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  • NGT Sprint - S1 R5 - Donington: August 09, 2005
August 09, 2005, 09:23:44 PM +0100 - Donington Park (GP) - UKGTR GTR1 Sprint Season 1 N-GT
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Matjaz Plotajs
 dE Racing
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 4 +0.848
95.880mph
1 32:09.795
92.454mph
20 1:33.714
95.193mph
Dunlop  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 2 +0.601
96.135mph
2 +10.050
91.975mph
20 1:33.466
95.445mph
Pirelli  
Paul968
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 1 1:32.194
96.762mph
3 +12.287
91.869mph
20 1:33.213
95.704mph
Pirelli  
Mike Wrightson
 dE Racing
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 3 +0.653
96.082mph
4 +30.645
91.009mph
20 1:33.604
95.305mph
Dunlop  
picnic
 Team Shark
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 10 +2.446
94.261mph
5 +43.133
90.433mph
20 1:34.801
94.101mph
Dunlop  
greg130
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 7 +1.912
94.796mph
6 +55.152
89.885mph
20 1:36.006
92.920mph
Dunlop  
[ZiP]Tyf
 Ze insane Penguins
Porsche 996 GT2 Bi-turbo NGT 6 +1.146
95.574mph
7 +58.109
89.752mph
20 1:33.804
95.101mph
Pirelli  
popabawa
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 14 +3.522
93.202mph
8 +1:09.107
89.258mph
20 1:35.887
93.035mph
Dunlop  
Aagramn
 Team Shark
Morgan Aero 8 NGT 12 +2.558
94.150mph
9 +1:12.183
89.121mph
20 1:35.434
93.477mph
Dunlop  
PaulW
 Legends Racing
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 11 +2.467
94.240mph
10 +1:14.569
89.015mph
20 1:35.286
93.622mph
Dunlop  
rufbtr
 Speedworx
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 13 +2.755
93.955mph
11 +1:26.735
88.478mph
20 1:35.747
93.171mph
Pirelli  
Don
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 9 +2.359
94.348mph
12 (+3) +1:33.504
88.182mph
20 1:35.430
93.481mph
Pirelli  
fozzmeister
 The Crafty Butchers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 15 +3.653
93.074mph
13 (+4) +1:37.480
88.009mph
20 1:35.174
93.732mph
Dunlop  
as-here
 
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 18 +4.733
92.037mph
14 +2L
80.844mph
18 1:37.102
91.871mph
Dunlop  
Rob Bywater "Kerb Crawlers"
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 19 +5.800
91.035mph
15 +1:12.160
78.010mph
18 1:38.310
90.742mph
Dunlop  
silver53
 Ze insane Penguins
Porsche 996 GT2 Bi-turbo NGT 21 +6.839
90.080mph
16 +3L
77.127mph
17 1:38.334
90.720mph
Pirelli  
Jamera
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 20 +6.487
90.401mph
17 +29.835
75.974mph
17 1:37.734
91.277mph
Dunlop  
mo
 
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 8 +2.346
94.361mph
18 +6L 14 1:34.381
94.520mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Bernie Lomax
 
Porsche 996 GT2 Bi-turbo NGT 5 +1.062
95.660mph
19 +9L 11 1:32.884
96.043mph
unknown
Pirelli  
TinMan
 
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 17 +4.701
92.068mph
20 +14L 6 1:38.789
90.302mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Wilier
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 16 +3.689
93.039mph
21 +16L 4 1:37.411
91.580mph
unknown
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

All drivers are reminded that during qualifying, you must be extra cautious as you exit the pits; you cannot set a good time on your outlap, but you can certainly ruin the hotlaps of others. If I receive repeated reports of particular drivers causing problems I will penalise them.


Server replay time: 248s

On the first flying, at what are now called the Fogarty Esses, Fozz brakes too late with cold tyres and brakes, slides up the inside of Popabawa, and spins off. Luckily Pops is unaffected.

Because this is the first racing lap, this would normally be a 3 place penalty. However, because this was cock up rather than conspiracy, and because Fozz had the sense to hold his hand up and submit a very honest incident report, I'm reducing it to 2.


Server replay time: 270s

PaulW is following Mo into Goddards, with Mo on the left and PaulW on the right. Mo began moving over to the right to take the normal line into the corner, so Paul started to move left so he wasn't right behind him. Unfortunately they reach the braking zone just as their paths cross and with no room to spare Paul tags the back of Mo, spinning him off.

This is quite an unusual situation and not at all like a classic rear ender. As much as anything it serves to highlight the importance of taking a clear line and not changing it or driving down the middle of the track in a braking zone. In this instance it's exacerbated by the right hand kink just before Goddards.

Neither driver did anything outrageous, so it's essentially a racing incident.

  • moadvice — choose a definite line before reaching a braking zone


Server replay time: 1409s

Popabawa is some way behind Don1 (wobble) as they head towads the Foggy Esses. Pops brakes as normal and moves slightly left in case Don has broken early, but Don1 turns in too early (perhaps thinking to defend the line? we may never know as he didn't submit a report), and has to slow dramatically to make the corner, whereupon Pops runs into the back of him.

Pops does allow Don to rejoin ahead, and since Don wasn't upset enough to submit an incident report I'm going to let it go with just a caution.

  • popabawacaution — contact with Don1


Server replay time: 1839s

Having gone off unaided under braking, Don1 (wobble) rejoins far too eagerly at Goddards and drives straight onto the racing line without stopping to look, and into Fozz.

  • Don (Don1)penalty — bad rejoin — 3 places lost

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« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2005, 10:30:49 PM +0100 »

Good fun race, stayed out of trouble and cruised around for 9th, pleased with that. Made one mistake, took too much kerb at the chicane and spun. The Morgan didn't seem to have much grip to start with, and seemed to lose some of it half way through. Bring on the GT cars tomorrow. Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2005, 10:32:42 PM +0100 »

Lol @ tank Rob!

I had a much better qualyfying time than expected. Picked the 'boat with the dogface' again, because Popa told me so in another thread Wink. Was only tenths behind Lomax, who's quick with the Bi-T. Managed to put enough fuel in... But yup, you guess it... Forgot to change friggin tyres! LOOOL!
Have you lot ever tried to drive the Bi-T on Donny with soft fronts and medium rears for more than 10 laps? Haha! I was on eggs aka 3665 (ZiP clan 'swear' word as well, lol  Wink). So actually I feel the morale winner today, having only gone off the track once in loads of laps! Cheesy Woohoo! Congrats to winners! And well done Aagramn for NOT taking the 'default' cars Wink  Angry Shocked Cheesy



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« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2005, 10:33:20 PM +0100 »

Sad  4th place was nice, but I was very frustrated with that one.  Great qually!  new PB by miles so thought it was going to come together, but my usuall bugbear of the BRAKES affects me badly here.  It's just soooo damn easy to lock them!  There must be something I can do with the setup to help lessen this, it is driving me mad.

When I'm by myself it's fine, but when I come up to another car, I'm so scared of locking the wheels and sliding into them that I don't brake hard enough and crash into them anyway!!   I think thats what happened when I crashed into as-here when coming up to lap him Sad  Really sorry, I was hoping you would turn the corner, but I think you got sideways on the bump??

The pace at the front was amazing and I just couldn't stay with it!
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« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2005, 10:37:26 PM +0100 »

And well done Aagramn for NOT taking the 'default' cars Wink  Angry Shocked Cheesy

Lol, I'd like to be able to claim I took it to add some variety to the grid, but I can't drive the 360 & GT3 at Doni without spinning. Wink

Results are up in the usual place btw.
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« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2005, 10:45:35 PM +0100 »

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Bloody hell! It's close at the top!
Shark = Mike = Matjas! All on 127!
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« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2005, 10:54:10 PM +0100 »

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Bloody hell! It's close at the top!
Shark = Mike = Matjas! All on 127!

Err, the maths is a bit (completely) wrong.
50 + 50 + 50 = 150 for Matjaz.
I should be leading by 6 on 156.
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« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2005, 10:57:00 PM +0100 »

Mein gott, Shark has got his maths right for once.  Shocked

I'll raise this with Dave.
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« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2005, 10:58:03 PM +0100 »

Adrenaline event for me. I couldn't enter the server for a very funny reason... track not installed... haha yeah right. When I did manage to enter I was then disconected 3 times. Wanted to call it a day but then decided to restart GTR and give it another try. When I joined the qualifying session there were 3 minutes left so I just grab the F360 with almost default setup and wrong front tyres to do 1 single hot lap which brought me to 4th position on the starting grid.

Start was very strange. I opened the throttle to soon and had to brake to avoid overtaking my team mate before the start/finish line. In the first corner Mike went a bit wide and I managed to gain a position. Then I saw Paul making a mistake when battling with Shark coming into the chicane so I could overtake him. Straight after that Shark did a very coutious braking in the very slow right corner after the chicane giving me a chance to take the lead. The two guys behind me had a great fight and were following me closely. I was completely unprepaired for the race and was doing half a second slower times from my Morgan times. I still regret not choosing the Morgan. It would be funny to lead a race with that wooden piece of english tradition... I really think I would have been faster then in F360. Lack of proper setup ment I was struggling in a few places but stil managed to stay ahead of Shark and Paul.

Then we had some backmarkers and the first one almost cost me the lead while overtaking the second one gave me a 4 seconds advantage. After that the gap climbed to 8 seconds and I began to drive a bit more cautious. It was funny to observe my pitboard... one lap it said I was 19th then 13th and then finally 1st... I just hoped I'll survive it without disconection.

Great race like always, hope you enjoyed it as much as I did despite some Simbin hiccups.
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« Reply #23 on: August 09, 2005, 11:00:29 PM +0100 »

Another absorbing, frustrating and intense race. Got a nice PB in qual to get pole (with less of a frame rate hit than normal, unsurprisingly), and then chucked it away by overdoing it warming my tyres on the pace lap. Over the start line in 2nd and followed Simon pretty closely up to the esses, where he made a small error, I had to back out to avoid contact and Mat was through - thx Simon! ;-) Mat then finished the job next corner, ducking inside a rather nervous Shark at the loop.

Spent the next few laps settling in, making a couple of small mistakes, and then started to close the gap. Simon was slower at the old hairpin and macleans, but it was very hard to make anything stick - the track was too twisty up the hill out of the old hairpin, and the straight to Coppice too short. Had a couple of good attempts but Simon always covered the inside line and it is very hard to outbrake someone from the outside given the poor peripheral vision. The battle went on and on, until Simon went wide round a backmarker at the last corner, I tucked in tight and we passed either side down the home straight. I glanced right to see where he was, stupidly drifted off the track and spun down the inside losing many seconds and a place to Bernie. He then lost it a lap later after the old hairpin.  

Amazingly I was back up with Simon only a few laps later, but by then my tyres must have been shagged and I was making too many little mistakes to really challenge for the place. Backed off for the last few laps and trundled home in 3rd.

Overall, despite being stupid on the pace lap, I had a great time dicing with Simon - very clean as always and very close. I finished bathed in sweat, but I loved every second of it.  Grin Surely though I'm due an uneventful race soon?

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« Reply #24 on: August 09, 2005, 11:05:07 PM +0100 »

It was funny to observe my pitboard... one lap it said I was 19th then 13th and then finally 1st... I just hoped I'll survive it without disconection.

Yeah, I kept being promoted to 1st despite still being able to see you ahead, which was very nice of the game but a little unfair Shocked. I thought at one point maybe it had discounted one of your laps for cutting the chicane as there was one lap you seemed to not use any track at all but alas no it was just the game being silly. Cheesy Wink

I still regret not choosing the Morgan.

I must admit I toyed a lot with the idea of the Morgan too, it just seems to go so well round Donington, much better feel than the F360 which seems to really dislike Donington. In the end I chickened out. Tongue Next season I think I will either take the Morgan or Mosler as the F360 is very common now.
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« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2005, 11:07:43 PM +0100 »

...Surely though I'm due an uneventful race soon?

Just take the Lotus in an Endurance race m8, preferably on Spa! LOL! Wink Cheesy  Grin

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« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2005, 11:09:10 PM +0100 »

The real standings at the top of the NGT sprint table are:

1. Shark 156
2. Matjaz Plotajs 150
3. Mike Wrightson 134

Looks like the results table isn't accepting values greater than a signed byte, the GT Sprint table has the same problem.
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« Reply #27 on: August 09, 2005, 11:12:45 PM +0100 »

If you could contrive for the system to permanently lose all points above 127, I'd be eternally grateful!  Cheesy
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« Reply #28 on: August 09, 2005, 11:14:50 PM +0100 »

If you could contrive for the system to permanently lose all points above 127, I'd be eternally grateful!  Cheesy

And in the case of a tie at the end of the season, the winner will be decided alphabetically.  Wink
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« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2005, 11:20:15 PM +0100 »

And in the case of a tie at the end of the season, the winner will be decided alphabetically.  Wink

ROFL!  Grin Grin Grin Grin
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