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  • L5 Porto: April 03, 2008
April 03, 2008, 08:55:16 PM +0100 - Porto - UKGTL Season 5 Season 5 GT Classics Cup
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Austin-Healey 3000 (#200105) GTC-65 1 2:16.978
77.947mph
1 40:16.386
75.116mph
17 2:19.272
76.663mph
Dunlop  
Mike Wrightson
 rF Gentlemens Racing Club
Renault Alpine A110 (#580) GTC-65 4 +2.335
76.641mph
2 +15.270
74.644mph
17 2:20.100
76.210mph
Dunlop  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Austin-Healey 3000 (#473) GTC-65 5 +2.386
76.613mph
3 +23.978
74.378mph
17 2:21.306
75.560mph
Dunlop  
pribeiro
 Ghostspeed
Renault Alpine A110 (#501) GTC-65 12 +7.180
74.065mph
4 +39.809
73.899mph
17 2:21.946
75.219mph
Dunlop  
TinMan
 Team Oldie Racing
Renault Alpine A110 (#580) GTC-65 10 +6.516
74.408mph
5 +1:20.392
72.698mph
17 2:24.405
73.938mph
Dunlop  
Ade
 Kerb Crawlers
Austin-Healey 3000 (#450) GTC-65 7 +4.276
75.588mph
6 +1:20.786
72.686mph
17 2:22.719
74.812mph
Dunlop  
Blunder
 Team Oldie Racing
Ferrari 250GT SWB (#68) GTC-65 9 +6.300
74.520mph
7 +1:44.095
72.014mph
17 2:25.032
73.619mph
Dunlop  
will16v
 Prodigy Racing
Renault Alpine A110 (#118125) GTC-65 13 +7.457
73.923mph
8 +1:44.209
72.011mph
17 2:22.664
74.840mph
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Prodigy Racing
Renault Alpine A110 (#179412) GTC-65 18 +9.278
73.002mph
9 +1L
70.506mph
16 2:26.427
72.917mph
Dunlop  
Phil Gilliland
 Team Pseudo Racing
Austin-Healey 3000 (#453) GTC-65 16 +7.997
73.647mph
10 +23.597
69.826mph
16 2:27.631
72.322mph
Dunlop  
Oilseal
 Team Oldie Racing
Renault Alpine A110 (#580) GTC-65 20 +11.119
72.095mph
11 +51.249
69.046mph
16 2:29.151
71.585mph
Dunlop  
Alex vV
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Ferrari 250GT SWB (#68) GTC-65 22 +11.873
71.730mph
12 +1:25.787
68.095mph
16 2:30.729
70.836mph
Dunlop  
LigelC
 
Renault Alpine A110 (#501) GTC-65 24 +14.667
70.408mph
13 +2:10.192
66.911mph
16 2:33.490
69.562mph
Dunlop  
baracus250gt
 Ghostspeed
Ferrari 250GT SWB (#60) GTC-65 6 +3.759
75.865mph
14 (+1) +2L
64.891mph
15 2:18.956
76.838mph
Dunlop  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing
Austin-Healey 3000 (#473) GTC-65 14 +7.487
73.907mph
15 +31.064
64.085mph
15 2:26.576
72.843mph
Dunlop  
stnasky
 
Ferrari 250GT SWB (#612) GTC-65 16 +11L 6 2:24.063
74.114mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Ferrari 250GT SWB (#68) GTC-65 17 +8.782
73.251mph
17 +12L 5 2:28.673
71.816mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Tibernius
 Prodigy Racing
Renault Alpine A110 (#179412) GTC-65 26 +24.991
65.920mph
18 5 2:43.063
65.478mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Mr.BMW
 Prodigy Racing
Renault Alpine A110 (#179412) GTC-65 15 +7.578
73.861mph
19 +13L 4 2:29.610
71.366mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Steve Holmes
 Legends Racing
Ferrari 250GT SWB (#60) GTC-65 8 +4.788
75.315mph
20 (+2) +14L 3 2:25.735
73.263mph
unknown
Dunlop  
psuedo
 Team Pseudo Racing
Renault Alpine A110 (#580) GTC-65 19 +10.714
72.293mph
21 +15L 2 3:00.744
59.073mph
suspension
Dunlop  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Renault Alpine A110 (#580) GTC-65 11 +7.116
74.098mph
22 +16L 1 3:04.583
57.844mph
suspension
Dunlop  
[POOdle]andyq
 
Ferrari 250GT SWB (#68) GTC-65 23 +13.766
70.829mph
23 1 3:00.468
59.163mph
suspension
Dunlop  
ASSASSINO
 Ghostspeed
Austin-Healey 3000 (#471) GTC-65 3 +1.913
76.874mph
Excluded +12L 5 2:19.799
76.374mph
engine
Dunlop  
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Austin-Healey 3000 (#202914) GTC-65 2 +1.401
77.158mph
+17L 0 ---
---
suspension
Dunlop  
[POOdle]Keith
 
Ferrari 250GT SWB (#612) GTC-65 21 +11.164
72.073mph
0 ---
---
unknown
Dunlop  
Sandor M
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Renault Alpine A110 (#580) GTC-65 25 +16.298
69.659mph
0 ---
---
suspension
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 51s

Baracus brakes far later than those around him into T1 and, despite his best efforts to avoid contact, hits the back of Ruskus very hard. It was only through a mixture of luck and Ruskus's driving skills that a very serious incident was avoided. Credit goes to Baracus for admitting his mistake and apologising accordingly.


Server replay time: 53s

Steve Holmes gets a very good start, overtakes a few but brakes much later than those around him, and probably too late, into first turn. Unfortunately, he clatters into Dan Minton, effectively ending his race and causes chaos for those behind. Much to his credit, Steve has owned up to his mistake and apologises for it.



Both these first turn incidents share the same underlying problem which needs to be addressed. Both Steve and Baracus appear to be trying to gain places whilst those around them are proceeding with great caution, hence even two of our best and fairest drivers were caught out by the careful and slightly early braking into first turn. We want to continue to see the same common sense and cautious approach to the first corner and, now this issue has been raised, we do not want to see the same mistakes that featured here again. Yes, race and take places into first turn but equally, be very wary.

  • Steve Holmespenalty — Penalty - Rear end shunt — 2 places lost


Server replay time: 1123s

Ade spins whilst trying to hold off PR into first tight chicane. To be fair he ends up in an awfull spot right on the racing line and you can almost sense him mulling over his options. Unfortunately, he gets it a little wrong and reverses into Tin Man whilst being unsighted. Considering no damage was done, the tight spot Ade was in and how TinMan is willing to let it pass then no penalty is necessary.

Racing incident.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 2000s

After the unfortunate first turn incident Dan expresses his displeasure via the in-game chat. Whatever the provacation, there can be no excuse for this behaviour. Considering the language used, perhaps this may have been passed over without the similar later incident and Dan has publicly apologised for his mistake so this will only result in a warning.

Warning-abusive language.


Server replay time: 2000s

After another incident, in which no blame has been apportioned, Assassino expresses his displeasure via the in-game chat. But he uses much more colourful language and is far more personnal in his abuse than the earlier incident. Again, there is no provocation that can justify this reaction. As this is a more serious offence than earlier incident, reluctantly we have no choice but to exclude Assassino from this event.


These two incidents have shocked and suprised us all and will not be tolerated again. This time, we have been inclined to be somewhat lenient in our punishments but if anyone errs in this manner again the penalty will be far more draconian. No one wants to see it and we will not accept it again.

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« Reply #90 on: April 04, 2008, 03:37:47 PM +0100 »

You know, I don't have a problem with how narrow the track is. But those kerbs...Even a low speed contact was flipping my car (2-3 times during the race). I can't even imagine what would have happened if I hit them at high speed. Very unrealistic.
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« Reply #91 on: April 04, 2008, 03:46:06 PM +0100 »

You know, I don't have a problem with how narrow the track is. But those kerbs...Even a low speed contact was flipping my car (2-3 times during the race). I can't even imagine what would have happened if I hit them at high speed. Very unrealistic.

Same here, track was great, but those curbs that can finish you off any second were bad. I saw Mr. Bmw flip hard in qually and in race right before me Cheesy. Had to stop and see where his bouncing car went Grin.
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« Reply #92 on: April 04, 2008, 03:48:24 PM +0100 »

I don't have a problem with the kerbs. Surley that's what practise is for, to learn the parts/elements of the circuit to be wary of?
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« Reply #93 on: April 04, 2008, 04:15:20 PM +0100 »

Diabolical first corner ..got smashed to pieces. Angry
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« Reply #94 on: April 04, 2008, 04:42:06 PM +0100 »

Oddly, I think kerb physics worked excellently on inside of slower corners. There were a couple of times I made Mike wait behind me as I went on two wheels Grin Yeehaaa! I agree they didn't work quite as well on the outside of fast corners. Maybe we all knew to avoid them but they certainly didn't feel realistic, although exactly what does happen when you hit them at 100mph+? Luckily I've never found out.
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« Reply #95 on: April 04, 2008, 07:15:35 PM +0100 »

I really loved to race in Oporto, i use to watch classic races, there once a year.

Funny to pass in the places i use to watch, the track has an amazing detail of the buildings, shame theres no water and sand on the beach.

I was really pushing to get in ruskus rear, i was very fast in the last straight, ( you should see the wtcc cars goig down there ), shame i hit a car that was crashed into the wall and was moving bacwards.

When i was trying to do the chicane at full speed i crashed, car out.

Amazing track and race, thanks.
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« Reply #96 on: April 04, 2008, 09:44:53 PM +0100 »

I am very sorry guys, having watched the replay it was me that caused all the carnage at T1. I thought that I had gotten a nudge from behind, but that was not the case. I simply locked the brakes & slid straight on. To everyone who got involved I am very sorry & I will endevour to be much more careful at T1 in future.

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« Reply #97 on: April 05, 2008, 01:46:31 AM +0100 »

You know, I don't have a problem with how narrow the track is. But those kerbs...Even a low speed contact was flipping my car (2-3 times during the race). I can't even imagine what would have happened if I hit them at high speed. Very unrealistic.

Same here, track was great, but those curbs that can finish you off any second were bad. I saw Mr. Bmw flip hard in qually and in race right before me Cheesy. Had to stop and see where his bouncing car went Grin.

I flew off track and visited some ladies watching the race.
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« Reply #98 on: April 05, 2008, 09:45:21 AM +0100 »

Sorry for the little rant after the start was abit annoyed.
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