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  • GT Sprint - S1 R5 - Donington: August 10, 2005
August 10, 2005, 09:21:19 PM +0100 - Donington Park (GP) - UKGTR GTR1 Sprint Season 1 GT
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Mark Harrison
 Kerb Crawlers
Lister Storm GT1 2 +0.444
102.156mph
1 32:02.784
97.431mph
21 1:27.475
101.982mph
Dunlop  
JonM_uk
 Ze insane Penguins
Lister Storm GT1 1 1:26.882
102.678mph
2 +0.211
97.420mph
21 1:27.457
102.003mph
Dunlop  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT GT1 3 +0.593
101.982mph
3 +10.388
96.907mph
21 1:27.988
101.388mph
Michelin  
locutos ukgtr
 DM Racing
Lister Storm GT1 5 +0.898
101.628mph
4 +25.496
96.156mph
21 1:28.795
100.466mph
Dunlop  
Blaz
 
Lister Storm GT1 10 +1.624
100.794mph
5 +35.401
95.670mph
21 1:28.982
100.255mph
Dunlop  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Lister Storm GT1 13 +2.039
100.324mph
6 +1:06.588
94.170mph
21 1:30.462
98.615mph
Dunlop  
FlyBri
 
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 12 +1.965
100.407mph
7 +1:27.469
93.192mph
21 1:30.821
98.225mph
Michelin  
greg130
 28CD Motorsports
Lister Storm GT1 8 +1.478
100.961mph
8 (+2) +1L
91.809mph
20 1:29.464
99.715mph
Dunlop  
mclaessen
 Speedworx
Saleen S7-R GT1 21 +3.613
98.579mph
9 +9.468
91.363mph
20 1:30.381
98.703mph
Dunlop  
CP
 28CD Motorsports
Lister Storm GT1 19 +3.383
98.830mph
10 +28.682
90.473mph
20 1:31.614
97.375mph
Dunlop  
fozzmeister
 The Crafty Butchers
Ferrari 575 GTC GT1 17 +3.210
99.020mph
11 (+9) +48.847
89.558mph
20 1:30.256
98.840mph
Pirelli  
Don
 Kerb Crawlers
Dodge Viper GTS-R GT1 22 +4.989
97.102mph
12 +52.765
89.382mph
20 1:31.661
97.325mph
Dunlop  
Smoothy
 Team Shark
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 14 +2.668
99.619mph
13 +1:03.022
88.925mph
20 1:30.360
98.726mph
Michelin  
cb95amc
 
Lister Storm GT1 16 +3.003
99.248mph
14 (+1) +1:10.793
88.582mph
20 1:30.993
98.039mph
Dunlop  
bernie_eccle
 
Lister Storm GT1 20 +3.406
98.805mph
15 20 1:30.311
98.780mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Jamera
 Kerb Crawlers
Chevrolet Corvette C5-R GT1 23 +6.743
95.283mph
16 +3L
79.367mph
18 1:33.130
95.790mph
Dunlop  
mo
 
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 11 +1.685
100.725mph
17 +6L 15 1:29.609
99.554mph
unknown
Michelin  
Bombdogs
 Ze insane Penguins
Lister Storm GT1 9 +1.490
100.947mph
18 +8L 13 1:29.441
99.741mph
unknown
Dunlop  
harv_gtr
 
Chevrolet Corvette C5-R GT1 15 +2.918
99.342mph
19 13 1:31.021
98.009mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Aagramn
 Team Shark
Lister Storm GT1 4 +0.862
101.670mph
20 +11L 10 1:28.622
100.662mph
suspension
Dunlop  
Luis Branco
 Team Shark
Saleen S7-R GT1 6 +1.319
101.143mph
21 +16L 5 1:29.008
100.226mph
suspension
Dunlop  
David M
 DM Racing
Lister Storm GT1 18 +3.378
98.835mph
22 +17L 4 1:31.644
97.343mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Oilseal
 Team Oldie Racing
Saleen S7-R GT1 24 +10.057
92.026mph
23 +19L 2 1:41.921
87.527mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Truetom
 Ze insane Penguins
Saleen S7-R GT1 7 +1.455
100.987mph
24 +20L 1 2:31.538
58.869mph
unknown
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Whilst reviewing the reported incidents for this event, I saw quite a number of unreported rear end shunts. Whilst I have chosen to ignore them to reduce my workload in this case, I want to stress that there is very rarely any excuse for driving into the back of another car, especially in a single class race, and that rear endings, along with bad rejoins, are the two offences which are the least likely to have any mitigating circumstances.

You have been warned!


Server replay time: 179s

Locutos simply drivers into the back of Aagramn at the end of the pace lap. The rule for everyone but the polesitter is quite clear: "Each following driver should only accelerate when the driver ahead does."

Luckily Aagramn's car isn't damaged.


Server replay time: 254s

Fozz gets himself into no man's land in cb95amc's blind spot into the Foggy Esses and turns the latter round.

Fozz was good enough to hold his hand up and report this one but unfortunately for him, with no mitigating circumstances the full penalty for a first lap rear ending has to apply.


Server replay time: 267s

Maurice spins in the Fogarty Esses; as he rejoins he tags Greg130 and collects Michael Cooper too. Nobody is badly affected.

Maurice says that he couldn't see Greg which means that either he has GTR set to show less than 24 cars, or that he didn't look.

Since neither Greg nor Oilseal reported this incident I'm going to let it go with just a caution, but I must remind all drivers that it is vital that you stop and assess the safety of any rejoin after a spin or off if you are to avoid making a bad situation worse.


Server replay time: 345s

Fozz attempts to improve on his first lap punt at the Foggy Esses by doing the same to Harv, only from further back this time. "D'oh!"


Server replay time: 355s

cb95amc spins off coming out of Coppice; Oilseal slows to avoid him and Maurice Claessen, who's right behind, tries to take advantage by diving past on the right, but Bombdogs, who has been (I think) hit by the 1FPS bug is stationary on the left side of the track, and Oilseal has to swerve to avoid him, making contact with Maurice. Fortunately neither spin.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 620s

Smoothy spins in the Foggy Esses and collects Mo.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 640s

Greg has a moment coming out of the Foggy Esses and Bombdogs gets past on the run down to Adelaide. Bombdogs then runs a touch wide in the middle of Adelaide; Greg goes for the gap, but tries to use all of the road on the exit, despite not being past Bombdogs - in fact, Greg is well wide of the conventional racing line - and there is contact, shoving Bombdogs off the road.

Greg claimed to be "unsighted" at the time, but the fact is that if you stick your car up the inside of another one, common sense should tell you that it's there and you need to leave them room.


Server replay time: 995s

cb95amc has followed Don1 (wobble) down the Craner Curves and is a fraction too close at the old hairpin, tagging the back of Don and spinning him off.

This clearly wasn't a passing attempt but Don was perfectly in control and the contact is down entirely to cb95 being too close and failing to anticipate that his Lister was almost inevitably going to brake later and corner faster than Don's Viper, so a penalty, albeit a slightly reduced one, is required.

  • cb95amcpenalty — rear ending wobble — 1 place lost


Server replay time: 1155s

Jamera uses the wrong part of the inside curb in McLeans and spins. Fozz cannot avoid him; Smoothy, behind Fozz, very sensibly slows down to avoid making it a threesome.

  • Racing incident

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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2005, 10:07:34 PM +0100 »

Qualified 14th on race setup (not much practice so thought it would be safer).

After my shameful performance at Enna I'm pleased to say I kept my nose clean this time.
Just as well really as someone took it off at the Foggy esses when I made a stupid mistake and spun into the first part at low speed while in 9th.
So it was a 55 second pit stop to get it repaired.

Came out of the pits in 20th and finished 14th after spending the rest of the race in amongst people who were a lap ahead.

(edited after watching replay).
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« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2005, 10:11:01 PM +0100 »

who do we put the incident reports into??
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« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2005, 10:14:10 PM +0100 »

Dave Gymer.
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« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2005, 10:16:38 PM +0100 »

Had bad quali (10th), clean race (5th), minor incident (for me) with Luis, hope it is not my fault because i left Luis some space and u made mistake (i think?)
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« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2005, 10:20:08 PM +0100 »

Had a great blast today  Grin
 Just nicked pole with my last lap off mark with a nice time Wink
 Then the race....Started off well and tried to put a bit of a gap between me and mark, and then tried a little harder until I was right on the limit and then beyond, started to make slight errors. The times were pretty fast but I just couldn't shake him. And then the inevitable happened and mark came past at the hairpin,nice move dude! thought he would go away from me, at first he did but was able to see which lines mark was taking(especially through the old hairpin) and started to come back at him, strange thing was that the car seemed to handle better in 2nd place??? Guess that's the pressure.Came close to overtaking at redgate on last lap but that was about only chance.The boy was just to good for me. Great racing mark, and grats on a well deserved win  Wink
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« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2005, 10:23:00 PM +0100 »

Qualified 14th on race setup (not much practice so thought it would be safer).

Think I might do the same for the rest of the season, so I can cruise around and actually finish. I was lapping comfortably until Blaz caught up to me after I passed a back-marker, trying to hold my best pace while watching my mirrors probably caused my mistake. I don't have so much trouble following people around as I just ease off before the big braking points to give myself room for error.
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« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2005, 10:23:04 PM +0100 »

Managed to get my comp freeze out after a few turns - had to reset manualy, everything just f...king froze! Hope I wasn't on the track, that would be a massive destruction! I it was - sorry all, there was really nothing I could do.  Embarrassed

I had to swerve hard to avoid you but just managed, but it was instinct and not sure you can hit a warped car anyway.

Server replay and exports are up here.

I had quite a dull race once my damned tyres had warmed up. Really struggled for the first 3 laps and then tyres on heat and off I went. Couldn't stay with Jon and Mark though, Whoosh, they were fast. Well done to both for their blistering pace.

And finally, two points I'd like to make...

(1) JonM leading the pace lap was going far too slow on the start finish straight on the warmup lap. 45 mph as we crossed the line, we should have been doing 75mph, it bunched up the pack dangerously, so please keep it consistent at the reasonable 75mph speed.
(2) If you are a reserve you should not join before 8:55pm. I believe there was at least one person who joined very early and was a reserve and possibly one other (no names). Please remember to be fair on the full timers they must be allowed 10 mins once the server is started to get in and get the first spots and reserves only get what's left, a free for all when 8:55pm goes <BONG> (use your imagination  Wink)
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« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2005, 10:27:34 PM +0100 »

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« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2005, 10:27:47 PM +0100 »

Wooooh yeah!  Am I knackered.  Brilliant, brilliant race.  All races should be like that.

Qualifying was pretty poor really - I'd done a 26.7 offline in qualy setup, but couldn't hook it up.  It looked as though I might snatch pole anyway, until Jon put his great lap in.  Hmmm, this could be interesting, I thought.

Race started, and we quickly pulled away from Shark, who was having tyre problems.  I was having to really go for it to stay with Jon, I think our fastest laps were both 27.4, which shows how hard we were pushing.  I could see Jon was trying fairly hard though, and I thought if I stayed with him, I'd have a chance.

I got close a couple of times in the first half of the race, before signs that his tyres were starting to go.  He washed out with understeer a couple of times at the hairpins - I wondered whether he outbraked himself, or whether he had put softs on the front or something.  But he regained his momentum, and his former lap times, so I began to doubt that.

Then, about two-thirds into the race, Jon makes a small mistake out of the chicane, and I get a run down to Melbourne hairpin.  I go inside, and make the move stick - Jon tried to cut back under, but I sat on the apex, and there was no chance of that.  Mission accomplished, I thought.  Now the hard part - surviving the pressure of 6-7 laps in front.

So I turned Motec off and just drove.  I didn't care how many laps were left, as long as I stayed in front of Jon, I didn't mind.

Then, 2 laps to go, and everything's going to plan.  Heading down to the chicane, and "you're running low on fuel, pit in next lap".  NOOOOO!!!!  Quick check of Motec and I saw that I indeed only had 4 litres left.  Would it last?  I knew it would be close, so started shortshifting a bit.

Then heading down to the first corner on the last lap, Jon gets a good run and is right on me.  I stay right, defending the inside line, and to my huge relief Jon doesn't find a way to get around me.  All thoughts off shortshifting out of my head, I made sure of not making another mistake.  I didn't - and the fuel held.  So I brought it home, massively relieved, by 2 tenths of a second.  What a tremendously exciting race - Jon and I were so evenly matched.  My championship hopes, which were on life support, have just flickered their eyelids.

Thanks guys Smiley
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« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2005, 10:40:08 PM +0100 »

Yep Definitely a classic encounter mark, hope there's a few more of them  Grin
 Sorry for the slow pace on S/F straight, to be honest I wasn't paying enough attention....Sorry  Sad
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« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2005, 10:47:09 PM +0100 »

Well what a disaster of a race for me, had to happen sometime I guess.
Qualed in 8th, bit slow but not to bad, wow those guys are fast at the top.

Had a good warmup lap, then it was downhill i'm affraid.

Just at the start of lap 1 the noiseist aircraft in the world decides to take off from our local RAF base, the house is vibrating, cant even hear the game, spun twice.  Then to cap it off another bugger takes off, by this stage the kids have run in to ask me whats going on, ive completly lost all concentation and am now at the back of the pack, disaster to say the least ,lol.

So now i'm last with one heck of a lot of overtaking to do, at Doni, fantastic.
Anyway battled my way back up to a resonable position given the previous events. Obviously I pushing fairly hard, well a bit to hard perhaps.  
Then nightmare number 2 unfolds, I pass CP on the exit of the last turn, floor it and promptly spin into the pits, what the heck do I do now. Engage the pit limiter and drive thro, watching all the cars I had just passed overtake me, oh well bugger it.
By this stage i'm back in 16th or so with about 10 mins to go, give up ? Well I was tempted but on we go.
Somehow over the next 10 mins I crawl back up to 9th, then for the 3rd race running the car infront for some unknown reason hands me an extra place, thanks.
So finished 8th in the end, bloody amazing really considering all the events of the race.
Grats to the podium, great times guys.
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« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2005, 10:50:37 PM +0100 »

Greg, do you practice wolverhampton voodoo? Is that the reason we lost 3-1 lead last night?
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« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2005, 11:44:13 PM +0100 »

Had bad quali (10th), clean race (5th), minor incident (for me) with Luis, hope it is not my fault because i left Luis some space and u made mistake (i think?)

That ended my race Sad
But no mistake from me, just race incident I think.
I think both cars were in a blind spot for us both. At least yours were for me. I left some space to the left but I thought you were already behind be. If I knew we were so close I would let it slip a bit to the right as I would be in a better position to take the next right corner.
I think I was in your blind spot as well. In the replay I notice that you jerked a bit to the left when you seem to be aware of my position on you right.
At least that didn't put us both out Wink
However it was an unfortunate way to end the race.
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« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2005, 12:59:48 AM +0100 »

Greg, do you practice wolverhampton voodoo? Is that the reason we lost 3-1 lead last night?

Hehe, if only I had such powers. Still its nice to be above you guys in the league, even if it is early days.
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« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2005, 07:18:43 AM +0100 »

Were you in a Saleen? There was a saleen with uberlag on L1 - I ploughed right through it with no damage!

Yes, I was in yellow Saleen. As far as I can tell I didn't cause a massive incident.  Smiley That's really strange 'cause I joined a public race and had no problems whatsoever. #&*#! Another race went by!  Huh
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