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September 03, 2002, 09:00:00 PM +0100 - Kyalami (1961-67) - UKGPL Season 6 (2002) Division 4
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Tony Simpson
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) (#11001) F1 1967 1 1:20.480
113.797mph
1 24 1:20.400
113.910mph
Firestone  
Derek Jones
 WP Motorsports
Cooper T81b (Maserati) (#11005) F1 1967 4 +1.400
111.851mph
2 (+1) 33:44.010
108.597mph
24 ---
---
Firestone  
Neil Wood
 WP Motorsports
Cooper T81b (Maserati) (#11005) F1 1967 9 +2.270
110.676mph
3 33:52.980
108.118mph
24 ---
---
Firestone  
Mike Wrightson
 Afternet Sim Racing
Honda RA300 (#11006) F1 1967 7 +2.100
110.903mph
4 33:59.250
107.786mph
24 ---
---
Firestone  
Mark Pickford
 
Honda RA300 (#11006) F1 1967 5 +1.600
111.579mph
5 34:17.390
106.835mph
24 ---
---
Firestone  
john roberts
 J-Team Racing
BRM P115 (#11007) F1 1967 12 +4.730
107.480mph
6 34:55.730
104.881mph
24 ---
---
Goodyear  
Glen Field
 Team BRD
Ferrari 312 (1967) (#11003) F1 1967 2 +1.370
111.892mph
7 +1L 23 ---
---
Firestone  
bernie
 Afternet Sim Racing
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) (#11001) F1 1967 3 +1.400
111.851mph
8 +13L 11 ---
---
Firestone  
PaulV
 Epicurie Banana
BRM P115 (#11007) F1 1967 11 +3.100
109.576mph
9 +19L 5 ---
---
Goodyear  
Dave Allan
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 (#11006) F1 1967 6 +1.930
111.132mph
10 DNS ---
---
accident
Firestone  
Andrew Geldart
 Afternet Sim Racing
Cooper T81b (Maserati) (#11005) F1 1967 8 +2.140
110.850mph
Excluded ---
---
Firestone  
Richard Tysoe
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) (#11002) F1 1967 10 +2.310
110.622mph
---
---
Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

Derek is following Glen and Bernie Darwin down the straight into T1. Glen is on the inside and Bernie on the outside. Glen wins the corner from Bernie and Derek tries to follow him through, even though he is not yet past Bernie at the turn in point. There is no space for a third car in this equation and he rear ends Glen.

Derek went for a gap which wasn't there and took someone out. First lap, first corner, cold tyres, lots of cars about - leave loads of extra room and assume the cars in front are going to brake early.

In mitigation there was warp involved in the collision so I've reduced the penalty to only one lost place.


D Allan isn't going for a gap and has left plenty of space but simply misses his braking point and goes straight ahead. This incident actually has a greater net effect than Derek's but is due to a driving error rather than an error of judgement so is punished less severely.


Mark Pickford was recovering from the first corner incident and comes across John Roberts going round Barbeque. Mark is carrying more speed and manages to get past round the outside but in doing so he squeezed John in my opinion unfairly, earning a caution.


Lap 11: A. Geldart disqualified for use of the pitwall removal patch.

Important point here - KNOW THE RULES.

The Kyalami pitwall removal patch is not allowed for UKGPL races. It was discussed on the list pre season at some length and has been in the rules for two years now. The standard penalty for it is disqualification from the race. Luckily it's not a points scoring race.

It obviously wasn't a deliberate attempt to cheat as it was so blatant. If AG had made an attempt to follow the line of the pitwall entry I'd have turned a blind eye but by driving directly through the wall he saved at least a couple of seconds which could have allowed Neil Wood to get past.

September 17, 2002, 09:00:00 PM +0100 - Zandvoort (1948-72) - UKGPL Season 6 (2002) Division 4
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Mark Pickford
 
Honda RA300 (#11006) F1 1967 5 +1.210
107.632mph
1 27 ---
---
Firestone  
john roberts
 J-Team Racing
BRM P115 (#11007) F1 1967 9 +2.820
105.680mph
2 40:54.020
103.180mph
27 ---
---
Goodyear  
Dave Allan
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 (#11006) F1 1967 6 +1.540
107.226mph
3 40:54.500
103.160mph
27 ---
---
Firestone  
John Ellis
 J-Team Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) (#11004) F1 1967 3 +0.210
108.882mph
4 41:27.330
101.798mph
27 1:25.940
109.123mph
Goodyear  
Tony Simpson
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) (#11003) F1 1967 2 +0.090
109.034mph
5 41:44.360
101.106mph
27 ---
---
Firestone  
Neil Wood
 WP Motorsports
Ferrari 312 (1967) (#11003) F1 1967 1 1:25.920
109.148mph
6 +18L 9 ---
---
Disco
Firestone  
Richard Tysoe
 
Cooper T81b (Maserati) (#11005) F1 1967 11 +4.150
104.119mph
7 +20L 7 ---
---
Disco
Firestone  
Mike Wrightson
 Afternet Sim Racing
Honda RA300 (#11006) F1 1967 8 +1.920
106.762mph
8 +24L 3 ---
---
Disco
Firestone  
Andrew Geldart
 Afternet Sim Racing
Cooper T81b (Maserati) (#11005) F1 1967 7 +1.730
106.994mph
9 +27L 0 ---
---
Disco
Firestone  
Steve Campbell
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) (#11002) F1 1967 4 +1.060
107.818mph
11 (+2) 0 ---
---
Disco
Goodyear  
bernie
 Afternet Sim Racing
Cooper T81b (Maserati) (#11005) F1 1967 10 +3.420
104.970mph
DNS ---
---
Firestone  

Moderator's Report

Lap 1, Turn 1

As far as I can ascertain there was no warp involved. Steve has spoken to me since about the incident and I accept that he wasn't trying a dodgy move and was surprised that his car simply didn't slow down.

After looking at it at some length Steve was still accelerating at the point at which he should IMO have been braking. Tony correctly braked slightly early because it was the first lap. The combination of those two factors caused them to touch.

Once they had hit GPL overreacted to the severity of the touch but that's the nature of online racing and the reason we have to leave loads more room than we think we need.


Lap 3: M Wrightson Warps back on top of Tony Simpson. There was nothing either party could do about this. It was unfortunate as it was looking to be a good little dice and it screwed up both drivers.


Lap 27:

Tony Simpson veers to the right under braking and is hit by John Ellis.

Suspension damage on Tony's car caused the veering. In the end no harm was done, it didn't affect the result and Tony waited for John before restarting.

Racing incident.

October 01, 2002, 09:00:00 PM +0100 - Spa (GPL) - UKGPL Season 6 (2002) Division 4
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
John Ellis
 J-Team Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) (#11004) F1 1967 3 +0.700
157.706mph
1 9 ---
---
Goodyear  
Glen Field
 Team BRD
Ferrari 312 (1967) (#11003) F1 1967 8 +5.820
153.769mph
2 31:04.840
152.215mph
9 ---
---
Firestone  
Andy Nevill
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) (#11002) F1 1967 2 +0.500
157.864mph
3 31:10.560
151.749mph
9 ---
---
Goodyear  
Neil Wood
 WP Motorsports
Ferrari 312 (1967) (#11003) F1 1967 4 +2.710
156.137mph
4 (+1) 31:25.060
150.582mph
9 ---
---
Firestone  
Mark Pickford
 
Honda RA300 (#11006) F1 1967 5 +3.540
155.498mph
5 31:40.970
149.322mph
9 ---
---
Firestone  
PaulV
 Epicurie Banana
Cooper T81b (Maserati) (#11005) F1 1967 9 +6.150
153.522mph
6 31:41.670
149.267mph
9 ---
---
Firestone  
Dave Allan
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 (#11006) F1 1967 6 +3.850
155.260mph
7 31:48.820
148.708mph
9 ---
---
Firestone  
Richard Tysoe
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) (#11002) F1 1967 11 +7.910
152.218mph
8 +6L 3 ---
---
Goodyear  
Tony Simpson
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) (#11001) F1 1967 1 3:19.290
158.260mph
10 (+2) 3 3:20.090
157.627mph
Firestone  
Derek Jones
 WP Motorsports
Cooper T81b (Maserati) (#11005) F1 1967 7 +4.670
154.636mph
12 (+2) DNS ---
---
Firestone  
Mike Wrightson
 Afternet Sim Racing
Honda RA300 (#11006) F1 1967 10 +7.820
152.284mph
---
---
Firestone  

Moderator's Report

L1, Les Combes: D. Jones is overtaken by D. Allen on the run up to Les Combes. DA is well in front before the braking point but DJ rear ends him.

  • Derek Jones — Rear ending D. Allen — 2 places lost


L1, Blanchimont: A. Nevill vs T. Simpson.

TS had the inside line through the right kink but AN held his line round the outside to keep the advantage for the first left hander. TS eased off to tuck back in behind but in doing so put a wheel on the grass and went off without contact.

Racing incident.


L1, Blanchimont: G. Field, M. Pickford & T. Simpson.

GF takes a look down the inside of MP into the left hander. He's not far enough alongside and slots back behind before the corner.

MP goes round the corner and comes across TS rejoining, forcing him to brake hard. GF following does well to only lightly tap him and continues. MP has nowhere to go and hits TS at low speed. MP manages to continue as TS does after several other cars have passed.

All the drivers handled this very well in my opinion so I'm calling it a racing incident.


L2, Stavelot: T. Simpson & P. Villiers

PV is leading R. Tysoe and TS through Masta. RT gets a run on him on the exit and passes cleanly before Stavelot.

On the entry to Stavelot PV eases off very slightly to give RT room. TS ploughs into him from several car lengths behind.

TS should be expecting PV to be slower through stavelot as he's just been overtaken and is in a much slower car.

  • Tony Simpson — Contact with P. Villiers — 2 places lost


L4, Pitlane: R. Tysoe, T. Simpson & D. Allen:

RT stops for his pitstop. Unfortunately he doesn't turn into the pitlane itself but stays on the apron.

DA comes in just afterwards. The only way he can get past is to go back onto the track or squeeze past on the inside so he decided to stop behind.

It would have been OK if TS hadn't come in right behind. There isn't enough space left for him to stop and he touches the back of DA's Honda, spinning him round. GPL for reasons best known to itself decided that TS should be fired backwards at high speed. Most impressive unless you happen to be Tony Simpson.

This was ultimately caused by RT not properly pulling into the pits. It's essential to be aware that other cars may be coming in for their pitstops and to leave then enough room to do so.


L4, N. Wood: took an 18 second pitstop instead of the required 20 and was
ultimately 3rd by only 2.3 seconds.

  • Neil Wood — Improper pit stop — 1 place lost

October 15, 2002, 09:00:00 PM +0100 - Monaco (1929-71) - UKGPL Season 6 (2002) Division 4
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Mark Pickford
 
Honda RA300 (#11006) F1 1967 1 1:28.140
79.809mph
1 30 ---
---
Firestone  
Derek Jones
 WP Motorsports
Honda RA300 (#11006) F1 1967 2 +0.650
79.225mph
2 46:10.710
76.165mph
30 ---
---
Firestone  
Andy Straw
 Straw Oilseal Dames Racing
Cooper T81b (Maserati) (#11005) F1 1967 3 +0.780
79.109mph
3 46:17.220
75.987mph
30 ---
---
Firestone  
John Ellis
 J-Team Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) (#11004) F1 1967 5 +1.020
78.896mph
4 46:25.480
75.761mph
30 1:28.990
79.047mph
Goodyear  
Andy Nevill
 
Cooper T81b (Maserati) (#11005) F1 1967 7 +2.010
78.030mph
5 46:49.570
75.112mph
30 ---
---
Firestone  
Tony Simpson
 
Cooper T81b (Maserati) (#11005) F1 1967 4 +0.800
79.092mph
6 46:55.980
74.941mph
30 ---
---
Firestone  
Dave Allan
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 (#11006) F1 1967 9 +3.900
76.428mph
7 47:12.780
74.496mph
30 ---
---
Firestone  
john roberts
 J-Team Racing
BRM P115 (#11007) F1 1967 10 +3.900
76.428mph
8 +1L 29 ---
---
Goodyear  
Neil Wood
 WP Motorsports
Ferrari 312 (1967) (#11003) F1 1967 8 +2.130
77.926mph
9 29 ---
---
Firestone  
Sean Valen
 
BRM P115 (#11007) F1 1967 11 +10.010
71.670mph
10 +4L 26 ---
---
Goodyear  
PaulV
 Epicurie Banana
Cooper T81b (Maserati) (#11005) F1 1967 6 +1.990
78.047mph
11 +20L 10 ---
---
Firestone  
Andrew Geldart
 Afternet Sim Racing
Cooper T81b (Maserati) (#11005) F1 1967 13 12 +24L 6 ---
---
Firestone  

Moderator's Report

Start:

N. Wood Decides he's going to be Jarno Trulli for the day and overtakes six cars through the pit lane. Fortunately for the rest of the field there is an adequately large gap he can slot into before Ste. Devote and carnage is narrowly avoided.

Nine times out of ten this would have caused a massive pileup. The fact that he got away with it bears witness more to the presence of mind and self preservation instincts of the other drivers than to any great Senna-like talent on NW's part.

The fact that he threw it all away up at the second corner implies that he was approaching a long Monaco race in the wrong frame of mind.

  • Neil Wood — Overaggressive driving at the start


L1: N. Wood spins at Massenet. The car rolls back across the track, blocking it. Several other cars cannot avoid him and crash. One needs to reset.

It's easy to be wise after the event but if NW had slammed the brakes full on once the car had stopped he'd not have rolled back over the track. It's a good habit to get into but difficult in the heat of the moment.

Racing incident.


Lap 5, Gasworks Hairpin

A. Straw takes his surname a little too literally in his negotiation of the final hairpin. T. Simpson following goes as tight as he can on the exit to squeeze past but just touches AS's right front wheel. AS gets away behind TS without losing a further place and with no apparent damage.

TS did his best to avoid contact and was on full lock. His only other alternative would be to stop completely which would most likely have resulted in the following Honda hitting him.

Racing Incident.


Lap 6, Massenet

T. Simpson spins to the inside. Unfortunately he hits a lamppost and gets bounced backwards back onto the track. J. Ellis following doesn't have a lot of chance to avoid him.

Afterwards A. Nevill comes round the blind corner and catches TS.

Racing Incident.


Lap 18, Chicane

S. Valen goes through the chicane then inexplicably slows as if the engine has gone, though there's no other evidence of that.

Neil Wood is following through and has little chance of avoiding him with the result that both cars have to shift-R.

Racing Incident


Lap 21, Station Hairpin

T. Simpson is following J. Roberts into the hairpin. JR goes slightly wide but not enough to get past. TS doesn't slow enough and tags JR on the exit.

This incident illustrates well the sort of spirit that Division 4 is being fought in this season. TS waited for JR and both cars continue their little dice. That plus the fact that JR did go slightly wide which slowed him a little means I've mitigated the penalty to a Caution.

I do however feel that TS was following JR into the chicane slightly too closely to react if JR made a mistake.

Caution to T. Simpson.

October 29, 2002, 09:00:00 PM +0000 - Rouen (1955-70) - UKGPL Season 6 (2002) Division 4
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
John Ellis
 J-Team Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) (#11004) F1 1967 1 1:57.420
124.630mph
1 18 ---
---
Goodyear  
Dave Allan
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 (#11006) F1 1967 4 +1.480
123.078mph
2 37:02.830
118.503mph
18 ---
---
Firestone  
PaulV
 Epicurie Banana
Cooper T81b (Maserati) (#11005) F1 1967 7 +1.930
122.614mph
3 37:18.620
117.667mph
18 ---
---
Firestone  
Derek Jones
 WP Motorsports
Ferrari 312 (1967) (#11003) F1 1967 2 +0.690
123.901mph
4 37:20.500
117.568mph
18 1:57.770
124.259mph
Firestone  
Tony 'Cookymonster' Cook
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) (#11004) F1 1967 5 +1.540
123.016mph
5 37:32.050
116.965mph
18 ---
---
Goodyear  
Andy Straw
 Straw Oilseal Dames Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) (#11004) F1 1967 3 +0.840
123.744mph
6 37:53.040
115.885mph
18 ---
---
Goodyear  
Mark Pickford
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 (#11006) F1 1967 8 +2.050
122.491mph
7 (+2) 38:16.640
114.695mph
18 ---
---
Firestone  
Andy Nevill
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) (#11002) F1 1967 6 +1.740
122.810mph
8 38:41.260
113.478mph
18 ---
---
Goodyear  
bernie
 Afternet Sim Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) (#11003) F1 1967 12 +9.080
115.684mph
9 +16L 2 ---
---
Firestone  
Mike Wrightson
 Afternet Sim Racing
BRM P115 (#11007) F1 1967 11 +4.740
119.794mph
10 +17L 1 ---
---
Goodyear  
Sean Valen
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) (#11003) F1 1967 13 +9.090
115.675mph
11 (+2) 1 ---
---
Firestone  
David Wilkinson
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Cooper T81b (Maserati) (#11005) F1 1967 9 +2.630
121.899mph
12 +18L 0 ---
---
Firestone  
Gavin 'St John Featherstone-Haugh' Reid
 Team Legover
Ferrari 312 (1967) (#11003) F1 1967 10 +3.310
121.213mph
13 0 ---
---
Firestone  

Moderator's Report

MP gets a good start and decides to go round the outside of AN. Given that MP is driving a Honda there is no way there is enough track for him to get cleanly past an Eagle before the road narrows. He nearly makes it and is actually just in front when he passes the start of the hay bales. Unfortunately he does this on the grass so is forced to come off the power leaving AN nowhere to go. A pileup ensues involving much of the field behind.

Against the AI MP might have got away with this. Online it's unacceptable to take risks of this sort at the start with other people's cars.


P. Villiers slows slightly to avoid the carnage at the start. D. Wilkinson isn't paying enough attention and rear ends him.

DW comes off worst and didn't have a lot of time to react so I'm calling it a racing incident.


Wilks and Cookymonster arrived from Division 5 and were permitted to bring a few points with them.


G. Reid is accelerating down the right hand side of the track towards turn one while M. Wrightson is slightly behind, quicker and to the left. When MW is halfway alongside he drifts across to the left to take the racing line and takes them both off.

If you're going to move onto the racing line at the start you must be sure it is clear. GR could just as easily have taken turn one from the inside line. A good rule of thumb is to stay on line at the start unless you can see the guy behind in your mirror. Even then a quick look left does no harm at all.

Similarly if you try and outdrag someone on the outside you're making the assumption that they know you're there and ahve to be ready for them to move across.


A. Nevill is beached to the left of the track, facing the wrong way. He waits for B. Darwin to pass him then drives back onto the track to turn round. Unfortunately M. Wrightson suddenly appears due to the one behind rule. It's too late for AN to react and they touch, spinning MW onto the grass.

If a car passes you you have to be aware that a second car might be following closely, especially at the start.


Lap 2, Scierie

S. Valen goes off on the outside of Scierie. He comes back onto the track just as M. Wrightson is driving past, spinning him into M. Pickford who is on the inside of MW.

SV should have been a lot more careful rejoining. It was easy for him to drive a little way down the grass to get away from the exit of the corner giving following drivers a better chance of knowing what was happening.


The shift R limit in Division 4 is 2. S. Valen took 5. Most were followed by a stop-go. The third was at the hairpin on lap 6 so that's where his race finishes.

  • Sean Valen — Exceeding Shift-R limit — 0 places lost


Lap 8

There are two key aspects to a stop go. M. Pickford has evidently mastered the second one but the 'stop' part still eludes him. At no point of his pitstop does he drop below 5MPH. Driving into the pitwall due to excessive throttle on the way out doesn't help.

I've mitigated this to a warning because an attempt was made to stop, it just wasn't a very good attempt.


Lap 13, Turn 1:

D. Jones slipstreams A. Cook down the straight into turn one but is only partly alongside at the turn in point. In that situation the only way for both cars to get round is for them to keep to their respective sides.

DJ leaves his braking late to get more alongside but that means he's not entirely in control through the corner, drifts wide and hits AC.

I see this as a badly executed legitimate move rather than a bad move. For that reason plus the fact that DJ let AC back past afterwards I've mitigated the standard penalty to a warning.


Turn 2: D. Jones vs M. Pickford

After DJ let AC past, he drifted back out slightly. At this moment MP, having seen the opportunity to get past had dived for the outside and they bang wheels.

This is six of one and half a dozen of the other. Because of the one behind rule DJ did not know MP was there. He should have been aware though that a car might have been close behind AC and would appear as soon as he passed and should not have pulled across.

MP for his part should have known that he was invisible to DJ. You have to be careful when passing cars who've just been passed by someone else.

No harm was done so I'm calling it a racing incident.


Lap 14, Turn 1: D. Jones vs S. Valen

SV puts a wheel on the grass to the outside of the exit so has to get out of the throttle (in Brundlespeak). DJ is following closely and simply follows him off.

Racing incident.

November 12, 2002, 09:00:00 PM +0000 - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - UKGPL Season 6 (2002) Division 4
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Neil Wood
 WP Motorsports
Ferrari 312 (1967) (#11003) F1 1967 2 +0.490
118.569mph
1 24 ---
---
Firestone  
Andy Straw
 Straw Oilseal Dames Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) (#11004) F1 1967 1 1:28.380
119.226mph
2 37:01.310
113.848mph
24 ---
---
Goodyear  
Andy Nevill
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) (#11002) F1 1967 3 +0.720
118.263mph
3 37:27.000
112.547mph
24 1:28.790
118.676mph
Goodyear  
Tony 'Cookymonster' Cook
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) (#11004) F1 1967 5 +1.270
117.537mph
4 (+1) 37:29.240
112.435mph
24 ---
---
Goodyear  
Mark Pickford
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 (#11006) F1 1967 9 +2.140
116.407mph
5 37:34.050
112.195mph
24 ---
---
Firestone  
Derek Jones
 WP Motorsports
Honda RA300 (#11006) F1 1967 4 +1.070
117.800mph
6 (+6) 37:41.310
111.835mph
24 ---
---
Firestone  
David Wilkinson
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Cooper T81b (Maserati) (#11005) F1 1967 7 +1.610
117.093mph
7 37:50.210
111.396mph
24 ---
---
Firestone  
john roberts
 J-Team Racing
BRM P115 (#11007) F1 1967 10 +3.090
115.198mph
8 +22L 2 ---
---
Goodyear  
Mike Wrightson
 Afternet Sim Racing
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) (#11001) F1 1967 6 +1.420
117.341mph
9 DNS ---
---
Firestone  
PaulV
 Epicurie Banana
Cooper T81b (Maserati) (#11005) F1 1967 8 +1.940
116.665mph
10 (+6) +0L
111.671mph
24 ---
---
Firestone  

Moderator's Report

There were two cases of people taking a shift-R without a stop-go - Paul Villiers and Derek jones. Paul V did email me but had no excuse other than age. Derek did not email me with an excuse.

Can everybody please re-read the rules relating to shift-R's and stop-go's. If you're unsure of the rules, take a stop-go.

  • Derek Jones — Failing to Stop and Go after Shift-R — 6 places lost
  • PaulV — Failing to Stop and Go after Shift-R — 6 places lost


Lap 1, Start, Copse: A. Cook vs A. Nevill vs D. Jones

A classic case of three drivers going for one space.

AN had his customary bad start and DJ got a good run up the inside into Copse. The problem is that despite acres of room on the right he felt he needed to take a wide line and nearly hit AN in the process. This forced AN to swerve slightly to the left at the same time as AC was going round the outside.

The line round the outside of two other cars was never on, even though AN had left a gap. I don't think it was a serious overtaking move, more emergency avoidance. That's why it's one place rather than two.

However, AC should have been ready for a car braking early into turn one, especially when that car is being overtaken on the other side. Any argument that AN moved across into the gap is countered IMO by the fact that the one behind rule means that AN couldn't have known he was there until the very last second.

I can't emphasis enough that you can't race GPL online as if you were driving a real car. In real life you can stick your nose into a gap and expect the other driver to know you're there. Because of the one behind rule and the lack of field of view in online GPL you can't.

Rule One. Don't hit the car in front. If that means you have to go slower than you want to then do it. It's as simple as that.


Maggots: A. Straw vs N. Wood - Warning to A. Straw.

AS and NW go round Copse side by side. NW gets the better exit and is clearly ahead on the run into Maggots but AS moves across to take the racing line. Luckily NW is alive to the situation and brakes hard to avoid contact.

NW had enough of a lead to expect AS not to take the line back. AS's driving was overagressive and it's only good driving from NW which avoided the crash. I never thought I'd hear myself saying that. ;o)

  • Andy Straw — Nearly causing an avoidable incident


Lap 2, Hanger Straight: Caution to M. Pickford for bad rejoin.

MP spins at the left hander and ends up in the middle of the track facing the wrong way. Just as P. Villiers is passing him he spin turns, swinging the not insubstantial rear end of his Honda into PV's path. PV manages to swerve to avoid MP, as does the car following him.

Great care must be taken spin turning, especially early in the race. It was a well executed spin turn but it wasn't appropriate in the circumstances. There was space to turn round more carefully without swinging the arse like a hammer.


Lap 3, Woodcote: J. Roberts vs M. Pickford

MP is all over JR for a lot of the lap. Out of Abbey he gets a serious run on him and is slightly in front coming into Woodcote. JR must have known he was there but moved across with inevitable contact. JR was spun off but MP carried on.

It was MP's corner well before the turn in point. JR shouldn't have been surprised that there was a Honda on his inside and should have stayed wide round Woodcote to allow for that fact.

JR came off worst from it so I don't think a penalty is appropriate.


Lap 24, One place *ADJUSTMENT* to A. Straw

You have to feel a little sorry for Andy Straw here. He's leading into the last lap with a comfortable lead. Three corners to go and he loses concentration and is forced to Shift-R.

Unfortunately there's the little issue of the stop-go to deal with. Andy did the stop-go at the end of the lap but of course he passed the line as he entered the pits, winning the race.

The fairest way of dealing with this is to estimate how much time Andy would have taken to get out of the pits and add that to his race time. That moves him down to second and promotes Neil Wood to first place.

There wasn't a lot else Andy could do in the circumstances so this is not a penalty.

November 26, 2002, 09:00:00 PM +0000 - N├╝rburgring (Nordschleife) - UKGPL Season 6 (2002) Division 4
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Derek Jones
 WP Motorsports
Ferrari 312 (1967) (#11003) F1 1967 1 8:14.620
103.272mph
1 5 8:20.170
102.126mph
Firestone  
Andy Nevill
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) (#11003) F1 1967 3 +8.880
101.451mph
2 43:23.240
98.109mph
5 ---
---
Firestone  
Neil Wood
 WP Motorsports
Ferrari 312 (1967) (#11003) F1 1967 5 +15.910
100.054mph
3 44:01.380
96.693mph
5 ---
---
Firestone  
John Ellis
 J-Team Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) (#11004) F1 1967 2 +1.950
102.866mph
4 44:03.750
96.606mph
5 ---
---
Goodyear  
PaulV
 Epicurie Banana
Cooper T81b (Maserati) (#11005) F1 1967 6 +18.730
99.504mph
5 44:23.320
95.896mph
5 ---
---
Firestone  
David Wilkinson
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Cooper T81b (Maserati) (#11005) F1 1967 8 +22.210
98.834mph
6 44:24.430
95.856mph
5 ---
---
Firestone  
Tony 'Cookymonster' Cook
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) (#11004) F1 1967 9 +23.790
98.533mph
7 44:59.130
94.624mph
5 ---
---
Goodyear  
Mark Pickford
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 (#11006) F1 1967 12 8 +1L 4 ---
---
Firestone  
Andrew Geldart
 Afternet Sim Racing
Cooper T81b (Maserati) (#11005) F1 1967 7 +20.640
99.135mph
9 +2L 3 ---
---
Firestone  
Andy Straw
 Straw Oilseal Dames Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) (#11004) F1 1967 4 +12.140
100.798mph
10 +4L 1 ---
---
Goodyear  
Mike Wrightson
 Afternet Sim Racing
BRM P115 (#11007) F1 1967 10 +29.480
97.463mph
DNS ---
---
Goodyear  
john roberts
 J-Team Racing
BRM P115 (#11007) F1 1967 11 +41.600
95.260mph
---
---
Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

I have been through the whole race replay and did not see a single incident I considered worthy of even a second look. I did see a great deal of good, close racing though, even with the usual smaller Nurburgring field. Dave Wilkinson and Andrew Cook did everything short of sharing bodily fluids for much of the race and Mark Pickford spent most of his time surgically attached to the rear of one car or another without hitting any of them.

Congratulations to Derek Jones on a very good drive. He won going away. A last lap Shift-R forced a stop-go just before the line and that reduced his advantage to a mere 42 seconds.

Andy Nevill had a similar advantage in second but after that it got closer with Neil Wood just scraping third from Dave Wilkinson.

December 10, 2002, 09:00:00 PM +0000 - Mosport - UKGPL Season 6 (2002) Division 4
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Derek Jones
 WP Motorsports
Ferrari 312 (1967) (#11003) F1 1967 2 +0.480
107.146mph
1 27 1:22.420
107.406mph
Firestone  
Neil Wood
 WP Motorsports
Ferrari 312 (1967) (#11003) F1 1967 4 +1.280
106.118mph
2 38:41.240
102.969mph
27 ---
---
Firestone  
David Wilkinson
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Cooper T81b (Maserati) (#11005) F1 1967 6 +1.780
105.486mph
3 38:46.590
102.732mph
27 ---
---
Firestone  
Dave Allan
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 (#11006) F1 1967 8 +2.330
104.799mph
4 38:47.910
102.674mph
27 ---
---
Firestone  
Mark Pickford
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 (#11006) F1 1967 5 +1.430
105.928mph
5 38:53.280
102.437mph
27 ---
---
Firestone  
Andy Nevill
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) (#11002) F1 1967 3 +0.550
107.055mph
6 39:12.740
101.590mph
27 ---
---
Goodyear  
PaulV
 Epicurie Banana
Cooper T81b (Maserati) (#11005) F1 1967 9 +2.520
104.564mph
7 +1L 26 ---
---
Firestone  
Tony 'Cookymonster' Cook
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) (#11004) F1 1967 7 +2.110
105.073mph
8 +14L 13 ---
---
Goodyear  
John Ellis
 J-Team Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) (#11004) F1 1967 1 1:22.140
107.772mph
9 +22L 5 ---
---
Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

Lap 7 - Andretti Straight, D. Allen vs A. Nevill vs P. Villiers

This one's a game of 'Fortunately, Unfortunately'. I always liked that as a kid. It's nice to know that people have time for parlour games during a race. ;o)

AN makes a move on DA over the hump but he's not far enough alongside to make it stick without some serious cooperation from DA.

Fortunately he gets it - DA stays left and positions himself to tuck in behind on the exit.

Unfortunately AN gets out of shape over the hump and struggles to control the car into the following right hander. Despite a valiant attempt he ends up in the sand.

Fortunately DA manages to stay wide enough to miss him.

Unfortunately in doing so he puts a wheel on the grass and follows AN onto the beach.

Fortunately they both keep it straight and rejoin, losing only one place.

Unfortunately DA rejoins too close to the exit of the corner and PV is approaching at a rate of knots.

Fortunately he was awake and just manages to slow enough not to hit him.

Unfortunately AN then rejoins just in front of DA, forcing him to brake and PV hasn't yet had a chance to build a gap and touches his gearbox.

Fortunately they all sort themselves out without losing further places. PV takes his pitstop and AN unnecessarily takes a stop-go.

It all goes back to AN's attempted move on DA over the hump. It's a bit like when you're approaching the lights and they change to amber. Should I stop or not? In this case AN kept his foot in a fraction longer than he should have to make the move stick. This meant he carried too much speed into the corner and he simply ran out of road.

After that it really was a game of consequences and it's impossible to judge any of the drivers too harshly.

For the original bad move AN gets a warning.

January 07, 2003, 09:00:00 PM +0000 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - UKGPL Season 6 (2002) Division 4
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Andy Nevill
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) (#11001) F1 1967 2 +0.380
145.129mph
1 21 ---
---
Firestone  
Tony Simpson
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) (#11001) F1 1967 1 1:28.250
145.754mph
2 32:14.200
139.654mph
21 1:28.820
144.819mph
Firestone  
Derek Jones
 WP Motorsports
Ferrari 312 (1967) (#11003) F1 1967 4 +1.080
143.992mph
3 32:23.010
139.021mph
21 ---
---
Firestone  
David Wilkinson
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Cooper T81b (Maserati) (#11005) F1 1967 12 +2.420
141.864mph
4 32:26.620
138.763mph
21 ---
---
Firestone  
Joe Bardsley
 J-Team Racing
BRM P115 (#11007) F1 1967 10 +1.710
142.984mph
5 (+2) 32:31.870
138.390mph
21 ---
---
Goodyear  
John Ellis
 J-Team Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) (#11004) F1 1967 5 +1.300
143.638mph
6 32:37.700
137.978mph
21 ---
---
Goodyear  
Mike Wrightson
 Afternet Sim Racing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) (#11002) F1 1967 3 +0.390
145.113mph
7 32:47.900
137.262mph
21 ---
---
Goodyear  
PaulV
 Epicurie Banana
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) (#11001) F1 1967 8 +1.630
143.111mph
8 32:51.870
136.986mph
21 ---
---
Firestone  
Tony 'Cookymonster' Cook
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) (#11004) F1 1967 7 +1.630
143.111mph
9 32:57.540
136.593mph
21 ---
---
Goodyear  
Mark Pickford
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 (#11006) F1 1967 11 +1.790
142.857mph
10 33:40.430
133.694mph
21 ---
---
Firestone  
Daren Willand
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) (#11003) F1 1967 13 +5.590
137.072mph
11 +17L 4 ---
---
Firestone  
Dave Allan
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 (#11006) F1 1967 6 +1.300
143.638mph
12 (+2) 4 ---
---
Firestone  
Neil Wood
 WP Motorsports
Ferrari 312 (1967) (#11003) F1 1967 9 +1.670
143.047mph
DNS ---
---
Firestone  

Moderator's Report

Start - S/F Straight, D. Allen vs D. Jones

This is exactly the same situation as Mark Pickford's penalty at Rouen. DA gets a better start than DJ and dives out to the right to blast past. The Honda doesn't have the acceleration to get past the Ferrari and he's not going to get past before the road narrows.

DA runs alongside but way too close and on a closing trajectory.

If you stick your car in a position where you're going to run out of road it's your responsibility not to impede the other car. If that means you have to come out of the throttle then so be it.

What makes it worse is that with John Ellis on the inside they were three wide. Sit back and think about the implications of GPL's one behind limitation in that situation. Who can see what cars?

The rest of the field behind don't really have a chance.

  • Dave Allan — Contact with D. Jones — 2 places lost


Lap 8 - Parabolica, J. Bardsley vs P. Villiers

Classic Paraolica rear ender. the only mitigating factor is that PV braked slightly early. JB was however some way back and had plenty of time to react so there's no real excuse.

  • Joe Bardsley — Rear ending P. Villiers — 2 places lost


Lap 20 - Parabolica, M. Wrightson vs J. Ellis

JE follows MW down the straight. He has a look down the inside but doesn't go for the gap. Under braking he gets a tank slapper on, touches the inside rass and spins into MW.

To me this is a driving error. JE wasn't too close he just got his braking wrong.

January 21, 2003, 09:00:00 PM +0000 - Snetterton - UKGPL Season 6 (2002) Division 4
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
John Ellis
 J-Team Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) (#11004) F1 1967 4 +0.730
112.085mph
1 24 ---
---
Goodyear  
Derek Jones
 WP Motorsports
Ferrari 312 (1967) (#11003) F1 1967 1 1:25.010
113.047mph
2 35:38.730
107.841mph
24 1:25.110
112.914mph
Firestone  
Tony Simpson
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) (#11001) F1 1967 3 +0.350
112.584mph
3 35:40.390
107.758mph
24 ---
---
Firestone  
Andy Nevill
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) (#11002) F1 1967 2 +0.250
112.716mph
4 36:03.790
106.592mph
24 ---
---
Goodyear  
David Wilkinson
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Cooper T81b (Maserati) (#11005) F1 1967 6 +1.500
111.087mph
5 (+2) 36:11.780
106.200mph
24 ---
---
Firestone  
PaulV
 Epicurie Banana
Cooper T81b (Maserati) (#11005) F1 1967 8 +2.210
110.183mph
6 36:54.090
104.171mph
24 ---
---
Firestone  
Mark Pickford
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 (#11006) F1 1967 7 +2.140
110.271mph
7 +1L 23 ---
---
Firestone  
Neil Wood
 WP Motorsports
Ferrari 312 (1967) (#11003) F1 1967 5 +1.190
111.487mph
8 23 ---
---
Firestone  
Dave Allan
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 (#11006) F1 1967 9 +2.500
109.818mph
9 +18L 6 ---
---
Firestone  

Moderator's Report

Lap 1, Turn 2: D. Wilkinson vs N. Wood

The start's a model of restraint and there are no incidents through the first corner. everything looked fine into T2 as well until DW turned in and hit NW. The rest of the field had no time to react and ploughed into the incident.

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Historic race data.

Two drivers were moved up from D5 mid-season and were allowed to bring some points with them. Specifically, David Wilkinson was given 51 points and Tony 'Cookiemonster' Cook was given 49 points.
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