drive the bugger in a straight line! 

One other thing. With the weather rules as they are, its possible to see the weather is wet and duck out for a more suitable car. Not saying anyone actually did this, but if you had a rear engined car last night you had a big advantage IMO. Certainly the 550 is a right handful in the (very) wet. Personally I'd still rather see everyone stick to one car all season.

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