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  • L5 Mexico City: March 27, 2008
March 27, 2008, 08:56:31 PM +0000 - Mexico City (1986-2001) - UKGTL Season 5 Season 5 GT Classics Cup
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
BMW CSL Schnitzer (#870) GTC-TC-76 2 +0.107
92.359mph
1 39:55.200
90.130mph
22 1:47.307
91.445mph
Dunlop  
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Ford Escort RS (#202951) GTC-TC-76 3 +0.910
91.666mph
2 +18.556
89.437mph
22 1:47.124
91.602mph
Avon  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 RSR 2.8 (#852) GTC-TC-76 8 +1.797
90.912mph
3 +28.785
89.060mph
22 1:48.359
90.558mph
Goodyear  
baracus250gt
 Ghostspeed
BMW CSL Schnitzer (#870) GTC-TC-76 6 +1.549
91.122mph
4 +39.124
88.682mph
22 1:48.375
90.544mph
Dunlop  
Bernie Lomax
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 RSR 2.8 (#200873) GTC-TC-76 5 +1.281
91.349mph
5 +45.135
88.463mph
22 1:48.236
90.660mph
Goodyear  
pribeiro
 Ghostspeed
BMW CSL Schnitzer (#870) GTC-TC-76 1 1:46.139
92.452mph
6 +47.946
88.361mph
22 1:47.749
91.070mph
Dunlop  
Phil Gilliland
 Team Pseudo Racing
Porsche 911 RSR 3.0 (#81) GTC-TC-76 9 +2.084
90.671mph
7 +1:01.305
87.881mph
22 1:48.997
90.027mph
Goodyear  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 RSR 2.8 (#852) GTC-TC-76 4 +1.084
91.517mph
8 +1:11.800
87.507mph
22 1:48.262
90.639mph
Goodyear  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 RSR 2.8 (#200873) GTC-TC-76 7 +1.645
91.041mph
9 +1:13.248
87.456mph
22 1:47.076
91.643mph
Goodyear  
Blunder
 Team Oldie Racing
Ford Escort RS (#201474) GTC-TC-76 17 +4.148
88.974mph
10 +1:22.251
87.138mph
22 1:50.949
88.444mph
Avon  
Steve Holmes
 Legends Racing
Ford Escort RS (#200871) GTC-TC-76 13 +3.162
89.777mph
11 +1:23.081
87.109mph
22 1:50.070
89.150mph
Avon  
TinMan
 Team Oldie Racing
Porsche 911 RSR 2.8 (#852) GTC-TC-76 14 +3.300
89.664mph
12 +1:26.202
86.999mph
22 1:49.620
89.516mph
Goodyear  
will16v
 Prodigy Racing
Porsche 911 RSR 3.0 (#205711) GTC-TC-76 13 +1L
85.434mph
21 1:49.783
89.383mph
Goodyear  
[POOdle]Keith
 
Ford GT40 (#840) GTC-65 19 +5.289
88.063mph
14 +0.084
85.431mph
21 1:52.675
87.089mph
Dunlop  
Ade
 Kerb Crawlers
Ford Escort RS (#74) GTC-TC-76 11 +2.414
90.396mph
15 +0.566
85.414mph
21 1:49.981
89.222mph
Avon  
Oilseal
 Team Oldie Racing
Ford Escort RS (#201474) GTC-TC-76 20 +6.631
87.015mph
16 +9.792
85.089mph
21 1:52.516
87.212mph
Avon  
Alex vV
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
BMW CSL Schnitzer (#870) GTC-TC-76 21 +8.097
85.899mph
17 +1:09.754
83.033mph
21 1:54.481
85.715mph
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Prodigy Racing
BMW CSL Schnitzer (#205795) GTC-TC-76 16 +4.027
89.072mph
18 +1:38.167
82.093mph
21 1:53.111
86.753mph
Dunlop  
mr_oily
 Prodigy Racing
Porsche 911 RSR 3.0 (#205711) GTC-TC-76 12 +2.487
90.335mph
19 +6L 16 1:49.474
89.635mph
DQ
Goodyear  
stnasky
 
Ford Escort RS (#35) GTC-TC-76 10 +2.123
90.639mph
20 +7L 15 1:48.948
90.068mph
unknown
Avon  
psuedo
 Team Pseudo Racing
BMW CSL Alpina (#87) GTC-TC-76 18 +5.108
88.207mph
21 (+2) +8L 14 1:51.229
88.221mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Sandor M
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Porsche 911 RSR 3.0 (#853) GTC-TC-76 15 +3.924
89.156mph
22 (+2) +21L 1 2:11.048
74.879mph
suspension
Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 185s

Sandor is following a BMW closely at the main straight. This blocks his view and that probably caused him to miss his braking point.
He then overshoots and collects Ade hard. Ade then slides into the wall and loses a lot of places.
It didn't look like Sandor was trying to overtake Ade, but still it was avoidable and because it was early in the race, the damage to Ade was severe.


Server replay time: 232s

Wiltshire Tony rejoins the track in the twisty bits. He does that off the racing line, but soon comes onto the racing line again. His speed is still slow 'cause of the off, this causes Alex to slightly nudge him, which cause Tony to spin.
This incident was a avoidable for both drivers. Tony should have rejoined in a safer way, and Alex might have been able to avoid the contact. Because of that, there will be no penalties for this.

  • Alex vV (Alex v Veldhoven)warning — Rear end contact
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded
  • Wiltshire Tonywarning — Dangerous rejoin
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 620s

Psuedo rearends Alex, spinning him around. The following cars can't avoid the spinning cars, and drive into them.
This wasn't reported by Alex, which would have cancelled the penalty, but it was reported by the following drivers who were caught out.
So eventhough the first victim didn't report it, it still gets a penalty because the other victims did.

  • psuedopenalty — Rear end shunt — 2 places lost

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GT Legends
GTC-65
1:51.428
88.063mph
[POOdle]Keith
Qualifying
Ford GT40March 27, 2008, 08:56:31 PM +0000
L5S
GT Legends
GTC-65
1:52.675
87.089mph
[POOdle]Keith
Race
Ford GT40March 27, 2008, 08:56:31 PM +0000
L5S
GT Legends
GTC-TC-76
1:46.139
92.452mph
pribeiro
Qualifying
BMW CSL SchnitzerMarch 27, 2008, 08:56:31 PM +0000
L5S
GT Legends
GTC-TC-76
1:47.076
91.643mph
Mark J
Race
Porsche 911 RSR 2.8March 27, 2008, 08:56:31 PM +0000
L5S
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« Reply #60 on: March 27, 2008, 10:17:05 PM +0000 »

After much stressing to just get on server, I am delighted that I persevered.

Nice gentlemanly battle with Phil (who was in a standard skin I think) to kick off proceedings. Sneaked past him and then began to think that chaps in front, by some 8 seconds, were well outta reach but amazingly I think I raced you all, apart from JR of course  Wink, at some point. Great fun with the struggling PR, wets you say Smiley, which allowed the flying Dan back up to us and he duly sped through as PR and I went side by side for 8 corners laugh Fun and fair from you all, ace in fact.

Shame to hear about some rough and tumble, something that always seems to happen in the 76'ers :'( Glad to see track has won over the majority and gotta thank Simon for recommending it. No need for JR to get out the stocks now Wink

Congrats to JR, Dan who did great considering his tangle and Keith for bringing home the GT40  Smiley Thx to backmarkers who made passing very easy, ta.
 
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« Reply #61 on: March 27, 2008, 10:21:01 PM +0000 »

No need for JR to get out the stocks now Wink

No idea what that means Smiley.
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« Reply #62 on: March 27, 2008, 10:24:39 PM +0000 »

have a look here Ruskus : )   http://www.secretshropshire.org.uk/Content/Learn/Crime/Punishment.asp
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« Reply #63 on: March 27, 2008, 10:26:24 PM +0000 »

Replay and results available above
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« Reply #64 on: March 27, 2008, 10:28:03 PM +0000 »


Thanks Smiley.

Well it was mayhem out there, something that could have been expected with a track that is corner, corner, corner, corner Tongue.

I see there is a free stocks next to me if you want SBG  winkiss
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« Reply #65 on: March 27, 2008, 11:10:15 PM +0000 »

how gutted am i ?!!

Had great pace tonight and really had the Porker hooked up nicely. I was able to bang in a load of 47 and 48 laptimes and was really hoping for a podium place tonight.

Got a reasonably good start and enjoyed an early dice with ginsters down to turn 1. Got past a few cars and caught Baracus after about 3 laps. My car seemed much quicker through the twisties and i was glued to him for a couple of laps looking for a way past. I got caught out down at T1 when the 911 was able to brake much much later than his Beemer and i unfortunately just tagged his rear causing us both to go off. Sorry about that Bara, i hope you could see how much later i could brake at that corner on the following laps when i kept gaining ground on you there. Bara got his revenge a lap or so later when, with me glued to his bumper, he got well out of shape near the end of the infield. I was certain he was going off for sure and so looked to keep going up the side but as his car came further round into a half spin, i had nowhere to go and had to throw it off the track to avoid contact, dropping from 3rd fight down to about 6th/7th  :'(
Then did the standard hot and bothered bit and dropped it about 3 times more when close behind others in corners when they got out of shape which gradually dropped me down to a lousy 9th. Sad
I kept fighting my way back up only to suffer the same fate behind someone tonight, dont know why but i seemed much quicker and stable than most in corners and suffered accordingly when forced to brake or change direction mid corner.
Had a great race, really liked that track,  Cool just feels like a lost opportunity to grab a great finish  Sad I'll take some solace from setting the fastest race lap..cant believe i did a quicker lap than Jeff !  ShockedTongue
Well done to the pody guys  Cool
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« Reply #66 on: March 28, 2008, 07:04:03 AM +0000 »

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And sorry to Dan Minton too, I was trying to let a stream of front runners through but ran out of road as you went round me and couldn't go anywhere except your door.
Np mate cant even remember it...Had a great race , Had to slip the clutch for ages to get the thing of the line as i had to adjust the gear ratio so far up the revs so not to be redlining half way down the straight.  Had agood battle with Bara for  afew laps and finally got passed and was amazed how fast i was catching pR, once i caught him i realised why never seen a car with so much understeer. Sat glued to his bumper for about 10 laps then went off and Sbg got through . This left me a bout 4 secs back managed to catch up and ahad a great battle throught the lefts and right sorry for the tap Pr was not intententional . Got past and pulled wawy but Jr was 22 seconds ahead by this time .
grats jeff and nice driving br the backmarkers not the easiest track to get out of the way on.
Cheers
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« Reply #67 on: March 28, 2008, 09:06:05 AM +0000 »

Yep, quite a successful outing  thumbdown

Absolute amatuer hour, had it in neutral off the line, then after showing some reasonable pace and making up a few places, brain fade set in and saw me off into the boonies at the final turn after completely overcooking it.

A few laps later I managed to drive into two sideways bimmers who were spinning at that same corner and then with majorly crooked steering followed my achievements by tapping Keith and putting a dent in my team mate's lovely new paint job. Sorry people, was a poor show.

A few more offs saw multiple cut warnings and a very battered porker pull into the pits with a stop/go.

All in all, a shambles of a return to the league but really well done to the podium chaps and everyone who kept it on the black stuff, that one was well earned.

Roll on Porto and the greenies revenge.

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« Reply #68 on: March 28, 2008, 09:18:55 AM +0000 »

I think I know what my problem might. Every time GTL gets to loading Phil Gilliland, it crashes. I guess I might be missing his car, but no clue how.

I haven't got any cars Syd.

Don't know what it was. I tried at least 10 times to join. It always ended up the same, loads the track, starts loading drivers, gets to your name, and CTDs.
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« Reply #69 on: March 28, 2008, 09:24:12 AM +0000 »

by the way whoever painted those lovely Porsches in that disgusting Nuclear Lime Green should be dragged around the back of the garages and shot !!  Sad  Wink
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« Reply #70 on: March 28, 2008, 09:53:25 AM +0000 »

That was me - team orders  Grin
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« Reply #71 on: March 28, 2008, 10:33:18 AM +0000 »

Think it is the lobby causing all these issues.  Took me ages to connect to the practice server, like Tibs said, you'd put in the password and wait for a while and nothing happened.  But exactly the same happened to me trying to join a passworded NoGrip race on Wednesday night.  Multiple router restarts and finally in both cases was able to connect.

Also had constantly reloading tracks on the practice server, no stability.  That was sorted after an exit and router restart.

I also had the CTD that Syd had when I first connected to the race server, after everyone had been loaded, bang, crash.  A restart and this time I was in safely.  So getting all these problems but still managing to get in it looks like just a very flaky lobby combined with particular connections having more problems I guess.

Let's hope the lobby improves......  Undecided
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« Reply #72 on: March 28, 2008, 11:00:57 AM +0000 »

Whch router are you using? I'm using a Belkin 54G and I don't know if you need to configure the firewall to be able to get GTL to work.

Tried from 7:00 till 9:00 to connect to the server, and it never worked. I could join the prodigy server but not the UKGTL one.

Took me ages to connect to the practice server, like Tibs said, you'd put in the password and wait for a while and nothing happened.  But exactly the same happened to me trying to join a passworded NoGrip race on Wednesday night. 

Which would suggest to me that there's a bug with the lobby and passworded servers. Which would explain why I could connect to the prodigy server. Undecided
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« Reply #73 on: March 28, 2008, 11:11:43 AM +0000 »

i've got a Belkin router and i had no problems at all with the GTL lobby or servers over the last couple of nights.

And Will...shame on you! You should have refused to use that colour on the grounds of common decency  euro and the mods shouldnt have allowed it in the skin pack ! surrender , it would look more at home in Duke Nukem or banger racing !!

The team responsible = gun_bandana   Grin
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« Reply #74 on: March 28, 2008, 11:19:58 AM +0000 »

That was great fun!
Qualified in 17th ! finished 10th !!
Thanks to all those who spun out and had incidents in front of me! Much appreciated!!  Grin
Managed to get through a 5 car pile up at one corner !! with no contact!!
Just kept putting in 1.51's and watched everybody else loose their heads!  Cheesy
Some great close battles with a few people.
Excellent fun! Suprising as I really hated that track!

M.

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