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January 20, 2008, 08:58:46 PM +0000 - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - UKGTR Season 7 Lower Endurance (GT2/3)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Joss
 Team Shark Junior
BMW M3 GTR (#920003) GT2 1 1:47.163
107.806mph
1 1:20:55.956
102.301mph
43 1:48.621
106.359mph
Michelin +25.0kg
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
SEAT Toledo GT (#3103) GT2 2 +0.667
107.139mph
2 +0.258
102.296mph
43 1:48.355
106.620mph
Michelin +15.0kg
Zacari
 Team Shark Junior
Ferrari 360 GTC (#970003) GT2 6 +1.466
106.351mph
3 +43.793
101.387mph
43 1:49.234
105.762mph
Pirelli -10.0kg
Kerr
 Team Shark Junior
BMW M3 GTR (#920003) GT2 5 +1.364
106.451mph
4 +1:12.514
100.796mph
43 1:49.373
105.628mph
Michelin +25.0kg
Carl Hart
 Racin24-7
BMW M3 GTR (#4143) GT2 4 +1.351
106.464mph
5 +1:31.919
100.401mph
43 1:49.780
105.236mph
Michelin +25.0kg
BACKO
 Team Pseudo Racing
BMW M3 GTR (#880052) GT2 7 +1.853
105.974mph
6 (+2) +1:38.918
100.259mph
43 1:49.286
105.712mph
Michelin +25.0kg
stnasky
 
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#4066) GT2 12 +3.183
104.696mph
7 +1:45.334
100.129mph
43 1:49.571
105.437mph
Pirelli +20.0kg
Andy Eves
 
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#4050) GT2 8 +2.388
105.456mph
8 +1L
99.488mph
42 1:50.836
104.233mph
Michelin +20.0kg
evert blommert
 
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#4060) GT2 15 +3.861
104.057mph
9 +56.804
98.343mph
42 1:50.781
104.285mph
Michelin +20.0kg
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 996 GT3 Cup (#920013) GT3 20 +6.331
101.792mph
10 +2L
97.313mph
41 1:54.131
101.224mph
Pirelli +10.0kg
Paul968
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 996 GT3 Cup (#920013) GT3 19 +6.326
101.797mph
11 +2.264
97.267mph
41 1:54.207
101.157mph
Pirelli +50.0kg
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Porsche 996 GT3 Cup (#510029) GT3 18 +5.800
102.271mph
12 +21.961
96.876mph
41 1:54.355
101.026mph
Pirelli +10.0kg
R. Midderhoff
 
BMW Z3M (#3115) GT3 23 +7.559
100.703mph
13 +24.711
96.821mph
41 1:54.877
100.567mph
Dunlop -10.0kg
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Dodge Viper Competition Coupé (#4115) GT3 22 +6.924
101.263mph
14 +1:17.984
95.778mph
41 1:54.756
100.673mph
Dunlop +10.0kg
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
BMW Z3M (#3115) GT3 24 +7.731
100.552mph
15 +1:29.366
95.558mph
41 1:55.450
100.068mph
Dunlop -10.0kg
Madd-RIP
 Team RVS
Porsche 996 GT3 Cup (#510029) GT3 21 +6.877
101.305mph
16 +3L
95.002mph
40 1:55.110
100.363mph
Pirelli +30.0kg
H@L9000
 
Dodge Viper Competition Coupé (#4115) GT3 26 +8.467
99.912mph
17 +4L
91.767mph
39 1:56.154
99.461mph
Dunlop +10.0kg
pribeiro
 Sonic Racing Team
SEAT Toledo GT (#3103) GT2 9 +2.591
105.261mph
18 +5L 38 1:50.151
104.882mph
engine
Michelin +15.0kg
Ade
 
Porsche 996 GT3 Cup (#4123) GT3 27 +10.246
98.398mph
19 +6L 37 1:57.404
98.402mph
fuel
Pirelli +10.0kg
JonM_uk
 Team Shark Junior
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#960003) GT2 3 +0.762
107.045mph
20 +8L
81.689mph
35 1:48.784
106.200mph
Michelin +41.0kg
picnic
 Team Shark
Dodge Viper Competition Coupé (#4115) GT3 25 +8.238
100.110mph
21 35 1:55.125
100.350mph
engine
Dunlop +10.0kg
Jimmie
 
Ferrari 360 GTC (#4062) GT2 10 +2.843
105.020mph
22 +15L 28 1:50.021
105.006mph
engine
Pirelli -10.0kg
jan duijs
 
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#4099) GT2 13 +3.211
104.670mph
23 +20L 23 1:51.667
103.458mph
unknown
Michelin +20.0kg
Pedro Silva
 Sonic Racing Team
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#980031) GT2 11 +3.014
104.857mph
24 +23L 20 1:51.602
103.518mph
unknown
Michelin +20.0kg
Truetom
 Legends Racing
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#990008) GT2 14 +3.497
104.399mph
25 +31L 12 1:50.673
104.387mph
unknown
Pirelli +40.0kg
spanner
 
BMW M3 GTR (#4143) GT2 16 +4.145
103.791mph
26 12 1:52.351
102.828mph
unknown
Michelin +25.0kg
will16v
 Prodigy Racing
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#210181) GT2 27 +33L 10 1:52.668
102.539mph
accident
Dunlop +20.0kg
Roadrunner
 Racin24-7
BMW M3 GTR (#4143) GT2 28 +36L 7 1:50.978
104.100mph
unknown
Michelin +25.0kg
Stewprovo
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 996 GT3-RSR (#980013) GT2 17 +5.416
102.620mph
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unknown
Michelin +20.0kg

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Server replay time: 286s

Robert Midderhoff fails to engage pit-speed limiter. Which also makes it harder for drivers behind to be prepared for the start.


Server replay time: 2024s

Brian Kerr is lapping Simon Gymer on the inside just before a left hander. BACKO is following Brian close, but brakes to late, bumping Brian into a spin. BACKO then slows to let Brian pass, but he slows in the middle of the track, holding up Simon so that Peter Allnutt catches up with Simon.

  • BACKOpenalty — Rear Ending — 2 places lost


Server replay time: 2816s

Soon after BACKO leaves pit he's passed by Mark McClean. BACKO seems to be faster and is trying to pass. In one right-hander BACKO manages to get on the inside, but gets wide on exit, pushing Mark off the track. The contact was light and BACKO was mostly passed Mark.

  • BACKOwarning — Side by Side Contact

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« Reply #105 on: January 20, 2008, 11:34:40 PM +0000 »

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« Reply #106 on: January 20, 2008, 11:55:03 PM +0000 »

Very happy with 3rd in the Ferrari after a long time out.  I'm not suprised only 1 other chap took the 360 as it's an awkward car, but by the end of the race I was quite at home with it Smiley

Quali was 6th, took lots of fuel and meds F+R for the race.  Lap 3 got lumped off at very high speed, but other than that the entire race was incident-free.  I managed to throw it off the road with Pablo persuing me around lap 15, but that was me braking too late Embarrassed  Pitted around half-way and made up alot of time in the pits, came out not far behind Jon.  After his stop for grub and Pribero's pit stop I was clear in 3rd which was fine until the end.

Grats to everyone who had fun Grin

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« Reply #107 on: January 21, 2008, 12:08:09 AM +0000 »

Calmed down a bit now, man that was the best race I've ever had on GTR2 - better than Donnington S4 Grin

Q2 was my usual Kerr-confusing tactic; practise for 20 mins on my race setup and then make a qually setup with about 6 minutes to go and hope for the best. I couldn't believe the margin myself!   Lips Sealed

Once again I cocked up the start thinking I should wait until the line....except the start and finish line are in different places  Roll Eyes Way to go me. Hope that didn't cause any problems. I'm a liability on pole, I hope Jeff gets it next time!  laugh

The race started out close and I slowly eased away from Jeff and Jon. I think I owe an apology to Picnic when lapping him. I thought you were letting me through buddy....but on viewing the replay I should have stayed behind you through those first fast bends. The Viper's just as fast as the M3 on the straight so without a lift off it's difficult to power past....bugger  Embarrassed I hope I didn't mess  up your race, but won't mind a mod wrapping my wrists for that one. Sad

Jeff then pitted and something happened to Jon - I was concentrating soo hard I still have no idea why you ended up 8 laps down mate!  laugh I was planning on staying out til I had 20 litres left, but was losing 1.5 seconds a lap, so came in early and adjusted the fuel manually. I came out alongside Jeff. Not in front, or behind - alongside. How's that for close!  Grin Grin

We then had a fantastic battle to the end of the race, first behind Pribero (great defending mate, neither me or Jeff could pass you!) and then just fighting between ourselves. With about 3 laps to go I really pushed and realised if I went into Abbey slower, I exited faster and got a run into the vital for me sector 3. I managed to get Jeff once into Brooklands but he just powered past on the straight and through Copse, I tried a few places on the last 2 laps, once round the outside of Vale, which failed. I'd never tried Priory but knew I could carry more speed there and tried surprising Jeff on the last lap, but he's too wise for surprises and guarded well. He then missed the apex only slightly and I just snicked alongside......held the inside on Brooklands and cut Jeff off on the exit, exiting Luffield in front to win by 2 tenths.

Cheers for the close racing Jeff, it's always fun dicing with people at the front in races, but races like this and Donnington S4 are what will make me look back on my GTR2 days and smile.

Best Race Ever  laugh angel Grin Smiley
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« Reply #108 on: January 21, 2008, 12:28:10 AM +0000 »

Once again I cocked up the start thinking I should wait until the line....except the start and finish line are in different places  Roll Eyes Way to go me. Hope that didn't cause any problems. I'm a liability on pole, I hope Jeff gets it next time!  laugh

Deal Tongue. You were lucky I didn't take advantage of your mistake, as I was allowed to floor it as we crossed the line. But your doubt made me doubt Tongue, so by the time I realised and called you an idiot Wink, it was too late Grin

Jeff then pitted and something happened to Jon - I was concentrating soo hard I still have no idea why you ended up 8 laps down mate! 

I'll let Jon answer this question Tongue:

Had a good race but I hadn't had eaten enough for tea and cus of the old diabetes had to make a pitstop for food Embarrassed Grin 13mins later all was well but was 8 laps down. Was a good race till then.

Are you still concentrating "hard". Probably doesn't need more explaining after all that dirty talk on Team Speak Tongue
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« Reply #109 on: January 21, 2008, 12:35:38 AM +0000 »

Team Shark Hardies / Team Shark Softies
Team Shark Good / Team Shark Evil
Team Shark Oldies / Team Shark Period

Our TS channel is now a disgusting place to be with Jeff, Jon and me on it. It's the porn watching/drug taking/chocolate sprinkle-loving Dutch influence I swear!  laugh
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« Reply #110 on: January 21, 2008, 12:49:09 AM +0000 »

Our TS channel is now a disgusting place to be with Jeff, Jon and me on it. It's the porn watching/drug taking/chocolate sprinkle-loving Dutch influence I swear!  laugh

Don't come between a Dutchy and his "hagelslag" Grin. Yes...try and pronounce that Tongue. And if you can, try "Scheveningen"  lol. Always cracks me up when you guys try to pronounce a Dutch word/name  Tongue
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« Reply #111 on: January 21, 2008, 08:42:13 AM +0000 »

I must say that after making a 90 min race at R2P I was a bit spent. So a heavy RSR here was a bit over the edge, as it felt ... dead.  Sad
In the light of this event I feel liberated from obligation of ballast in future events.   

After colliding with a green RSR I had understeer and the car was going even slower. Got fed up and quit. Not a good start of the season.  Sad

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« Reply #112 on: January 21, 2008, 09:01:37 AM +0000 »

I think I owe an apology to Picnic when lapping him. I thought you were letting me through buddy....but on viewing the replay I should have stayed behind you through those first fast bends. The Viper's just as fast as the M3 on the straight so without a lift off it's difficult to power past

Absolutely no way should you get done for that. I stayed left to let you passed then as we got close to the corner thought "why haven't you come passed yet". Trouble is this was my first race in the Viper and I hadn't appreciated the speeds were that close  Undecided I would have lifted earlier and a bit harder if I had understood the performance differences. Rack one up to experience Wink
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« Reply #113 on: January 21, 2008, 09:42:36 AM +0000 »

One of those races where you never get really close to another car but are under pressure the whole time. I was quite pleased with the qual time and relieved to sneak ahead of SBG by a tiny amount. As expected, Dan pulled away after the start and I kept a small gap to SBG. Things stayed this way till late in the stint when I bit off a bit too much curb at the last corner and lost the place. After identical pitstops we came out in 1st and 2nd, and then it was a case of applying pressure and hoping for an opportunity from a lapping car, but it never came. SBG was frustratingly consistent and although I was starting to close in towards the end I was having to push right to the limit. I went over the limit in the end which opened up the gap for the last few laps and that's how it ended.

Congrats to Ian on a very solid drive and to Freq for the last gasp win. As far as the Beemer is concerned, everybody knows it is at a disadvantage, so I don't really understand why it doesn't get less weight (or a power hike). Having said that, Robert wasn't that far off the pace in it, so maybe it doesn't suit your style Simon? (it does need ragging a bit).
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« Reply #114 on: January 21, 2008, 09:55:47 AM +0000 »

Bad start of the season.Set the car up for wet weather (wing 9 etc.).Rain never came so that was bad luck,then on the pitstop i just cruised past my crew( in practise my box was at the end of the pitlane,now it was in the front),out again and another go next lap,change of tiers and....stop and go  Embarrassed .Pitlimiter on all the way how can that be??
All hope gone for a nice fight with the midfield boys.Must practise these darn pitstops  Wink


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« Reply #115 on: January 21, 2008, 10:01:27 AM +0000 »

Nobody took the Vertigo, so we don't know if the torque thingy works.  Sad  Might this be a better way to speed up slower cars than have more weight on faster? That RSR felt really blah, blah after R2P race. Or did we discuss this before? I don't remember, really.  Embarrassed

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« Reply #116 on: January 21, 2008, 10:08:57 AM +0000 »

Bad start of the season.Set the car up for wet weather (wing 9 etc.).Rain never came so that was bad luck,then on the pitstop i just cruised past my crew( in practise my box was at the end of the pitlane,now it was in the front),out again and another go next lap,change of tiers and....stop and go  Embarrassed .Pitlimiter on all the way how can that be??
All hope gone for a nice fight with the midfield boys.Must practise these darn pitstops  Wink


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The forecast I saw was for a chance of rain, but hey, you take your chances at times.

I was not far away from Silverstone all weekend and drove back home on the Sunday. It was rather dull and cold and the rain had been threatening with minor downpours.

I was surprised to find the game weather file started the race in the nice sun and 25 degree heat.

I had been struggling to keep my rear left tyre temperature down and the heat only added to this.
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« Reply #117 on: January 21, 2008, 10:26:57 AM +0000 »

I understand what your saying Shark, but us 811 boys were evenly matched and I don't think we should ballast ourselves to be competitive with the Bimmer. Paul would have had to carry at least a 150kg Shocked Over the course of the season I'm sure the Viper will be at least a match for the 811, seeing Dave/Bob were bang on our pace in S6. I think its shaping up well (if your not in the Z3 Wink)

I never said you should SBG. I was hoping for more Z3Ms and for me to be better in it than I was.

I certainly don't expect the faster drivers to put on ballast so that slower drivers can catch up. Faster drivers and cars deserve to be there 100%. The only reason to add ballast is to make your race more fun so unless you didn't have fun don't change your ballast.

The race started out close and I slowly eased away from Jeff and Jon. I think I owe an apology to Picnic when lapping him. I thought you were letting me through buddy....but on viewing the replay I should have stayed behind you through those first fast bends. The Viper's just as fast as the M3 on the straight so without a lift off it's difficult to power past....bugger  Embarrassed I hope I didn't mess  up your race, but won't mind a mod wrapping my wrists for that one. Sad

Cheating Junior members.  Wink First race and he's already into the ways of the dark side.  Shocked The boy learns fast! whistling

Why don't you join GT2. I need help from another TS driver as I'm alone now  Tongue

I must admit, something has gone wrong with the team division. Undecided
I was not expecting all the Junior drivers to be driving GT2 this season so it was a surprise to see 4 fast Junior drivers all in that class. Perhaps one or 2 of them could drop down to GT3 to add to the team competition there?

As far as the Beemer is concerned, everybody knows it is at a disadvantage, so I don't really understand why it doesn't get less weight (or a power hike). Having said that, Robert wasn't that far off the pace in it, so maybe it doesn't suit your style Simon? (it does need ragging a bit).

Rob was still off the pace by 1.7 seconds in qualifying, although impressive in the race and my hat goes off to him. Yes it could probably do with some more car ballast off, but as I said I knew it wasn't competitive before I started. It would be nice to see it balanced a bit more in the mid-season refresh, but I'd like to see how it does against the other cars at slower tracks first too.

I did end up throwing it about, but in the end I found smoothness made my laps better as usual and throwing it around just caused the tyres to shred. I also never know what wing to run at Silverstone. I ended up with 2 and 7 which I'm sure was too much.

It's fine. I knew it was way off the pace before I chose so I'm not complaining it was slower than the 911 as I knew it would be hence (hence MY choice to not take ballast).

I'm looking for the challenge to see what I can do with it. I need 2 or 3 races to nail the setup as I really didn't have it sorted under braking especially which was really compromising my ability to race it. I think in retrospect I should have practiced first to get a setup sorted, but hoped with it being the first race I could get away with no practice and no setup.

Unfortunately last night the track contributed to the Z3M being very uncompetitive for me, so I hope it will be better at slower circuits as Silverstone is a power circuit and I was unprepared.

I was surprised by how much tyre wear the Z3M used actually. It was pretty good on fuel (I didn't need to add any fuel when I changed my tyres), but I did need 2 sets of mediums to get to the end.

Nobody took the Vertigo, so we don't know if the torque thingy works.  Sad  Might this be a better way to speed up slower cars than have more weight on faster? That RSR felt really blah, blah after R2P race. Or did we discuss this before? I don't remember, really.  Embarrassed

Vertigo is GTC not GT2.
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« Reply #118 on: January 21, 2008, 10:28:05 AM +0000 »

Did anyone else have any problems with disco's/lockups last night, as it seemed that as soon as the server filled up, it became a bit un-stable. Or, was it just my pc being a *&%@  censored
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« Reply #119 on: January 21, 2008, 11:06:44 AM +0000 »

Did anyone else have any problems with disco's/lockups last night, as it seemed that as soon as the server filled up, it became a bit un-stable. Or, was it just my pc being a *&%@  censored

There were issues last night, especially during P1 and Q2. Trouble is this is a 3rd party track and we're also running the 32 slot server tweak in GTR2Manager. Sadly we never got enough people on the server to test the 32 slot bit out when we asked for support to test it in a recent fun race Sad I suspect we won't learn much until we race a standard track and get 28+ drivers on the server.

I did run a ping to the server last night due to the issues and got 100% response so I don't think there were network issues.
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