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April 06, 2008, 09:52:32 PM +0100 - Kyalami (1961-67) - UKGPL Season 15 (2008) Division 1
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Hristo Itchov
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 2 +0.332
114.764mph
1 49:52.955
113.200mph
37 1:19.910
114.589mph
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Lorenzo Galluzzi
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
BRM P115 F1 1967 3 +0.603
114.376mph
2 +19.682
112.460mph
37 1:20.802
113.324mph
Goodyear  
Brendan
 The Coopermen
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 4 +0.961
113.867mph
3 +43.473
111.579mph
37 1:20.965
113.096mph
Firestone  
Kruger Enge
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 7 +1.473
113.146mph
4 +55.456
111.141mph
37 1:21.189
112.784mph
Firestone  
Ken Murray
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
BRM P115 F1 1967 5 +1.432
113.204mph
5 +1:06.139
110.752mph
37 1:21.130
112.866mph
Goodyear  
Mike Wrightson
 rF Gentlemens Racing Club
Honda RA300 F1 1967 6 +1.461
113.163mph
6 +1:08.081
110.682mph
37 1:21.276
112.663mph
Firestone  
Glyn
 VT Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 1 1:19.456
115.244mph
7 +1L
109.695mph
36 1:19.827
114.708mph
Firestone  
EvilClive
 
Honda RA300 F1 1967 10 +2.200
112.139mph
8 +19.546
108.986mph
36 1:21.789
111.956mph
Firestone  
Steven Foster
 The Coopermen
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 9 +2.129
112.236mph
9 +20.818
108.940mph
36 1:22.203
111.393mph
Firestone  
Derek Howe
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 13 +3.379
110.543mph
10 +1:01.096
107.509mph
36 1:22.890
110.469mph
Goodyear  
Bully
 Crash 'N' Burn Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 11 +2.270
112.043mph
11 +22L
107.267mph
15 1:22.699
110.725mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 8 +1.877
112.584mph
12 +32L
103.006mph
5 1:22.900
110.456mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Burtoner
 The Coopermen
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 12 +3.012
111.035mph
13 DNS ---
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Firestone  
akamal
 The Coopermen
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 14 ---
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Goodyear  
1 UKGPL
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 14 15 ---
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Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

Summary

Despite claiming pole in the Ferrari, Neil trailed Hristo into Crowthorne with Lorenzo, in another BRM, close behind in third. Neil spent a couple of frustrating laps trying to get past the BRM but the extra pace he had shown in practice wasn’t enough to present him with a clear passing opportunity. With the prospect of a long pit stop looming, Neil needed to push hard to get by quickly to stand any chance of a win. Unfortunately for Neil this resulted in him spinning off at Crowthorne on lap three and consequently loosing touch with the leaders.

Hristo drove on majestically to claim victory with Lorenzo settling for second place and a decent points tally. Brendan drove a fast consistent pace in his Cooper, it wasn’t enough to catch the BRMs but he did net a well-deserved third place.

Overall the driving standards in the race was very high with everybody cognizant of the prospect of realistic damage under PRO rules. Unfortunately warp is no respecter of PRO rules and it was a factor in several incidents. Drivers are reminded that they should drive with the possibility of warp in mind and try to minimize the risk of warp to themselves and other drivers. A description of warp and how to reduce the possibility of it occurring is on the rules pages (http://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/rules/warp).


Server replay time: 0h01m06s

Lap 1 Turn 1

After a slow start, Brendan overtakes Kruger on the inside at Crowthorne. He clips the kerb unsettling the car, nevertheless he keeps close to the inside. Ken is on the outside and has left a good cars width between himself and the kerb. As Brendan and Ken round Crowthorne, warp contact is made and Ken is sent spinning off the track.

Although this was an ambitious move by Brendan, he had the skill to pull it off and keep tight to the inside. The warp contact was probably exacerbated by the extra lateral movement cause by Brendan clipping the kerb. Ken knew he was vulnerable to warp and was careful to keep wide but unfortunately not wide enough in this case.

Warp related

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h04m01s

Lap 3 Turn 1

Bully experiences some understeer which suddenly snaps back to oversteer. This throws him to the outside of the track just as Syd is trying an opportunistic pass. Contact is made.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h05m25s

Lap 4 Turn 1

Syd overtakes Steven on the inside, warp contact sends Steven off.

Warp related

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h23m34s

Lap 17 Pit Lane

Steven pulls in for a pit stop and picks the first stall. Clive is following behind and is caught out by Steven’s penchant for the traditional stall for the world champion. Clive brakes hard but minor rear-end contact is made.

Nobody can be apportioned blame here. Clearly both drivers were at risk of damaging their cars, neither drove recklessly it was simply the consequence of a tight pit lane entry. Drivers are advised to be careful when making pit stops and in this case it would have been safer for Steven to have come to rest a little further down the pit lane but to try to devise a hard and fast rule here would be counter productive.

  • Racing incident

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« on: March 31, 2008, 10:09:19 PM +0100 »

UKGPL Season 15 Division 1 - Round 1 - Kyalami - Apr 6

The first round of the Season 15 Div 1 championship is at Kyalami.  Take it easy on the first lap especially at Crowthorne Corner, Barbeque Bend and the Jukskei Sweep.  Please make sure you have the pitwall in place.  Anyone caught miraculously driving through the pit wall on the server replay will be disqualified.  Don't forget, incident reports should be entered on the SRou system following the link at the bottom of the results table when it appears.  Race details below.

Div 1 Season 15 Round 1 is this Sunday at 9:00 p.m. London UK time (8:00 p.m. GMT).
Please be in VROC UKGPL chatroom passworded Savage by 8:55 p.m.
VROC and Race passwords: see above

Server 1.ukgpl
IP address  194.105.176.22

Race date = 06-04-2008
Track = Kyalami 1967
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = PRO
Qually time = 30 minutes.
Race length = 50 minutes (37 laps)

Password: see above
Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page

Division 1
Single Stop Time
   
Double Stop Time
BRM
No Stop
   
N/A
Cooper
Stop and Go
   
N/A
Honda
1
   
N/A
Brabham
20
   
N/A
Ferrari
34
   
12
Eagle
39
   
15
Lotus
50
   
20

 First Pit Window is: 28 (to go) to 18 (to go)
 Second Pit Window is: 26 (to go) to 9 (to go)
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« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2008, 05:41:10 PM +0100 »

I'll be there in case there is room for me Smiley  Hoping to give the Honda another run out.
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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2008, 08:59:11 AM +0100 »

I'm banging away here trying to get the BRM negative. I just seem to be getting slower the more I try. I'll give it a go tonight and see if I can manage to fluke a lap somewhere in the proceedings.
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« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2008, 11:59:00 PM +0100 »

Finished again!  After 37 laps on Pro, that feels like victory Cheesy

With the Aliens in BRM's ahead of me, I was realistically looking at a 5th or 6th place finish, and in the end it was 6th.

An OK start this time and held my place into T1, past a spinning Ken and nipped past Kruger!  He then shredded my nerves over the next 2 laps whilst the Honda was going through it's uncooperative first few laps, and he repassed me into T1.

Once the Honda was warmed up, I began to ease away from Clive, but could make no impression on Kruger and plugged away as Glyn caught and passed me recovering from his spin and then I discovered that Ken was only 8 seconds back  Shocked  I was gonna need 15 if I was going to get out of my pitstop ahead of him, pushed hard but couldn't extend the gap and got my stop over with.  Came out 4 seconds behind him and as the car got lighter, I was gaining  Grin  I trimmed off a couple of seconds, but with 2 laps to go I went for 4th gear and put the damn thing into 2nd  Shocked I was so lucky not to blow it up there and then, eased off and cruised the last laps.  The perils of having a shifter  Roll Eyes

Good race and congrats to the podium!
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« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2008, 04:01:51 AM +0100 »

Nice report, Mike, grats. Smiley

I had a rather uneventful race due to a great handling car and an out of control Neil early on.  Cheesy
Qualifying went well and I managed to snatch 1st on the start, but on the next lap he got my slipstream but opted to stay behind going towards T1. The thought that Neil was going too fast ran through my mind for a moment, so I delayed my braking a bit to give him some space and it proved to be decisive - he went off, just missing my rear. Lucky one, for me anyway, I just managed to keep it on the outside edge there and continued on. Either Lorenzo wasn't risking too much or my setup was very consistant, but I could manage to keep the gap back to him and eventually extend it. Not many moments with backmarkers, though I'd like to mention that it's really safer if you don't change lines to let us through but rather keep your own and maybe ease off a bit, at least when it's before a corner or on a straight. Anyway, in the end I saw Neil's Ferrari ahead and I really wanted to lap him.  angel So I pushed very hard, taking unnecessery risks in a way, but I had the belief that my "little" BRM would hold.  Wink He was quite fast though and only an off on his behalf made it possible. Grats all finishers!  Cool
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« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2008, 09:08:14 AM +0100 »

I had a frustratingly bizarre false start to my first Division 1 race. Joining through VROC I found myself at the unfamiliar controls of a Brabham, rather than my (t)rusty Cooper. Hmm, must be going mad in my old age.
So quit, and rejoined making doubly sure I'd selected Coventry as my car:  still Brabham. Odd, quit again and had GEM+ rebuild all the exe's, and rejoined to find... a Brabham. Hmmm, tried connecting directly without using VROC and checking the Player Info screen to be sure: Brabham. Getting fed up now, I tried joined the ukGPLpractice server through Igor, and got a Cooper! So, gave it one more try and sure enough still got a bloody Brabham!

Still, with less than ten minutes of qually left I took it out for an cautious exploratory lap. Now, to say that I'm not fond of the Brabham would be a bit of an understatement, and I've never driven it with more than a dozen or so laps of fuel on board. That, combined with my general lack of talent at Kyalami, resulted in me binning it half way round the lap. Three times in a row. At which point I decided that discretion was the better part of valour and abandoned the race. At best it'd have been embarrassing, and more likely I'd have ended up ruining someone else's run.

So, hopefully I'll make my Div1 debut at the next race, assuming my computer decides to co-operate!

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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2008, 10:19:47 AM +0100 »

I had a frustratingly bizarre false start to my first Division 1 race. Joining through VROC I found myself at the unfamiliar controls of a Brabham, rather than my (t)rusty Cooper. Hmm, must be going mad in my old age.
So quit, and rejoined making doubly sure I'd selected Coventry as my car:  still Brabham. Odd, quit again and had GEM+ rebuild all the exe's, and rejoined to find... a Brabham. Hmmm, tried connecting directly without using VROC and checking the Player Info screen to be sure: Brabham. Getting fed up now, I tried joined the ukGPLpractice server through Igor, and got a Cooper! So, gave it one more try and sure enough still got a bloody Brabham!

Still, with less than ten minutes of qually left I took it out for an cautious exploratory lap. Now, to say that I'm not fond of the Brabham would be a bit of an understatement, and I've never driven it with more than a dozen or so laps of fuel on board. That, combined with my general lack of talent at Kyalami, resulted in me binning it half way round the lap. Three times in a row. At which point I decided that discretion was the better part of valour and abandoned the race. At best it'd have been embarrassing, and more likely I'd have ended up ruining someone else's run.

So, hopefully I'll make my Div1 debut at the next race, assuming my computer decides to co-operate!

cheers,
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Just to make a comment akamal. VROC uses gpl.exe while iGor uses gplc.exe, so that might point to where the problem lies.

Did you join VROC from GEM? I prefer not to do that unless forced to when running Mod races on VROC. When you join VROC from GEM it does some renaming of exe's to overcome the limitation of VROC only to recognise gpl.exe (of course mods weren't invented when VROC was made).

When joining a 67 race from VROC I'd normally not go through GEM.
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« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2008, 10:49:43 AM +0100 »

oh well just like Massa 2 races and 0 pts and even finishes, pretty annoyed all down to joining the grid for race my graphics are all screwed up,installed latest drivers, omega and nvidia drivers, obivously still not working, just what to do....
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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2008, 10:53:06 AM +0100 »

Quite happy with the result actually. I had a nice head to head battle with Brendan, this time in identical chassis. It was an interesting shoutout, one Brendan has won fair and square.

I just couldn't get the lap right in qualifying, had all the sectors but never in the same lap. Pribluda showed a flattering 1.20.4 but I even couldn't net a 1.20.8 lap that I had driven just before the race.

Got a good start, better than Brendan in fact and I was slipstreaming Ken down the hill and I anaged to go on the inside, leaving a car width to Brendan if he had chosen to go for it - which he did Smiley Only later when I checked the replay I noticed that it was actually less than car width but somehow Brendan managed to squeeze his Cooper while I had to back off because Ken held better line into T1. Brendan then went into corner side by side with Ken and even though they both held their lines cleanly, there was an unfortunate warp moment between them. I had to slow down to avoid hitting Ken so I got passed by Mike.

We had an interesting battle for next two laps but a mistake into last corner, allowed me to get really close and slipstream accross S/F line and outbrake the heavy Honda.

Meanwhile, Brendan made a 2-3 seconds gap and I was off to chase him. In first part, we lapped at very similar pace and there were no changes however, I think I overdrove the poor thing and left tyres started to melt so I started sliping back trying to find different kind of rhythm.

Brendan stopped three laps before pit window so I went for it all on those three laps trying desperatelly to make some grounds thinking about the possibility that he may run into traffic.

Once I made my stop, the gap seemed to have remained the same. I tried to push from there on but had an oversteery moment in last corner. As Brundle said about Massa's trip up: the ambition got the better of adhesion Smiley

It looked as though it will be a quiet last third but then I realised Ken was up to something and after my spin, he was 5 seconds behind so I upped my pace and wanted to keep the gap that way.

So, having in mind the Alien vs. Predator BRM fight at the front and an excellent Brendan in third, I can't be unhappy about the result.

Grats to Hristo, Lorenzo and Brendan. Looking forward to Spa
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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2008, 12:28:03 PM +0100 »

A decent race yesterday....
Qualification was fine, i did my pb  w00t but it wasn't enough to stay ahead of Hristo and Neil.... no
A few laps after the start i realized that Hristo was definitely faster and gave up a bit to be sure to gain 41 points punk
Grats to Hristo on your win and to Brendan on a well deserved 3rd place....
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« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2008, 01:48:05 PM +0100 »

Enjoyed that one, which I haven't done for a while in D1 (trying too hard last season....). Qualified 9th, finished 9th, can't say fairer than that.

Some excitement at the start as Evil's front wheel appears. I quicky realise he doesn't know I'm there, and move out of the way (Honda drivers, pah  Wink). Scooped a few places from the incidents in the opening laps, then lost them when Syd and I come together at T1 (I decided not to resist the pass, tried to keep to the outside line but got a little sideways on entry, then I think he hit the kerb and then into me - warp assisted). I didn't suffer any fatal damage and carried on.

Managed to catch Evil later when he spun, then the rest of the race was me vs. him for 8th/9th. Comedy moment as I decided to pit when he closes me down, don't realise he spots my plan (I wanted to use the 1 sec pit stop advantage to get some clear air from that engine) and follows me in. I pull up at the first stall (with no idea he's still behind....focus on that armco, FOCUS!) but Evil's right behind and taps me on the rear. I ended up with more clear air, but my rear suspension was a bit bent (not noticable, but GPLRA says "severe damage" - I guess I was lucky).

I then spend the rest of the race trying to preserve the engine, and scurrying out of the way of Alien BRMS. Evil then manages to close me down with 2 laps to go, gets the draft and then a superb pass around the outside of T1 for a well deserved 8th.

Shame there wasn't more folk - Easter hols perhaps. I like Spa, but I think I'll be lucky to get into the top 10 in the Coop.
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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2008, 02:01:39 PM +0100 »

I had a solid start, I think I gained a place or two on the way to t1. But then someone was off between t1 and t2, I had to back off, and lost a few positions. Overtook Steven and was closing down on Chris I think (blue brabham), but then he lost it between t1 and t2 and swiped me off. Went back to almost last. At this point frustration was starting to set in. As I was in a brabham I couldn't really afford any mistakes, and here I was running almost last. Caught up  with Steven again. I was on the inside, thought I started braking early enough. I don't know, maybe I locked the wheels, or touched a kerb, don't remember, but I couldn't keep on the inside and pushed Steven off. Sorry about that. I tried to slow down and wait until you repass, but messed that up as well, and spun out just after t2. At his point I was considering retiring, but then the engine mercifully let go and I was sparred more frustration. Bring on Spa.
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« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2008, 02:52:51 PM +0100 »

Had a decent qually with a 1:20.4, just a few 100ths off my PB.

The start was a different story, I bogged down off the line and got overtaken by Kruger and Ken.  I managed to brake later than Kruger and squeezed down the inside and although the replay shows that our wheels touched slightly no harm was done.  On the exit of T1, I tried to keep my distance from Ken but it looks as if warp reared it's ugly head and unfortunately he got pushed off to the outside.  Sorry Ken. Embarrassed

I was now in 4th and after Neil had chucked his Fezza I was up to 3rd.  Over the next few laps I managed to keep within 2-3 seconds of Lorenzo, and the same back to Kruger.  Gradually the gap to Lorenzo widened and I managed to pull away ever so slightly from Kruger.  After the pitstop the gap was around six seconds and this widened to around 10-11 as the race wore on.

Although this seemed a comfortable enough gap, I couldn't relax as I knew that one mistake and Kruger would be through.  Anyway, managed to keep it in one piece and was delighted to see the chequered flag.

Grats to all who finished and especially to Hristo and Lorenzo who made the rest of us look like mere mortals. Smiley

See you at Spa.
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« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2008, 03:07:27 PM +0100 »

I only came across one backmarker in a BRM, which worried me as I had to pass him into T1, which is my least favourite corner in GPL to overtake at.  I was a bit further back than I would have liked, but tried to ease up alongside under brakes and made it stay on the inside (which is where I usually go wrong).  Thankyou that man for your good awareness Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2008, 05:17:58 PM +0100 »

sorry for missing the race guys. I was waiting an hour earlier for the race, then Team Canada was missing a driver for the last race of round 1 for the gpl world cup. I thought I just do a few laps and retire so I could race in ukgpl. But the race turned out being fun so I stuck with it. Smiley

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