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December 02, 2007, 09:13:42 PM +0000 - Sugo (Classic) - UKGTR Season 6 Lower Endurance
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Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Truetom
 Legends Racing
Ferrari 360 GTC (#930008) GT2 1 1:20:38.436
83.469mph
49 1:33.518
88.133mph
Pirelli -30.0kg
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Ferrari 360 GTC (#930008) GT2 2 +58.927
82.464mph
49 1:34.111
87.577mph
Pirelli -30.0kg
picnic
 Team Shark
Morgan Aero 8 (#900001) GTC 3 +1:05.852
82.348mph
49 1:34.358
87.348mph
Michelin +15.0kg
jan duijs
 
Porsche 911 GT3-RS (#4059) GTC 4 +1L
81.658mph
48 1:35.512
86.293mph
Michelin +10.0kg
Finn
 Over The Hill Racing
Ferrari 360 Modena (#4058) GTC 5 +1:28.769
80.189mph
48 1:37.226
84.771mph
Pirelli +10.0kg
Madd-RIP
 Team RVS
Porsche 996 GT3 Cup (#510029) GT3 6 +2L
78.528mph
47 1:37.725
84.339mph
Pirelli +70.0kg
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 996 GT3 Cup (#920013) GT3 7 +3L 46 1:39.705
82.664mph
unknown
Pirelli +70.0kg
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
BMW M3 GTR (#920001) GT2 8 +10L 39 1:33.938
87.739mph
unknown
Michelin +55.0kg
Prof
 Team Shark
Morgan Aero 8 (#900001) GTC 9 +12L 37 1:35.993
85.860mph
unknown
Michelin -15.0kg
pribeiro
 Sonic Racing Team
BMW Z3M (#3115) GT3 10 37 1:37.940
84.153mph
unknown
Dunlop +10.0kg
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Dodge Viper Competition Coupé (#4115) GT3 11 37 1:41.267
81.389mph
unknown
Dunlop +40.0kg
Andy Eves
 
Ferrari 360 GTC (#4065) GT2 12 +13L 36 1:37.139
84.847mph
unknown
Pirelli -10.0kg
Paul968
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS (#930013) GTC 13 +14L 35 1:34.795
86.945mph
unknown
Michelin +90.0kg
Don
 Legends Racing
BMW M3 GTR (#970008) GT2 14 35 1:37.100
84.881mph
unknown
Michelin +5.0kg
Roadrunner
 Racin24-7
BMW M3 GTR (#4143) GT2 15 +22L 27 1:34.445
87.268mph
unknown
Michelin +25.0kg
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Nissan 350Z (#990001) GTC 16 27 1:35.248
86.532mph
unknown
Michelin +43.0kg
Munkez
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ferrari 360 GTC (#760052) GT2 17 +23L 26 1:36.924
85.036mph
unknown
Pirelli -30.0kg
John
 Team Pseudo Racing
BMW M3 GTR (#880052) GT2 18 26 1:33.827
87.842mph
unknown
Michelin +10.0kg
R. Midderhoff
 
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#770046) GT2 19 +24L 25 1:36.079
85.783mph
unknown
Michelin +5.0kg
psuedo
 Team Pseudo Racing
Dodge Viper Competition Coupé (#720052) GT3 20 +34L 15 1:42.192
80.652mph
suspension
Dunlop -10.0kg
MortenS
 Team Shark Junior
Nissan 350Z (#990003) GTC 21 +36L 13 1:42.006
80.799mph
unknown
Dunlop -27.0kg
Pedro Silva
 Sonic Racing Team
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#980031) GT2 22 +44L 5 1:41.176
81.462mph
unknown
Michelin +0.0kg
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« Reply #60 on: December 03, 2007, 01:49:49 PM +0000 »

I had hards all round...they over heated but felt alot better after sitting in the gravel trap for what felt like 5 mins.

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« Reply #61 on: December 03, 2007, 01:51:05 PM +0000 »

Not being up on the 'technical' bits myself, I could (easily) be wrong but, I put in some offline praccy in various wet conditions using various tyre combo's yesterday, and didn't really find any over/under heating tyre issues, once the correct combo was found. But during last night my tyres either melted on the outlap or never got above 50 deg anywhere! Similar conditions to praccy (rain wise) but the ambient and track temps were much lower.
Could it be that the tyre physics in GTR2 can't cope/haven't been designed to cope with the exteme temperatures?
Offline, no matter what the wet setting is at, the track temp always seems to be in the 20/28 deg range.
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« Reply #62 on: December 03, 2007, 02:01:20 PM +0000 »

I started with soft softs as I've been caught out before with hard hards and the track looked very glossy and raining hard and there was lightning bolts on the weather forecast for me too. I switched to hard hards for the second stint with 30-35 minutes remaining when my softs softs were melting like chocolate despite running off-line as much as possible. It's basically luck of the draw. I was prepared to come in for hards if softs were not the right choice. Qualifying conditions changed a lot so it was a real lottery on the correct tyre choice. Good to spice things up. Smiley

P.S. If this were a democracy (which it isn't and quite right too! Dictatorships rule ok! Wink) I would vote to extend the current championship by two races to make it have the same number of races as it was originally intended to have. I don't understand the need to finish before Christmas. A break for Christmas is fine imho and start again in the new year. People don't dissappear off the face of the earth just cause the digits in the year changes. I feel adding back in the 2 races that were missed would make the championship fairer and make the racing more exciting.
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« Reply #63 on: December 03, 2007, 02:05:34 PM +0000 »

I'd be up for a re-run if too if it was dictated decided. Just one thing....WAIT FOR A DRY DAY  laugh
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« Reply #64 on: December 03, 2007, 02:08:43 PM +0000 »

P.S. If this were a democracy (which it isn't and quite right too! Dictatorships rule ok! Wink) I would vote to extend the current championship by two races to make it have the same number of races as it was originally intended to have. I don't understand the need to finish before Christmas. A break for Christmas is fine imho and start again in the new year. People don't dissappear off the face of the earth just cause the digits in the year changes. I feel adding back in the 2 races that were missed would make the championship fairer and make the racing more exciting.

Well spoken. I also don't understand why stop before the fat bearded bloke shows up.
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« Reply #65 on: December 03, 2007, 02:10:09 PM +0000 »

here here,i agree with simon,why try to end the current season at xmas.
Add some races,but have a break over xmas.
I cant understand the rush to finish.
We can resume the rest of the season after new year.
I also vote for more races in a season as a whole,so who's with me.
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« Reply #66 on: December 03, 2007, 02:16:08 PM +0000 »

Well spoken. I also don't understand why stop before the fat bearded bloke shows up.

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« Reply #67 on: December 03, 2007, 02:27:41 PM +0000 »

here here,i agree with simon,why try to end the current season at xmas.
Add some races,but have a break over xmas.

It's hard enough to fill the grids for the last couple of races at the best of times, with a gap of 2 weeks in the middle... er... we did that already didn't we with the server problems. Cheesy I'll think about it but no promises...
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« Reply #68 on: December 03, 2007, 02:29:15 PM +0000 »

Could postpone the super endurance and run the last event on the 23rd

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« Reply #69 on: December 03, 2007, 02:32:43 PM +0000 »

i ran with hard wets both stints and they were perfect for the conditions. Even when the dry line started appearing towards the end of race, a couple of offline trips down the straights kept the tyres cool.
Soft wets were showing +1-2 wear after just 2-3 qually laps so i knew they wouldnt last.

I still think the result should stand after so much bloody hard work in a wet race for those of us that were still there at the end or i might just as well have quit halfway through. If it was going to be declared void why no message from 'the server' to say so and not waste our time for nearly 2 hours. I dont remember the GTL race being postponed when 6 or so couldnt join it the other night, so i lost potential points there too.  Angry

I would prefer more rounds to a season as well. Why do we only have 6 rounds? its not really a championship is it? It makes no allowance for drivers having to miss the odd round through other real world commitments or build up a challenge as the season goes on, both individual and team performance wise.
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« Reply #70 on: December 03, 2007, 02:40:13 PM +0000 »

I thought it was 8 rounds,apart from the hiccups we've had this season.
Any thoughts to extending a season to say 10 rounds.
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« Reply #71 on: December 03, 2007, 02:41:48 PM +0000 »

I took soft wets on my Morgan at the start, these lasted quite well as I struggeled to get them warm. After about 45 mins they did start to show much more warmth and I started to struggle with a sliding back end. What with the track appearing a bit drier I put hards on for the last stint. These didn't overheat but I couldn't quite match my pace with the softs when they were working well.

Before the stop there was little difference between the pace MJ and I had. After there was little I could do and MJ was around 1 sec a lap quicker than me. But with the warmer temps/less water I would have been slower still I think on the softs as they would have been too hot.
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« Reply #72 on: December 03, 2007, 02:44:40 PM +0000 »

I have suggested for two seasons running that 10 rounds with the best 8 scoring towards the championship, but it's never been considered.

As we race online, things like the occasional disco we can't control. Also like said before, real world commitments sometimes take over making it impossible to make every race.


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« Reply #73 on: December 03, 2007, 02:48:00 PM +0000 »

I still think the result should stand after so much bloody hard work in a wet race for those of us that were still there at the end or i might just as well have quit halfway through. If it was going to be declared void why no message from 'the server' to say so and not waste our time for nearly 2 hours. I dont remember the GTL race being postponed when 6 or so couldnt join it the other night, so i lost potential points there too.  Angry

I can't speak for UKGTL because I don't really run it, but we only had 6 finishers, MJ, and the vast majority of retirements were through no fault of the drivers. At best if it happened in the 'real world' you'd only get half points and I'll be buggered if I'm putting in a massive effort to code that into our system for single bizarre race. Tongue

I would prefer more rounds to a season as well. Why do we only have 6 rounds? its not really a championship is it? It makes no allowance for drivers having to miss the odd round through other real world commitments or build up a challenge as the season goes on, both individual and team performance wise.

As you may recall we lost one round when the old server hosts went bust - we certainly never planned to have only 6 races, and hopefully it will only affect Lower Endurance and not the other series.

I thought it was 8 rounds,apart from the hiccups we've had this season.
Any thoughts to extending a season to say 10 rounds.

A normal season would be 8 rounds, but as I said above we already lost one complete round. If we do add an extra round after Grotmas and attendence is poor I'll be very, very hacked off indeed.

I have suggested for two seasons running that 10 rounds with the best 8 scoring towards the championship, but it's never been considered.

Just because we haven't done something doesn't mean we haven't considered it.  no
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« Reply #74 on: December 03, 2007, 02:50:15 PM +0000 »

I took ards all round and they really stank Smiley. However, they didn't get any worse so I didn't need to change them and therefore jumped Madd in pits.

I can't believe that some want the results to stand from last night. I did well but I wouldn't gain any satisfaction from beating PR and so many others that way. To be fair, if we have time for another race which we should, I think it should be at Sugo and with the same conditions. Even though I never want to go around that place again.  
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