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Question: Show of hands... what class?  (Voting closed: January 26, 2008, 03:22:01 PM +0000)
GT1 - 17 (47.2%)
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  • U7UE Silverstone: January 27, 2008
January 27, 2008, 08:58:51 PM +0000 - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - UKGTR Season 7 Upper Endurance (GT1/C)
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 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Joss
 Team Shark Junior
Saleen S7-R (#890003) GT1 2 +0.113
114.453mph
1 1:20:14.095
107.990mph
45 1:41.902
113.372mph
Pirelli +5.0kg
Zacari
 Team Shark Junior
Lister Storm (#860003) GT1 4 +0.300
114.242mph
2 +10.051
107.766mph
45 1:42.208
113.032mph
Michelin -5.0kg
Kerr
 Team Shark Junior
Lister Storm (#860003) GT1 3 +0.206
114.348mph
3 +12.489
107.711mph
45 1:42.317
112.912mph
Michelin -5.0kg
Paul Richards
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 575 GTC (#940013) GT1 5 +0.667
113.829mph
4 +22.931
107.479mph
45 1:43.096
112.059mph
Michelin +10.0kg
Truetom
 Legends Racing
Lister Storm (#3014) GT1 10 +1.881
112.483mph
5 +1:06.308
106.523mph
45 1:43.527
111.592mph
Michelin -4.0kg
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#980001) GT1 9 +1.880
112.484mph
6 +1:33.403
105.935mph
45 1:43.651
111.459mph
Michelin +12.0kg
Carl Hart
 Racin24-7
Lister Storm (#4014) GT1 8 +1.866
112.500mph
7 +1:42.379
105.742mph
45 1:43.622
111.490mph
Michelin -5.0kg
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Maserati MC12 (#870013) GT1 1 1:40.826
114.582mph
8 +1:45.491
105.675mph
45 1:42.732
112.456mph
Pirelli -20.0kg
Gazza49er
 Team Pseudo Racing
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#740052) GT1 7 +1.847
112.520mph
9 +1L
105.449mph
44 1:43.746
111.357mph
Michelin +12.0kg
pribeiro
 Sonic Racing Team
Ferrari 575 GTC (#4011) GT1 11 +2.057
112.291mph
10 +15.551
105.110mph
44 1:44.703
110.339mph
Pirelli +10.0kg
R. Midderhoff
 
Chevrolet Corvette C5-R (#3106) GT1 16 +3.446
110.795mph
11 (+3) +2L
103.031mph
43 1:45.347
109.664mph
Dunlop -15.0kg
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#830001) GTC 17 +8.160
106.003mph
12 +1:45.204
100.831mph
43 1:49.894
105.127mph
Dunlop -30.0kg
JonM_uk
 Team Shark Junior
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#830003) GTC 18 +8.709
105.471mph
13 +3L
100.067mph
42 1:51.052
104.031mph
Dunlop -30.0kg
Paul968
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS (#930013) GTC 19 +9.113
105.084mph
14 +1.807
100.030mph
42 1:51.063
104.020mph
Michelin +70.0kg
jan duijs
 
Porsche 911 GT3-RS (#4059) GTC 23 +10.089
104.159mph
15 +1:19.017
98.463mph
42 1:51.801
103.334mph
Michelin +30.0kg
picnic
 Team Shark
TVR Tuscan T400R (#940001) GTC 25 +10.149
104.103mph
16 +4L
98.309mph
41 1:51.804
103.331mph
Dunlop +5.0kg
Andy Eves
 
Porsche 911 GT3-RS (#141492) GTC 24 +10.141
104.110mph
17 +1.412
98.281mph
41 1:52.043
103.111mph
Michelin +30.0kg
Darren Seal
 Legends Racing
Morgan Aero 8 (#860008) GTC 26 +10.512
103.763mph
18 +3.655
98.235mph
41 1:51.957
103.190mph
Michelin +10.0kg
evert blommert
 
Porsche 911 GT3-RS (#4061) GTC 28 +10.986
103.324mph
19 +12.778
98.049mph
41 1:52.326
102.851mph
Pirelli +30.0kg
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS (#810008) GTC 21 +9.905
104.332mph
20 +1:39.725
96.316mph
41 1:51.026
104.055mph
Michelin +30.0kg
Munkez
 Team Pseudo Racing
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#770052) GTC 32 +13.016
101.481mph
21 +1:50.631
96.103mph
41 1:54.094
101.257mph
Dunlop -30.0kg
spanner
 
Mosler MT900R (#3101) GTC 30 +12.299
102.124mph
22 +5L
95.667mph
40 1:52.995
102.242mph
Dunlop +20.0kg
Prof
 Team Shark
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#830001) GTC 29 +11.180
103.145mph
23 +4.627
95.576mph
40 1:54.392
100.993mph
Dunlop -30.0kg
psuedo
 Team Pseudo Racing
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#770052) GTC 27 +10.940
103.366mph
24 +11L 34 1:52.177
102.987mph
unknown
Dunlop -30.0kg
H@L9000
 
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#4001) GT1 12 +2.131
112.210mph
25 +13L 32 1:44.065
111.015mph
engine
Michelin +20.0kg
BACKO
 Team Pseudo Racing
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#740052) GT1 14 +2.706
111.587mph
26 32 1:44.069
111.011mph
engine
Michelin +12.0kg
popabawa
 Legends Racing
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#940008) GTC 20 +9.629
104.593mph
27 +20L 25 1:52.379
102.802mph
unknown
Dunlop -29.0kg
Jimmie
 
Ferrari 575 GTC (#110554) GT1 13 +2.563
111.741mph
28 +23L 22 1:44.248
110.820mph
engine
Michelin +10.0kg
Mr_B.A.Baracus
 
Maserati MC12 (#4033) GT1 15 +3.322
110.927mph
29 +27L 18 1:45.556
109.447mph
unknown
Pirelli -20.0kg
Don
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS (#810008) GTC 31 +12.792
101.681mph
30 +33L 12 1:54.774
100.657mph
unknown
Michelin +30.0kg
Adam Parle
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS (#810008) GTC 22 +9.970
104.271mph
31 +35L 10 1:52.192
102.974mph
unknown
Michelin +31.0kg
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#950001) GT1 6 +1.418
112.993mph
32 +43L 2 1:48.930
106.057mph
unknown
Michelin +25.0kg

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 260s

As the cars are atarting to engange speed limiter at the end of pace lap, some car make contact with cars in front.

The first cars are fine, but Zacari(P4) is very close to Brian(P3) before Brian engages his limiter. So when Brian engages his limiter, he slows a tad sudden forcing Zacari to make contact. This then propagate through the field.

Just before he rear ends Zacari, Paul Richards(P5) engages his limiter; before Zacari enables his. This makes Simon(P6) close up before engaging his limiter, only to involve him as Paul then rear ends Zacari.

Gazza49er(P7) is closing his gap very fast as the cars in front are closing to engange limiter, and has to brake a bit hard to avoid (which he doesn't) rear ending them as they make contact. He also engages his limiter before the car in front.

H@L9000(P12) engages his limiter before the car in front.

Truetom(P10) uses 15 sec to close up and engage limiter after P9 has engaged his limiter.

Popabawa(P20) engages his limiter before the car in front of him.

Andy Eves(P24) engages his limiter before the car in front of him.

Jan Duijs(P23) engages his limiter before the car in front of him.

Mark Jonso(21) first engages his limiter. But as he sees he could close some more before engaging he disengages the limiter, closes up, end reinganges it. This probably has something to do with all the confusion ahead though.

Paul968(P19) engages his limiter before the car in front of him.

Evert Blommert(P28) engages his limiter before the car in front of him.

Jon Moore(P18) is engaging his limiter long before Ruskus(P17).

Don Wright(P31) engages his limiter before the car in front of him.

Ruskus(P17) is able to avoid the accident in front as the pace lap is nearing it's end, but is very slow to catch up with the field and to engage his limiter as the field is back in the correct line.


Summary:
The first driver follow the prosedure according to rules, but then P4 is too close before P3 engages his limiter. P5 then giver nurishment to this ripple by closing and engaging his limiter before the car in front, so he rear ends that car. This then get new nurishment as the wave progresses through the field and many other drivers either turn on their limiter too early, turns it on, off and back on, or engaes it too late.

If anyone is unsecure about the rolling start procedure, just read about it in the "Start here" section.

Correction 17feb08:
Ruskus(P17) gets a bit confused by Midderhoff(P16) who disappears just as the first stock up begins, he then waits for him to reappear in front, and doesn't see that he's now in 12th. I'm therefore reducing his warning to an advice, and removing the bit about him not closing up properly.

  • Andy Evescaution — Engaging Limiter Too Early
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded
  • Don (Don Wright)caution — Engaging Limiter Too Early
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded
  • evert blommert (Evert Blommert)caution — Engaging Limiter Too Early
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded
  • Gazza49erwarning — Engaging Limiter Too Early
  • Gazza49ercaution — Closing very fast as the cars in front are about to engage limiter
  • H@L9000caution — Engaging Limiter Too Early
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded
  • jan duijs (Jan Duijs)caution — Engaging Limiter Too Early
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded
  • Jeffrey (Jeffrey Ruskus)advice — Engages Limiter a bit late
  • JonM_uk (Jon Moore)caution — Engaging Limiter Too Early
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded
  • Mark J (Mark Jonzo)caution — Turns on limiter too early and disengages it again
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded
  • Paul Richardswarning — Engaging Limiter Too Early
  • Paul968caution — Engaging Limiter Too Early
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded
  • popabawacaution — Engaging Limiter Too Early
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded
  • Truetomwarning — Engages Limiter Very Late Before Start
  • Zacariwarning — Rear Ending


Quote from starting procedure:

<Approximately 20 seconds before crossing the start line the leader shall slow to pit speed and engage their pit lane speed limiter.
Each following driver shall close up directly behind the driver in front and also engage their limiter.
In simulations such as GTR2 where there is a visible indication that the car ahead has engaged its limiter, each following driver should not close up on the driver ahead until they can visually confirm that it has switched on its limiter.>


Server replay time: 279s

SBG disengages his limiter and takes off long before he reaches start/finish line. There's a line here also, but he should be able to see all the starting positions marked on the track, which continues until the next line, the real start/finish line. This doesn't affect the race much, as the other drivers follow him, but it's very hard to know how prepared the other drivers were for this.

Sorry to announce that I was wrong, the finish line is the one in the middle of the starting grid, only the start line is the last line. And since you start on lap 2, it's the finish line we should use.

Penalty removed.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 456s

Simon has spun trying to avoid the car in front's braking. He's waiting for the field to pass before rejoin. As he thinks it's clear he then moves right back to the rracing line with practically no speed. Robert then has little chanse of hitting him as he's chased by two other car, and probably spots Simon a bit late. Robert is then passed by those two drivers, but is later let by by Simon, or Simon just slides of the track?

Simon now sees that he should get up to speed outside the racing line to avoid these situations. Also he claims to have not seen Robert coming. After looking at the replay I can see how he'd missed him, as this car is very dark and is almost behind Simon as Simon's getting back into the racing line.

  • Simon Gymerpenalty — Dangerous Rejoin — 2 places lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 1665s

SBG is clearly cutting the track to pass Paul968. Even though Paul is being lapped this is a deliberate act and sertanly gives him an advantage.

This is also repeated at these times: 413, 515, 722, 824, 1455, 1561, 2081, 3628, 3938, 4900s.

The other times it could be he was missing the exit, but still this happens too often. This is also all in the same curve.


Server replay time: 3177s

Robert Midderhoff(P13) catches popabawa(20) and Darren(P21), and passes Darren on the inside on the straight before this left-hander. He then dive bombs popabawa, knocking him flying out of the track. He was clearly sliding wide before contact, and was carrying too much speed entering.

Popabawa was being chased by Darren and was affraid he could pass if he let too much off, but still he could've made a bit more room here. However Robert would need the entire road to pass cleanly at this speed.


Server replay time: 4768s

Andy Eves is lapped by FreQ, but then misses his braking before the next turn, ending up in FreQ's door. FreQ ends up on the grass. FreQ rejoind and get passed Andy again half a lap later, still in the lead.

This is clearly a mistake by Andy, and he admits that, but FreQ doesn't really loose anything by this.

  • Andy Evespenalty — Rear Ending — 1 place lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR2
GTC
1:48.986
106.003mph
Jeffrey
Qualifying
Gillet Vertigo Streiff
-30.0kg
January 27, 2008, 08:58:51 PM +0000
U7UE
GTR2
GTC
1:49.894
105.127mph
Jeffrey
Race
Gillet Vertigo Streiff
-30.0kg
January 27, 2008, 08:58:51 PM +0000
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« Reply #120 on: January 28, 2008, 12:01:10 AM +0000 »

Great racing Pete.  I lost count how many times we went into corners side by side.  thumbup1

It was a shame about the coming together.  At the time I was trying to slingshot past you down the straight.  I was already hard on the gas when you went sideways...  I just had nowhere to go...  :'(  I was having so much fun at the time, I didn't mind waiting.  I just wanted the battle to continue for as long as possible.  Grin


Don't worry Dave..  No harm done...  Smiley
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« Reply #121 on: January 28, 2008, 07:37:56 AM +0000 »

ps. Haven't seen the replay yet but I fear I may have been the straw that broke the Psueueuedo camel's back - I was too busy looking at you running wide in Brooklands (or Priory - I can never remember which is which!) and ran wide myself, then I saw you were in the gravel and I didn't know whether I pushed or you simply fell. Undecided
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« Reply #122 on: January 28, 2008, 07:38:48 AM +0000 »

Seeing the turnout, I've adjusted the scoring system for both classes in Upper Endurance and GT2 in Lower Endurance to use the UKGPL scheme, 50 to 1 for 14 places. Otherwise only half the runners get points.
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« Reply #123 on: January 28, 2008, 07:44:59 AM +0000 »

It was good to see such a large grid. It was a shame that some drivers missed out as server full.
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« Reply #124 on: January 28, 2008, 08:50:59 AM +0000 »

Interesting race yesterday.  Smiley  Sad to say I was just starting to get a grip on how to use the curbs in the Becketts when quali ended. Was 0,5 sec down in the first part when I botched the lap, si my possibilities were for 5th or 6th place in quali, while my actual time was enough for 10th place.  Smiley

Was having some difficulties in the beginning of the race, gained and lost some places, then gained them back. Some close laps with Gazza, Pribeiro and Backo. Then the pace settled and I was following Dave closely until he went off. Very consistent, Dave, until that slip.  Smiley  Went to pits when I saw I was losing time on worn tyres. Increased the amount of fuel to take with me and it proved to be a tripple waste of time.  Sad  More time in the pits, heavier car and in the end I had too much fuel - for the amount I took additionaly.  no  If I trusted my initial calculations I'd be in front of SBG easily, as in the last few laps the time gap between us dropped from 25 to 5 seconds.  Undecided   But that would be exploiting another drivers miscalculation, not driving. So I guess 6th place in the end is about right considering laptimes and endurance consistency.  Smiley
I was lucky to get in yesterday. When I came to the lobby the game was full. Waited patiently and jumped when it read 31/32. Guess I got your spot, Mark.  Undecided  Lister is great to drive, but I'm sad to see it have 20 kg more than last season. Why, that sneaky Shark...  winkiss

Good job my fellow Legends, though there was some bad luck.  Sad  Why are you all over there driving the slow cars?  Tongue  Wanna bet GT1 class was much more dynamic on these straights?  Kiss   

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« Reply #125 on: January 28, 2008, 10:43:00 AM +0000 »

Picked up some front end damage but car still seemed to handle okay and made up places past Pablo and then Paul Richards as they went off.


Not guilty your honour  Grin 

Had a reasonably good qually it was tough to get a clear lap in but I got a bit lucky and was able to do an ok lap. My race setup felt quite good in practice so thought that I might be competitive. Not sure what happened at the end of the pace lap just as I went on the limiter it slowed up in front of me and I ran into Zacari, Simon then ran into me and I could see he had some front end damage so I guess I did too. Didn't seem to effect the car much though and Simons pace seemed ok as well. With the early battles apart from Freq we were all closed up and Brian had a moment at turn 1 and Zacari and myself were passed. Brian then got a good run down the hanger straight and was up the inside. I stayed wide and we were side by side through the fast right hander but he was able to chop across my nose into the sharp left. This allowed Simon passed as well with my loss of momentum but he spun at the top of the hill before bridge.

The race then settled down and I was pulling away from the cars behind but losing time to those infront. Toward the pit stops I closed up a bit on teamie SBG and jumped in the pits before we came up on some GTCs. Brian was also in the pit already. My stop went well and I left just behind Brian gaining time on him overall. After all the pit stops had rotated I had jumped SBG but was again slowly dropping back from the front 3. SBG intially started to close the gap to me a bit but dropped back in the final laps with his fuel shortage. Congrats to Freq and Jeff for the wins and to the other podium finishers. Big thanks to all the GTCs with the lapping, everyone was great last night.   

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« Reply #126 on: January 28, 2008, 10:58:26 AM +0000 »

As Jon says, quite a race! Had to settle for 3rd on the grid behind the vertifasts of JR and Jon, but in the race the RS had the legs on Jon's car with full fuel and managed to nick the place after a few laps. We both slipped up a couple of times but by the time the pitstops came round I only had a slender lead with Jeff a long way up the road. We pitted on the same lap and had almost identical stops, so the gap was unchanged. Things looked good until Zacari passed me out of T1 and then promptly spun on the curbs at the top of the hill. It looked like he would continue to spin to the right, so I steered to go behind him, but he then got some grip and steered the other way which brought the car right back in front of me and I had nowhere to go. Luckily the splitter survived, but the gap had come right down and the car felt a touch slower afterwards. Jon continued to reel me in until with only a few laps left a GT1 made a rather forceful lunge down the inside at maggots and in avoiding it left me out of position for beckets. Jon had a look at the inside of the next corner but I was commited to the line and we had some small contact, after which the steering started twitching down the straight. This was highly distracting with a pesky Vertigo buzzing around  my exhaust, so I was quite relieved to make it most of the way round the lap without messing up. It got me in the end though as I ran wide at priory and let him through. I almost managed to get the place back in the next couple of laps but it wasn't to be and Jon held on to finish 2nd. Great fun Jon  thumbup1

Congrats to Freq and JR for the wins and to the Kerbie lads in GT1 for some solid team points (and pole for SBG!). I was a bit surprised that there was such a gap back to the next GTC - normally 40kgs is about right to put me in the pack, but it didn't work out that way here in either qual or the race.
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« Reply #127 on: January 28, 2008, 12:26:03 PM +0000 »

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ps. Haven't seen the replay yet but I fear I may have been the straw that broke the Psueueuedo camel's back - I was too busy looking at you running wide in Brooklands (or Priory - I can never remember which is which!) and ran wide myself, then I saw you were in the gravel and I didn't know whether I pushed or you simply fell.

Don't worry Dave...I simply fell off...you didn't touch me.

By that time my enthusiasm had evaporated quicker than a vipers fuel load, so I drifted wide to stay out of your way and even got that totally wrong and beached it Roll Eyes
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« Reply #128 on: January 28, 2008, 01:48:54 PM +0000 »

I meant to put this in earlier Embarrassed
Amazing Pace Jeff Cool 1s a lap quicker, awesome stuff Shocked Better get my Hormonal Jr ass some more practice Wink   

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« Reply #129 on: January 28, 2008, 02:09:45 PM +0000 »

I meant to put this in earlier Embarrassed
Amazing Pace Jeff Cool 1s a lap quicker, awesome stuff Shocked Better get my Hormonal Jr ass some more practice Wink   

Edit: Is ass swearing?

Thanks Jon, ass far ass I can tell it's a bodypart  Roll Eyes


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« Reply #130 on: January 28, 2008, 02:10:02 PM +0000 »

Edit: Is ass swearing?

Depends whether it's bottoms or donkeys! Cheesy
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« Reply #131 on: January 28, 2008, 02:17:53 PM +0000 »

...or Auto Sim Sport Wink
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« Reply #132 on: January 28, 2008, 08:38:20 PM +0000 »

That was good fun. Big grats to SBG in qually, none of us were expecting it when you stuck in a 40.8!

Race started off great as for the first time ever, I was attacking on hangar straight (it felt soooo good  wub) which lead to the pass at stowe. After that I just got in a groove and slowly eeked out a gap. SBG did a great job of holding my teamies up (money's in an unmarked envelope under ur dustbin)  Wink

Main moments of the race were replay:
1028 - Psuedodo off and very close lapping - thru the middle!
1320 - Legends in convoy
2560 - Brian came out of the pit right in front of me, a bit like Jeff in the lower enduro. Felt a little mean overtaking him but made sense whilst his tyres were cold. I pitted after I held him up for a lap >_<

I'll spare the final one, suffice to say I had a scary moment 1.5 laps from home  scared

Great racing at the start and tense throughout. Great chat on TS again Grin and awesome to see the juniors kicking ass with a 1-2-3 Grin Grin!! The seniors in blue are past it now and we're taking over the force. Only Jeff remains in his (heavily cushioned - complete with stairlift and support handles) Blue 1984 Civic, nothing at all like the mighty Red Belgium bullet that Jon drives.  angel

Nice one JR, nice to know the old boy's still cut it occasionally  wheelchair scooter

Looking forwards to ogling your behind at Brno!  tt1

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« Reply #133 on: January 28, 2008, 09:27:34 PM +0000 »

I was only a bit faster than you once I came out of the pits. I did not know if I should have forced a pass or not. I was in the slipsream on the straight but decided against making the attempted pass. I'm glad you pitted and solved the problem.

I watched the replay back today and there was a few moments.

The start was not the best again.

I was also glad that I found I played no part in Simons exit. I thought it might have been due to my first corner off but it turned out to be something completely different. Just a slight misjudgement and lock up on his part causing his spin.

On the whole it was an exciting race.

I was never far away from the car in front or behind for that matter.

I was only ever a few corners away from a Vertigo and even if you guys were running seriously low wing, the speed difference was still frightening.
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« Reply #134 on: January 28, 2008, 11:48:13 PM +0000 »

Been checking Motec to compare my praccy laps with the race laps to see if I could spot any differences as to why the car felt so different....didn't need to compare though it was blatently obvious just from the race laps....every time I touched my brake pedal (not too often round this track fortunately) the graph started dancing up and down, it looked like I was cadence braking with a club foot! Shocked.....so I have now re-soldered the dodgy wire, cleaned the pots etc and it all seems to work again. Roll Eyes

Amazing how much you can forget after a short break.....I always checked my pedals etc before starting a race prior to going offline...never even crossed my mind last night. wheelchair

(please keep the comments about age and senillity to a minimum....I wont remember what you say anyway Huh)
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