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November 25, 2007, 09:00:09 PM +0000 - Sugo (Classic) - UKGTR Season 6 Upper Endurance
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
CeeJay
 GTN Drivers Club
Lister Storm (#4014) GT1 4 +0.549
100.265mph
1 1:20:58.403
95.001mph
56 1:23.169
99.099mph
Michelin +15.0kg
Paul Richards
 Kerb Crawlers
Saleen S7-R (#970013) GT1 3 +0.426
100.415mph
2 +2.281
94.956mph
56 1:23.002
99.299mph
Pirelli -15.0kg
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Lister Storm (#860001) GT1 8 +0.978
99.745mph
3 +25.949
94.496mph
56 1:22.229
100.232mph
Michelin -45.0kg
Truetom
 Legends Racing
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#820008) GT1 9 +1.158
99.528mph
4 +1:14.493
93.566mph
56 1:23.856
98.287mph
Michelin -8.0kg
Gazza49er
 Team Pseudo Racing
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#740052) GT1 5 +0.697
100.085mph
5 +1:23.803
93.390mph
56 1:23.495
98.712mph
Michelin -8.0kg
Jure
 Racin24-7
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#960037) GT1 7 +0.964
99.761mph
6 +1L
93.031mph
55 1:24.178
97.911mph
Michelin -8.0kg
BACKO
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#490052) GT1 10 +1.777
98.789mph
7 +33.049
92.404mph
55 1:24.017
98.099mph
Pirelli +5.0kg
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Nissan 350Z (#990001) GTC 17 +8.016
91.916mph
8 +3L
88.388mph
53 1:29.372
92.221mph
Michelin -32.0kg
Paul968
 Kerb Crawlers
Morgan Aero 8 (#960013) GTC 13 +6.919
93.054mph
9 +4L
88.211mph
52 1:29.496
92.093mph
Michelin +65.0kg
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS (#930013) GTC 14 +7.135
92.828mph
10 +50.012
87.312mph
52 1:29.912
91.667mph
Michelin +50.0kg
popabawa
 Legends Racing
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#940008) GTC 16 +7.852
92.084mph
11 +50.421
87.305mph
52 1:30.083
91.493mph
Dunlop -45.0kg
pribeiro
 Sonic Racing Team
Ferrari 360 Modena (#4064) GTC 19 +9.182
90.736mph
12 +1:25.482
86.686mph
52 1:31.844
89.739mph
Pirelli +5.0kg
picnic
 Team Shark
Morgan Aero 8 (#900001) GTC 20 +9.294
90.624mph
13 +5L
85.620mph
51 1:30.089
91.487mph
Michelin -15.0kg
Blunder
 Team Oldie Racing
Mosler MT900R (#660014) GTC 22 +11.295
88.673mph
14 +6L
84.682mph
50 1:32.370
89.228mph
Dunlop -5.0kg
Andy Eves
 
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#4026) GT1 11 +3.794
96.457mph
15 +9L 47 1:25.692
96.182mph
unknown
Michelin +12.0kg
Joss
 Team Shark
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#980001) GT1 2 +0.349
100.510mph
16 +19L 37 1:22.682
99.683mph
unknown
Michelin +37.0kg
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS (#4059) GTC 15 +7.246
92.712mph
17 +23L 33 1:29.818
91.763mph
engine
Michelin +10.0kg
John
 Team Pseudo Racing
Morgan Aero 8 (#3107) GTC 12 +6.748
93.234mph
18 +34L 22 1:29.131
92.471mph
engine
Michelin -15.0kg
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Lister Storm (#860001) GT1 6 +0.732
100.042mph
19 +35L 21 1:23.696
98.475mph
unknown
Michelin +25.0kg
Kerr
 Team Shark Junior
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#980003) GT1 1 1:21.653
100.939mph
20 +38L 18 1:22.749
99.602mph
unknown
Michelin -8.0kg
psuedo
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ferrari 360 Modena (#890052) GTC 18 +8.033
91.898mph
21 +41L 15 1:31.087
90.485mph
unknown
Pirelli +5.0kg
Pedro Silva
 Sonic Racing Team
Porsche 911 GT3-RS (#4057) GTC 23 +11.528
88.451mph
22 +42L 14 1:32.126
89.464mph
unknown
Dunlop +10.0kg
MortenS
 Team Shark Junior
Nissan 350Z (#990003) GTC 21 +9.999
89.927mph
23 +48L 8 1:33.020
88.604mph
unknown
Dunlop -17.0kg
SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR2
GT1
1:21.653
100.939mph
Kerr
Qualifying
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT
-8.0kg
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« Reply #60 on: November 26, 2007, 11:02:58 AM +0000 »

re: random mech failures, funny enough i was just telling my teamies on our site that during the day yesterday i had pondered why there were  not more random mechanical failures in our enduros to add to the realism/spice of endurance racing.
The irony of my engine then letting go in the evening was not lost on me  Roll Eyes Grin

On another realism factor, why dont we use time scaling for our endurance league? Surely it would add to the 'endurance' aspect of it with variable lighting and/or weather conditions possible. Even if we only used it for certain more prestigious rounds like Spa. It seems a waste of the games in-built features to not utilise it and doubt there are many left racing in our leagues who havent upped all their pc kit to deal with it.  Undecided
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« Reply #61 on: November 26, 2007, 11:06:24 AM +0000 »

I didn't think I would on this track but I thoroughly enjoyed that in the end! I qualified with a time I thought I could get before the race. Apologies to Martin for running into the back of him towards the end of that final corner. I was up on my best time and thought I could turn in tight enough to pass on the right up the hill but the car slid wide and I couldn't adjust quick enough to avoid the collision. I was surprised to be ahead of the ballasted Ruskus and CJ when lying in second with a couple of minutes to go so was watching Freq. He was up on Brian's great time in the first two sectors but had a scrappy last section. He still had enough time in the bank to pip me though!!

I started heavy on med tyres and Brian and Freq quickly started to pull away. I was pushing to stay ahead of CJ, Ruskus and Gazza and the straight line speed of the Saleen was enough to not allow anyone near to attempt a pass. We then came across the first of the GTCs and this broke up the battle a bit. By now my car was starting to feel better and I pushed to try and keep up with Freq who was quite a way up the road. He then had his spin which let me past and the gap between me and CJ was fluctuating depending on the traffic but our pace was similar. Brian then disco'd so we were battling for the lead. Towards the pit stops I was edging out a small gap to CJ but then just before he pitted I got stuck behind the GTCs in a slow, impossible to pass, or let anyone past bit of track and that little lead was gone and CJ pitted from right behind me.

I then pushed hard with a clear track in front. I still had to do 3-4 laps before I could pit. On the 3rd lap I was coming up on a few GTCs in the distance so decided to pit which given the time left would give me just enough fuel to finish without needing to adjust it in the stop. I came up on them just as we hit the last section and lost a few seconds before I pitted. Coming down the pit lane I was surprised to see my pit crew coming out as I had requested the stop. As usual if they are coming out while you pit, I killed the ignition hit enter and they milled around for 5 seconds before putting the pumps in! Just as I was finishing CJ went past and I ended up 12 seconds back. My car was quite light and on fresh tyres was able to put in some good lap times. I was slowly catching CJ but always running out of time. I got the time down to about 6 seconds and this came down to 2 as he eased to the finish in the last laps. Congrats to him on the race and the championship win.

Also congrats to Dave on a good win in the 350z and teamie Paul on his championship. Thanks again to all the GTCs with the lapping as it is very tricky here to pass in the twisty sections. Sorry to hear about all the technical difficulties people had too. Looking forward to Tuesdays sprint it should be a good race I think.
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« Reply #62 on: November 26, 2007, 11:21:45 AM +0000 »

Apologies to Martin for running into the back of him towards the end of that final corner.

Also my apologies to Martin in qualifying when I came out of the pits once, I looked behind and left (I have glance on 90 degrees to see better!), couldn't see anyone at all, but could hear an engine noise. Assumed it was on a different part of the track and then hit the side of Martin telling me exactly where he was. Then in my fluster forgot cold brakes and ploughed into Martin at the next corner. Very sorry, complete idiot mistake on my part.

Must say the pit entrance is great, very easy to get the right braking point, but the pit exit was very scarey. Even with view behind and left it's hard (see above) to see people coming and for them to get out of the way or you get out of the way of them.
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« Reply #63 on: November 26, 2007, 11:48:36 AM +0000 »

Unfortunately wasn't able to attend last night race due to traffic jam Sad
I caught a road accident while returning home which led to an almost 2 hours waiting and then 1 hour more to take the detour route.
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« Reply #64 on: November 26, 2007, 12:48:39 PM +0000 »

A rather strange race in the end for me. John was a bit too quick in qual, but 2nd was better than I expected given the ballast - SBG had +20kg, but everyone else was best part of 80kg lighter  eek
I kept in range of John for quite a while after the start, and got a decent gap back to SBG, but John started to edge away and there was nothing I could do to respond. All I could hope for was that he was on soft tyres or not on full fuel.
I was on meds all round and full fuel,took me a few laps to get the tyres up to temp before i could get any sort of rhythm.shame the engine blew,i was enjoying the track.
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« Reply #65 on: November 26, 2007, 05:08:39 PM +0000 »

First I must apologize to Shark for contact in formation lap - I couldn't stop, that's all and I also got a bump into my ...  Undecided  Stopping for the starting procedure was a bit steep, but I guess no great damage was done.  Smiley

Race started predictably, with fights of the similarly paced as me - first Jure (calm down, I'm not gonna hurt you, just overtake  Wink ) and then Shark who was all over me after his mistake. Constant and prolonged battle again, as usual, he was always ready to explit my mistakes which were numerous but big enough to get by. Holding my position was not very hard as this track is a bitch to overtake even a willing and slower car (i.e. GTC), so in-class overtakes were mostly due to errors - human and others, which happened aplenty.  Sad
Well, I held Shark till the time to pit when he expectedly ran away with a nonmatchable pace.  Smiley

I had major problems with my wheel/pedals in the second stint, growing worse towards the end. I had a gap to Gazza of some seconds and in the last laps he was gaining 2 seconds per lap. I was sure and sad to lose a position in a way where the fight would be impossible. The throttle pedal was fluttering, never truly on max, just like running out of fuel. In one case I didn't even reach the 6th on the downhill  Roll Eyes  backstraight!  Sad  Was sad and glad at the same time (sorry Gazza) when he missed his braking point on the last lap and make some sand castles. Even so he was only 8 seconds behind - I wasn't even sure I'll get to the finish line.  no   Not trying to look down on Gazza's pace. He was weeeell ahead in quali and his race pace was quicker - too many mistakes decided your race. Slower is faster?  Wink  Well done, Gazza, you're fast, you only need more stability.  Cool  Like Jure.  Tongue  (Btw, Jure, you might want to try a race on your own, without the pressure from your race engineer  Wink )

My fluttering pedals and inconsistent driving resulted in some of the more desperate moves (sorry I prevented you from fighting for position, Paul  Sad ) as every slowdown meant much more time loss than usual. Sorry to others as well, which might have difficulties - I tried to keep this to minimum.  Undecided

A really bad luck for MJ - in all seasons here I never saw a Porker engine blow up.  Sad   And good job for Pops in his Vertigo.  Smiley

As to the wheel, I still have to wait 14 days for the company to either replace my new wheel (didn't work well, warranty service, but in the store they don't have any of this model right now) or give me my money back. I intend to use this to get G25 - I just hope my foot won't get entangled into all those pedals.  Tongue   How are you getting used to it, Dave? Using manual clutch or not?  Smiley

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« Reply #66 on: November 26, 2007, 05:23:56 PM +0000 »

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(sorry I prevented you from fighting for position, Paul   )

Not a problem TT. You were in a direct battle, whereas I was several seconds back and hoping for a mistake from Dave, so it was a bit of a no-brainer to let you go.  Smiley
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« Reply #67 on: November 26, 2007, 06:30:04 PM +0000 »

Enjoyed that last night, Qualy was difficult finding space for a clear lap but was pretty happy with 5th.  Started the race well, trending carefully for the first few laps but getting into a good rythm. Was doing well staying ahead of Ruskus (his ballast obviously allowing that) for first 20 mins then made a mistake and slipped to 6th. Then some top guys starting dropping out and i found myself right up there in 3rd, even leading for 3 laps. I need to practice my pitt stops coz again i was 10+ seconds longer than most and when i came out i was behind truetom and someone else, anyway i could see i was quicker than TT but lapping cars made it hard to get really close, but as i finally managed it i got too excited and clipped that kerb that chucks you out the other way so again had to try and catch TT. I could see something was wrong with TT coz his brake lights kept flickering on and off on the straights and i caught him up and we had an epic drag up the hill and i thought that when we crossed the line that would be the end coz the time had expired so really went for it and just got him on the line but OH NO still had another lap to do but by that time i had missed braking point and went straight on very quick lol.  Looking back i was lucky not to do real damage and not finnish but luckly all was ok.

Was happy with 5th but as TT said i could and maybe should of had a 3rd .

Must say sorry to someone i clipped as a GTc car flashed me by but as i went round there was a ghost car i think right on the apex and slapped on the brakes.

Grats to CJ and other winners.
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« Reply #68 on: November 26, 2007, 07:39:24 PM +0000 »

I intend to use this to get G25 - I just hope my foot won't get entangled into all those pedals.  Tongue   How are you getting used to it, Dave? Using manual clutch or not?  Smiley

I use the clutch pedal to operate Team Speak. Cheesy But it's a definitely a significant step up from the DFP.
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« Reply #69 on: November 26, 2007, 09:38:23 PM +0000 »

First I must apologize to Shark for contact in formation lap - I couldn't stop, that's all and I also got a bump into my ...  Undecided  Stopping for the starting procedure was a bit steep, but I guess no great damage was done.  Smiley

Oh no probs. I hit Jure? in front too. First time I've seen that bad a concertina for a on a pace lap for a while actually. No idea what happened,  but no chance to stop in time despite driving so slowly at the time.
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« Reply #70 on: November 28, 2007, 04:11:53 PM +0000 »

Bit late but here goes..

Qual was bit of nitemare, very unlucky to get out on the wrong times so took 3 runs to finally get a somewhat ok timed lap in, could've gone a little faster but I figured I shouldn't poke my nose further when the cars ahead obviously had better pace so was quite comfy with starting 4th.
Took it bit easy in the opening laps with the cold conditions but no attack from behind so when car starting getting into the zone I could just stay with Paul. Had no ambitions to get ahead at that point since 4th was good and could drop some weight for next event, but then suddenly the Lambos out front ran into probs and suddenly I was in a more committing second Cheesy
Was tailed by Jeff but unfortunately he had a disco, that made it a battle between me and Paul. I knew then if I could stay with him until the stops there would be a good chance I could leapfrog him for the lead, then when I closed in traffic I hit the in-next-lap request and worked out well as I could see him still in the pits a few laps later. Gap was 12s but still alot of work to do and cant afford to drop pace much and I'll get caught. So try to keep the pace up and it stays pretty static until 15mins before the end, when I start to catch traffic at bad places and loosing my rhytm abit.
Have a comm-error with Jure in T2, he flashed me to go by so I went inside tight figured he would stick to the racingline but then just after apex he decides to move abit offline into my path and I cant avoid giving him a tap spinning him around, sorry but caught me bit off guard there. The slower class was very cooperative on this tight and twisty track tho  thumbup1
Still when track is clear I can keep the gap, but only with 2 laps left I can take it somewhat easy.
Not expecting a win here, but hey after the disco at Adria I'll take anything Grin
Only prob now is a bit heavy car for Zhuhai Shocked
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