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  • GT Sprint - S1 R5 - Donington: August 10, 2005
August 10, 2005, 09:21:19 PM +0100 - Donington Park (GP) - UKGTR GTR1 Sprint Season 1 GT
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Mark Harrison
 Kerb Crawlers
Lister Storm GT1 2 +0.444
102.156mph
1 32:02.784
97.431mph
21 1:27.475
101.982mph
Dunlop  
JonM_uk
 Ze insane Penguins
Lister Storm GT1 1 1:26.882
102.678mph
2 +0.211
97.420mph
21 1:27.457
102.003mph
Dunlop  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT GT1 3 +0.593
101.982mph
3 +10.388
96.907mph
21 1:27.988
101.388mph
Michelin  
locutos ukgtr
 DM Racing
Lister Storm GT1 5 +0.898
101.628mph
4 +25.496
96.156mph
21 1:28.795
100.466mph
Dunlop  
Blaz
 
Lister Storm GT1 10 +1.624
100.794mph
5 +35.401
95.670mph
21 1:28.982
100.255mph
Dunlop  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Lister Storm GT1 13 +2.039
100.324mph
6 +1:06.588
94.170mph
21 1:30.462
98.615mph
Dunlop  
FlyBri
 
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 12 +1.965
100.407mph
7 +1:27.469
93.192mph
21 1:30.821
98.225mph
Michelin  
greg130
 28CD Motorsports
Lister Storm GT1 8 +1.478
100.961mph
8 (+2) +1L
91.809mph
20 1:29.464
99.715mph
Dunlop  
mclaessen
 Speedworx
Saleen S7-R GT1 21 +3.613
98.579mph
9 +9.468
91.363mph
20 1:30.381
98.703mph
Dunlop  
CP
 28CD Motorsports
Lister Storm GT1 19 +3.383
98.830mph
10 +28.682
90.473mph
20 1:31.614
97.375mph
Dunlop  
fozzmeister
 The Crafty Butchers
Ferrari 575 GTC GT1 17 +3.210
99.020mph
11 (+9) +48.847
89.558mph
20 1:30.256
98.840mph
Pirelli  
Don
 Kerb Crawlers
Dodge Viper GTS-R GT1 22 +4.989
97.102mph
12 +52.765
89.382mph
20 1:31.661
97.325mph
Dunlop  
Smoothy
 Team Shark
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 14 +2.668
99.619mph
13 +1:03.022
88.925mph
20 1:30.360
98.726mph
Michelin  
cb95amc
 
Lister Storm GT1 16 +3.003
99.248mph
14 (+1) +1:10.793
88.582mph
20 1:30.993
98.039mph
Dunlop  
bernie_eccle
 
Lister Storm GT1 20 +3.406
98.805mph
15 20 1:30.311
98.780mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Jamera
 Kerb Crawlers
Chevrolet Corvette C5-R GT1 23 +6.743
95.283mph
16 +3L
79.367mph
18 1:33.130
95.790mph
Dunlop  
mo
 
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 11 +1.685
100.725mph
17 +6L 15 1:29.609
99.554mph
unknown
Michelin  
Bombdogs
 Ze insane Penguins
Lister Storm GT1 9 +1.490
100.947mph
18 +8L 13 1:29.441
99.741mph
unknown
Dunlop  
harv_gtr
 
Chevrolet Corvette C5-R GT1 15 +2.918
99.342mph
19 13 1:31.021
98.009mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Aagramn
 Team Shark
Lister Storm GT1 4 +0.862
101.670mph
20 +11L 10 1:28.622
100.662mph
suspension
Dunlop  
Luis Branco
 Team Shark
Saleen S7-R GT1 6 +1.319
101.143mph
21 +16L 5 1:29.008
100.226mph
suspension
Dunlop  
David M
 DM Racing
Lister Storm GT1 18 +3.378
98.835mph
22 +17L 4 1:31.644
97.343mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Oilseal
 Team Oldie Racing
Saleen S7-R GT1 24 +10.057
92.026mph
23 +19L 2 1:41.921
87.527mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Truetom
 Ze insane Penguins
Saleen S7-R GT1 7 +1.455
100.987mph
24 +20L 1 2:31.538
58.869mph
unknown
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Whilst reviewing the reported incidents for this event, I saw quite a number of unreported rear end shunts. Whilst I have chosen to ignore them to reduce my workload in this case, I want to stress that there is very rarely any excuse for driving into the back of another car, especially in a single class race, and that rear endings, along with bad rejoins, are the two offences which are the least likely to have any mitigating circumstances.

You have been warned!


Server replay time: 179s

Locutos simply drivers into the back of Aagramn at the end of the pace lap. The rule for everyone but the polesitter is quite clear: "Each following driver should only accelerate when the driver ahead does."

Luckily Aagramn's car isn't damaged.


Server replay time: 254s

Fozz gets himself into no man's land in cb95amc's blind spot into the Foggy Esses and turns the latter round.

Fozz was good enough to hold his hand up and report this one but unfortunately for him, with no mitigating circumstances the full penalty for a first lap rear ending has to apply.


Server replay time: 267s

Maurice spins in the Fogarty Esses; as he rejoins he tags Greg130 and collects Michael Cooper too. Nobody is badly affected.

Maurice says that he couldn't see Greg which means that either he has GTR set to show less than 24 cars, or that he didn't look.

Since neither Greg nor Oilseal reported this incident I'm going to let it go with just a caution, but I must remind all drivers that it is vital that you stop and assess the safety of any rejoin after a spin or off if you are to avoid making a bad situation worse.


Server replay time: 345s

Fozz attempts to improve on his first lap punt at the Foggy Esses by doing the same to Harv, only from further back this time. "D'oh!"


Server replay time: 355s

cb95amc spins off coming out of Coppice; Oilseal slows to avoid him and Maurice Claessen, who's right behind, tries to take advantage by diving past on the right, but Bombdogs, who has been (I think) hit by the 1FPS bug is stationary on the left side of the track, and Oilseal has to swerve to avoid him, making contact with Maurice. Fortunately neither spin.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 620s

Smoothy spins in the Foggy Esses and collects Mo.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 640s

Greg has a moment coming out of the Foggy Esses and Bombdogs gets past on the run down to Adelaide. Bombdogs then runs a touch wide in the middle of Adelaide; Greg goes for the gap, but tries to use all of the road on the exit, despite not being past Bombdogs - in fact, Greg is well wide of the conventional racing line - and there is contact, shoving Bombdogs off the road.

Greg claimed to be "unsighted" at the time, but the fact is that if you stick your car up the inside of another one, common sense should tell you that it's there and you need to leave them room.


Server replay time: 995s

cb95amc has followed Don1 (wobble) down the Craner Curves and is a fraction too close at the old hairpin, tagging the back of Don and spinning him off.

This clearly wasn't a passing attempt but Don was perfectly in control and the contact is down entirely to cb95 being too close and failing to anticipate that his Lister was almost inevitably going to brake later and corner faster than Don's Viper, so a penalty, albeit a slightly reduced one, is required.

  • cb95amcpenalty — rear ending wobble — 1 place lost


Server replay time: 1155s

Jamera uses the wrong part of the inside curb in McLeans and spins. Fozz cannot avoid him; Smoothy, behind Fozz, very sensibly slows down to avoid making it a threesome.

  • Racing incident

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« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2005, 10:05:12 AM +0100 »

Not a problem Smiley

Everyone else in front of me avoided you, there was only 1 or 2 people behind me after starting dead last after my spin on Warmup Lap  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #31 on: August 11, 2005, 10:34:10 AM +0100 »

Well pretty good race last night. Quali went crap. Generally i find 15 minutes just to hectic but all the best seem to cope OK so I will just have to get use to it.  Did not panic for race and gradually gained places, very few seemed to result from bugs etc which is pleasing. Then had great battle with FlyBri for 4 or five laps. I was clearly later on the brakes than him, your 550 looked like a beast m8, but he took an aggressive defensive line (is that possible?) and made it very difficult to pass. Mixed emotions when he ran wide as I was enjoying scrap so much but slipped through and that was end of excitement as I had quite 10 or so laps to finish.

p.s. Greg, can you please check championship table again. I am going to make the most of being above you while I can.
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« Reply #32 on: August 11, 2005, 11:57:23 AM +0100 »


p.s. Greg, can you please check championship table again. I am going to make the most of being above you while I can.

We are talking footy here ?
Wolves are 7th with 4 points.
Reading are 8th with 3 points.
As for the gtr table, well you have a massive 42 point lead on me mate, that will take some clawing back.
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« Reply #33 on: August 11, 2005, 01:36:29 PM +0100 »

Were you in a Saleen? There was a saleen with uberlag on L1 - I ploughed right through it with no damage!

Yes, I was in yellow Saleen. As far as I can tell I didn't cause a massive incident.  Smiley That's really strange 'cause I joined a public race and had no problems whatsoever. #&*#! Another race went by!  Huh

Yeah I remember you being between Macleans and Coppice, stopped on track.  Luckily I saw you very early, after last week, and I think Jon in front did too.  Bloody game... Roll Eyes
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« Reply #34 on: August 11, 2005, 03:48:12 PM +0100 »

Twas football Greg. I follow the Argyle not Reading. We are on 4 as well but have scored more goals than you. Difference is, you are nailed on for at least the playoffs whereas I am looking forward to a long hard season. Though I am looking forward to Southampton away and I am going to wolves on new years eve.

I will need those 42 points before Brno, your not bad there Wink
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« Reply #35 on: August 11, 2005, 04:33:42 PM +0100 »

Twas football Greg. I follow the Argyle not Reading. We are on 4 as well but have scored more goals than you. Difference is, you are nailed on for at least the playoffs whereas I am looking forward to a long hard season. Though I am looking forward to Southampton away and I am going to wolves on new years eve. Hope I don't suffer the typical Argyle mid season slump and stay above you in gt league  Grin, I think we will be pretty close by the end.

Hee hee, my Dad and brother are season ticket holders at the Molineux.

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« Reply #36 on: August 11, 2005, 06:45:03 PM +0100 »

Twas football Greg. I follow the Argyle not Reading. We are on 4 as well but have scored more goals than you. Difference is, you are nailed on for at least the playoffs whereas I am looking forward to a long hard season. Though I am looking forward to Southampton away and I am going to wolves on new years eve.

I will need those 42 points before Brno, your not bad there Wink

Sorry mate for some reason I thought you were a reading man.  As for gtr, well its a long way to the finish, wish I had been there for the barc race.  There was more than an element of luck in the Brno win, besides its one of my fav's so I expected to be in the points there.  Should develop into a competitive season.
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« Reply #37 on: August 11, 2005, 07:42:10 PM +0100 »


Somehow over the next 10 mins I crawl back up to 9th, then for the 3rd race running the car in front for some unknown reason hands me an extra place, thanks.
So finished 8th in the end, bloody amazing really considering all the events of the race.
Grats to the podium, great times guys.


That was me that handed you 8th.  I am absolutely gutted.  After qualifying about 18th, I ran a good race and looked after my tyres.  I passed a few guys early on then in the last third of the race applied pressure when the guys in front were obviously struggling with their tyres.  Anyway when I crossed the line I noticed that there was no time left in the race so I assumed that that was me finished, but just to make certain I kept going on that lap, as I came around the last corner I thought oh well that is fine I can pull into the pits only to escape and see that I was listed as DNF -arghhh!!!!  To compound matters I was really pushing on the last couple of laps and had got the gap down from 6 sec to 3 secs to 7th and I am sure that I probably could been very close if I had just done the last lap.
Oh well as they always say in CART and NASCAR - "We'll have another go next week"!
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« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2005, 08:22:15 AM +0100 »

Well pretty good race last night. Quali went crap. Generally i find 15 minutes just to hectic but all the best seem to cope OK so I will just have to get use to it.  Did not panic for race and gradually gained places, very few seemed to result from bugs etc which is pleasing. Then had great battle with FlyBri for 4 or five laps. I was clearly later on the brakes than him, your 550 looked like a beast m8, but he took an aggressive defensive line (is that possible?) and made it very difficult to pass. Mixed emotions when he ran wide as I was enjoying scrap so much but slipped through and that was end of excitement as I had quite 10 or so laps to finish.

p.s. Greg, can you please check championship table again. I am going to make the most of being above you while I can.

Never been fast at Donnington, a track i tend to keep away from lol. Had been practicing through the week, but i never managed to break the 1.30 barrier  Shocked but in qualifing i managed a 1.28.5 which i was chuffed about and for a moment i thought i might be able to mix it with the big boys in the race....!!  Roll Eyes

But my race wasnt pretty as Ginsters has already pointed out, i gambled on a untried risky set up to try and stop tyres from overheating (lol didnt work). Started 12th off grid, a few cars went off and got up to 9th with ginster a few secs behind, he found his rhythem and started to put pressure on, i was running in the 1.31's and ginster stayed within a sec of me for those 4 or 5 laps. like he mentioned i was struggling under braking (turned braked pressure down to 85% to stop lock ups), and had a couple of big moments braking for the last corner, you would have thought i would have learnt but again coming into last corner the back end came out slightly and pushed me car half on grass so i had to come off brakes to avoid a spin and took the scenic route around the last corner!!

That was that, Ginster then showed his true pace and sped off into the distance at over 1-2 secs a lap. Enjoyed that ginster while it lasted but you were too quick to hold off, i was overdriving the car (watched the replay and my car was constantly sideways or sliding  Embarrassed) to try and keep a gap but the more i was overdriving the more my tyres cooked. Finished 7th in the end which wasnt too bad........

From the replays the car to have was the Lister, looked a solid car for the donigton track unlike MY ferrari!!
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« Reply #39 on: August 12, 2005, 12:13:44 PM +0100 »

From the replays the car to have was the Lister, looked a solid car for the donigton track unlike MY ferrari!!

Yes, but why be like everyone else? Standout from the Lister crowd.
If both NGT and GT sprints carry on as they are Season 2 might need some incentives to take other cars.
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« Reply #40 on: August 12, 2005, 02:47:58 PM +0100 »

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If both NGT and GT sprints carry on as they are Season 2 might need some incentives to take other cars.

[To clarify, I'm assuming you are referring to a lack of variety in car choice  Wink]

Do you have any thoughts on how that might work?

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« Reply #41 on: August 12, 2005, 03:04:40 PM +0100 »

From the replays the car to have was the Lister, looked a solid car for the donigton track unlike MY ferrari!!

Yes, but why be like everyone else? Standout from the Lister crowd.
If both NGT and GT sprints carry on as they are Season 2 might need some incentives to take other cars.

I would prefer to see a "you must take the whole car for the whole season". Yes everyone may choose the Lister, but at least the F550 and Viper(?) etc will have a big atvantage at Monza as they have more powerful engines.

The NGT is a different matter, but there are only 2 competitive cars in that class, with the Bi-T being a very outside possibility, so its hardly surprising... There's gonna be loads of 911's and F360's. But we are using different tires and we are all setting up our own cars, so the are going to be stronger/weaker at specific turns etc.
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« Reply #42 on: August 12, 2005, 03:27:21 PM +0100 »

I agree with Fozz - always wanted to see a 'one car all season' restriction to make drivers take the rough with the smooth. Letting people cherry pick the best car for each track was always likely to encourage grids with a lot of the same car IMO. Having said that, the Lister is a good all-rounder and would be an attractive choice for the whole season.

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« Reply #43 on: August 12, 2005, 03:54:23 PM +0100 »

always wanted to see a 'one car all season'

And some of us are driving one car all season Wink John Guest sponsered 911 here all the way Cheesy
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« Reply #44 on: August 12, 2005, 04:29:00 PM +0100 »

I will be using Lister all season. Its the only car I can handle.

I know more power will be crucial at Monza but swapping to suit tracks should be frowned upon. Its just not cricket (christ I sound like one of those legend boys).
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