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  • L5 Porto: April 03, 2008
April 03, 2008, 08:55:16 PM +0100 - Porto - UKGTL Season 5 Season 5 GT Classics Cup
Driver
 Team		 Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Jeffrey
 Team Shark		 Austin-Healey 3000 (#200105) GTC-65 1 2:16.978
77.947mph		 1 40:16.386
75.116mph		 17 2:19.272
76.663mph
Dunlop  
Mike Wrightson
 rF Gentlemens Racing Club		 Renault Alpine A110 (#580) GTC-65 4 +2.335
76.641mph		 2 +15.270
74.644mph		 17 2:20.100
76.210mph
Dunlop  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers		 Austin-Healey 3000 (#473) GTC-65 5 +2.386
76.613mph		 3 +23.978
74.378mph		 17 2:21.306
75.560mph
Dunlop  
pribeiro
 Ghostspeed		 Renault Alpine A110 (#501) GTC-65 12 +7.180
74.065mph		 4 +39.809
73.899mph		 17 2:21.946
75.219mph
Dunlop  
TinMan
 Team Oldie Racing		 Renault Alpine A110 (#580) GTC-65 10 +6.516
74.408mph		 5 +1:20.392
72.698mph		 17 2:24.405
73.938mph
Dunlop  
Ade
 Kerb Crawlers		 Austin-Healey 3000 (#450) GTC-65 7 +4.276
75.588mph		 6 +1:20.786
72.686mph		 17 2:22.719
74.812mph
Dunlop  
Blunder
 Team Oldie Racing		 Ferrari 250GT SWB (#68) GTC-65 9 +6.300
74.520mph		 7 +1:44.095
72.014mph		 17 2:25.032
73.619mph
Dunlop  
will16v
 Prodigy Racing		 Renault Alpine A110 (#118125) GTC-65 13 +7.457
73.923mph		 8 +1:44.209
72.011mph		 17 2:22.664
74.840mph
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Prodigy Racing		 Renault Alpine A110 (#179412) GTC-65 18 +9.278
73.002mph		 9 +1L
70.506mph		 16 2:26.427
72.917mph
Dunlop  
Phil Gilliland
 Team Pseudo Racing		 Austin-Healey 3000 (#453) GTC-65 16 +7.997
73.647mph		 10 +23.597
69.826mph		 16 2:27.631
72.322mph
Dunlop  
Oilseal
 Team Oldie Racing		 Renault Alpine A110 (#580) GTC-65 20 +11.119
72.095mph		 11 +51.249
69.046mph		 16 2:29.151
71.585mph
Dunlop  
Alex vV
 Gentlemen Drivers Club		 Ferrari 250GT SWB (#68) GTC-65 22 +11.873
71.730mph		 12 +1:25.787
68.095mph		 16 2:30.729
70.836mph
Dunlop  
LigelC
 		 Renault Alpine A110 (#501) GTC-65 24 +14.667
70.408mph		 13 +2:10.192
66.911mph		 16 2:33.490
69.562mph
Dunlop  
baracus250gt
 Ghostspeed		 Ferrari 250GT SWB (#60) GTC-65 6 +3.759
75.865mph		 14 (+1) +2L
64.891mph		 15 2:18.956
76.838mph
Dunlop  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing		 Austin-Healey 3000 (#473) GTC-65 14 +7.487
73.907mph		 15 +31.064
64.085mph		 15 2:26.576
72.843mph
Dunlop  
stnasky
 		 Ferrari 250GT SWB (#612) GTC-65 16 +11L 6 2:24.063
74.114mph		 unknown
Dunlop  
Mark J
 Legends Racing		 Ferrari 250GT SWB (#68) GTC-65 17 +8.782
73.251mph		 17 +12L 5 2:28.673
71.816mph		 unknown
Dunlop  
Tibernius
 Prodigy Racing		 Renault Alpine A110 (#179412) GTC-65 26 +24.991
65.920mph		 18 5 2:43.063
65.478mph		 unknown
Dunlop  
Mr.BMW
 Prodigy Racing		 Renault Alpine A110 (#179412) GTC-65 15 +7.578
73.861mph		 19 +13L 4 2:29.610
71.366mph		 unknown
Dunlop  
Steve Holmes
 Legends Racing		 Ferrari 250GT SWB (#60) GTC-65 8 +4.788
75.315mph		 20 (+2) +14L 3 2:25.735
73.263mph		 unknown
Dunlop  
psuedo
 Team Pseudo Racing		 Renault Alpine A110 (#580) GTC-65 19 +10.714
72.293mph		 21 +15L 2 3:00.744
59.073mph		 suspension
Dunlop  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers		 Renault Alpine A110 (#580) GTC-65 11 +7.116
74.098mph		 22 +16L 1 3:04.583
57.844mph		 suspension
Dunlop  
[POOdle]andyq
 		 Ferrari 250GT SWB (#68) GTC-65 23 +13.766
70.829mph		 23 1 3:00.468
59.163mph		 suspension
Dunlop  
ASSASSINO
 Ghostspeed		 Austin-Healey 3000 (#471) GTC-65 3 +1.913
76.874mph		 Excluded +12L 5 2:19.799
76.374mph		 engine
Dunlop  
Dan Minton
 Team RVS		 Austin-Healey 3000 (#202914) GTC-65 2 +1.401
77.158mph		 +17L 0 ---
---		 suspension
Dunlop  
[POOdle]Keith
 		 Ferrari 250GT SWB (#612) GTC-65 21 +11.164
72.073mph		 0 ---
---		 unknown
Dunlop  
Sandor M
 Gentlemen Drivers Club		 Renault Alpine A110 (#580) GTC-65 25 +16.298
69.659mph		 0 ---
---		 suspension
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 51s

Baracus brakes far later than those around him into T1 and, despite his best efforts to avoid contact, hits the back of Ruskus very hard. It was only through a mixture of luck and Ruskus's driving skills that a very serious incident was avoided. Credit goes to Baracus for admitting his mistake and apologising accordingly.

Server replay time: 53s

Steve Holmes gets a very good start, overtakes a few but brakes much later than those around him, and probably too late, into first turn. Unfortunately, he clatters into Dan Minton, effectively ending his race and causes chaos for those behind. Much to his credit, Steve has owned up to his mistake and apologises for it.



Both these first turn incidents share the same underlying problem which needs to be addressed. Both Steve and Baracus appear to be trying to gain places whilst those around them are proceeding with great caution, hence even two of our best and fairest drivers were caught out by the careful and slightly early braking into first turn. We want to continue to see the same common sense and cautious approach to the first corner and, now this issue has been raised, we do not want to see the same mistakes that featured here again. Yes, race and take places into first turn but equally, be very wary.

  • Steve Holmes — penalty — Penalty - Rear end shunt — 2 places lost

Server replay time: 1123s

Ade spins whilst trying to hold off PR into first tight chicane. To be fair he ends up in an awfull spot right on the racing line and you can almost sense him mulling over his options. Unfortunately, he gets it a little wrong and reverses into Tin Man whilst being unsighted. Considering no damage was done, the tight spot Ade was in and how TinMan is willing to let it pass then no penalty is necessary.

Racing incident.

  • Racing incident

Server replay time: 2000s

After the unfortunate first turn incident Dan expresses his displeasure via the in-game chat. Whatever the provacation, there can be no excuse for this behaviour. Considering the language used, perhaps this may have been passed over without the similar later incident and Dan has publicly apologised for his mistake so this will only result in a warning.

Warning-abusive language.

Server replay time: 2000s

After another incident, in which no blame has been apportioned, Assassino expresses his displeasure via the in-game chat. But he uses much more colourful language and is far more personnal in his abuse than the earlier incident. Again, there is no provocation that can justify this reaction. As this is a more serious offence than earlier incident, reluctantly we have no choice but to exclude Assassino from this event.


These two incidents have shocked and suprised us all and will not be tolerated again. This time, we have been inclined to be somewhat lenient in our punishments but if anyone errs in this manner again the penalty will be far more draconian. No one wants to see it and we will not accept it again.

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« Reply #30 on: April 02, 2008, 04:37:34 PM +0100 »
I am hoping to join you all tomorrow at delightful Porto.  Using the Alpine I have managed most laps in 2:32.xx and occasionally got into the 2:31's.  Think this means I'm inside the 10% rule so unless something goes belly-up I'll join you (at the back of course).

What is name of your chat room and where do I get the pass word - noticed on Ginster's first post it says race 'password above' - but link is inactive.  Last question, is it a normal standing start? 

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« Reply #31 on: April 02, 2008, 04:45:39 PM +0100 »
Chat room? You've been playing GPL too long mate!  laugh
There's the blasted SimBin lobby to go through to get to the server. Angry

That's about the same pace as me so if they don't let you race I'm in big trouble! Grin

As for the server name and start type:

Quote from: ginsters sponsored on February 23, 2008, 02:04:10 PM +0000
Start: STANDING

Server: UKGTL Classics Cup

Looking forward to racing against you (assuming I don't crash at the first corner Grin).
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« Reply #32 on: April 02, 2008, 05:03:17 PM +0100 »
Quote from: LigelC on April 02, 2008, 04:37:34 PM +0100
I am hoping to join you all tomorrow at delightful Porto.  Using the Alpine I have managed most laps in 2:32.xx and occasionally got into the 2:31's.  Think this means I'm inside the 10% rule so unless something goes belly-up I'll join you (at the back of course).

What is name of your chat room and where do I get the pass word - noticed on Ginster's first post it says race 'password above' - but link is inactive.  Last question, is it a normal standing start? 

Laurie


All the answers you seek are contained within (or close to) the very first post in this thread  Smiley
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« Reply #33 on: April 02, 2008, 06:51:53 PM +0100 »
I would pick this track to return to GTL  Shocked  Set off and though it was narrow... then it got narrower !  Gonna be interesting for sure.
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« Reply #34 on: April 02, 2008, 07:44:50 PM +0100 »
Password is only released a certain time before event Laurie, it should be there now. Its always same event and pracci password for UKGTL.

Welcome to you and welcome back to you Mike Smiley. Maybe not the easiest event to start, or return with but I can guarantee it will not be dull  Smiley
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« Reply #35 on: April 02, 2008, 07:49:41 PM +0100 »
Just done a few laps - going to sit this one out, despite the Healey being available, as it's stupidly tight and almost bound to end in the same sort of carnage which has stopped me racing at Monaco too. Undecided
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« Reply #36 on: April 02, 2008, 09:11:50 PM +0100 »
Thanks for the information evryone - see you tomorrow

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« Reply #37 on: April 02, 2008, 09:19:22 PM +0100 »
Here's an idea: why don't we have a UKGTL endurance race at Monaco? lol
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« Reply #38 on: April 02, 2008, 11:24:22 PM +0100 »
Quote from: Tibernius on April 02, 2008, 09:19:22 PM +0100
Here's an idea: why don't we have a UKGTL endurance race at Monaco? lol
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« Reply #39 on: April 02, 2008, 11:28:00 PM +0100 »
Not really complaining of the track choice - as it's very fun to drive.

Moreso worried about the fact that I'm far from a professional video game race car driver, and I have a bad feeling that my hours of practice/tweaking the setup will be wasted due to the fact that this track literally will not allow a single error Sad
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« Reply #40 on: April 03, 2008, 12:37:39 AM +0100 »
Me thinks softly, softly ,catchy ,monkey on this one! first outing i got round the track once without killing the car or ending up doing Olympic class tumbles down the road Grin this is going to be a mad one  eek
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« Reply #41 on: April 03, 2008, 01:19:28 AM +0100 »
Quote from: Mr.BMW on April 02, 2008, 11:28:00 PM +0100
Not really complaining of the track choice - as it's very fun to drive.

Moreso worried about the fact that I'm far from a professional video game race car driver, and I have a bad feeling that my hours of practice/tweaking the setup will be wasted due to the fact that this track literally will not allow a single error Sad

None of us are professionals here, and I for one have the same fears, Every race...GTL and GTR2 (just read last nights race report from mugello lol) but I also enjoy the challenge and this track offers a slightly different one to the normal in the sense of more cunning and guile rather than out right pace or driving skill......not managed to turn a wheel here yet, but I am quite looking forward to it, despite the obvious difficulties.
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« Reply #42 on: April 03, 2008, 08:34:05 AM +0100 »
Quote from: Alex vV on April 02, 2008, 09:57:33 AM +0100
Great choice Ginsters.. (track and car)

Thanks but, as with all things UKGTL, I can't take all the credit. If the harbingers of doom here are proved right, please remember this was Pseudo's choice Wink
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« Reply #43 on: April 03, 2008, 08:58:36 AM +0100 »
Softly softly, get punted by a monkey (no offence) more likely, but its a great idea in theory Ade Grin

Even if you don't finish, just take heart that the replay footage of us all through that last chicane will make a lovely souvenir for all the family.

Do we have any video editors in the place? I feel a YouTube destruction montage coming on..muhahahahaa
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« Reply #44 on: April 03, 2008, 09:09:08 AM +0100 »
ran some more laps last night but it doesnt get any easier !

I'm setting quick times, (2:28's) but as someone else mentioned, it doesnt allow a single error or you are in big trouble. Very hard to be consistent (in the right way) i found, two quick laps, tag a barrier, two quick laps, tag a barrier... Tongue

Very easy to flip the car along the kerbed armco, which is a bit naff.
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