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April 15, 2008, 09:42:16 PM +0100 - Spa (GPL) - UKGPL Season 15 (2008) Historic
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Syd Drake
 Drake Racing
Lotus 43 (BRM) F1 1966 2 +0.655
149.063mph
1 32:09.679
147.100mph
9 3:32.091
148.708mph
Firestone  
Bully
 Crash 'N' Burn Racing
Honda RA273 F1 1966 8 +2.937
147.472mph
2 +24.356
145.267mph
9 3:33.653
147.620mph
Goodyear  
Clive Loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lotus 43 (BRM) F1 1966 3 +0.682
149.044mph
3 +36.647
144.359mph
9 3:33.029
148.053mph
Firestone  
Hristo Itchov
 
McLaren M2B (Ford) F1 1966 1 3:30.931
149.525mph
4 (+1) +41.656
143.992mph
9 3:30.504
149.829mph
Firestone  
Lorenzo Galluzzi
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
McLaren M2B (Ford) F1 1966 4 +1.422
148.524mph
5 +45.244
143.730mph
9 3:30.299
149.975mph
Firestone  
MikeBeattie
 Drake Racing
Lotus 33 (BRM) F1 1966 9 +3.089
147.367mph
6 +57.510
142.843mph
9 3:34.335
147.151mph
Firestone  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 16 7 +1:44.896
139.516mph
9 3:39.315
143.809mph
Goodyear  
Phil Thornton
 Crash 'N' Burn Racing
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 12 +5.218
145.916mph
8 +1:46.069
139.436mph
9 3:36.499
145.680mph
Goodyear  
Derek Howe
 
BRM P261 (1966) F1 1966 11 +4.656
146.296mph
9 +4L
144.582mph
5 3:35.449
146.390mph
accident
Goodyear  
Tim Robey
 
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 14 +6.371
145.142mph
10 +2:39.856
126.100mph
5 3:58.550
132.214mph
Disco
Firestone  
Burtoner
 The Coopermen
Cooper T81 (Maserati) F1 1966 7 +2.451
147.808mph
11 (+1) +6L
133.371mph
3 3:47.298
138.759mph
Disco
Firestone  
Kruger Enge
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT11 (BRM V8) F1 1966 5 +1.906
148.186mph
12 +7L
136.603mph
2 3:41.652
142.293mph
suspension
Goodyear  
akamal
 The Coopermen
Honda RA273 F1 1966 6 +2.391
147.849mph
13 +9L
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accident
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 
Brabham BT11 (BRM V8) F1 1966 10 +3.583
147.028mph
14
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0 ---
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Disco
Goodyear  
Glyn
 VT Racing
Eagle T1F (Climax) F1 1966 13 +5.899
145.457mph
DNS ---
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Goodyear  
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Lotus 43 (BRM) F1 1966 15 ---
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Firestone  

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Server replay time: 0h02m50s

Lap 1 Masta
Clive Loynes and Lorenzo Galluzzi lose control in the middle of Masta almost like it was synchronized. Lorenzo ends up stuck in the fence, but he wasn't touched by another car at any point. He reset but did not perform a SnG. Everybody else behind was caught in Clive's accident, his car ending up partially on the track. So everybody else is entitled to a no-fault S+R.


Server replay time: 0h08m08s

Lap 2 La Source
Mike Beattie gets along side Robert Burton as they're braking for the last turn, but R. Burton moves over and a side-by-side contact is made spinning them both out of control.


Server replay time: 0h08m08s

After the previous incident R. Burton resets, but doesn't stop in the pits.


Server replay time: 0h32m36s

Lap 9 Blanchimont
C. Bull get along side Hristo Itchov. As they arrive at Blanchimont, Hristo brakes much later and takes a normal racing line essentially cutting into Chris's path and causing them to collide.


Server replay time: 0h32m36s

After the previous incident Hristo need a S+R, but doesn't stop in the pits before the end of the race.

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« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2008, 02:11:26 PM +0100 »

Grats Syd - you drove a good race.

Personally, I've had enough of it. The last couple of seasons in Div2 have been alot of fun with plenty of gentlemanly driving. But, whether it is being moaned at for getting in the way of someone's super-hot qualifying lap, or getting nerfed off the track by people who drive as if I have no right to be there, it isn't fun anymore.

Derek, i don't want to judge our "clash", the only thing i want to say is that i'm sorry about that.In every race i try to drive gentlemanly but sometimes i can do mistakes...
Hope to see you next race!
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« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2008, 06:32:53 PM +0100 »

Well, after the fuel disaster on sunday this one felt good. I thought I had the pole in the bag, but I guess Hristo found somebody to draft right at the end of practice and stole it away. At the start I got off the grid well and was first by the time we reached Eau Rouge. Then right after Masta on lap 1 I saw the green flag, and I'm thinking, aha everyone has crashed in the Big One, and now I have a solid advantage. Sure enough I throw it away at the very next corner, Stavelot, going wide, and barely managing not to crash the car. Hristo and Chris got by. I knew I had good top speed, so I was careful and patient, and overtook Chris on the straight after La Carriere. Then I quickly caught up with Hristo. Closed up a few time, but didn't want to cause an accident, and backed off. In the end I got him at the same place as Chris. For the next lap Hristo was hounding me, closing right up on my tail for every turn with any serious braking. But then he made a mistake somewhere, and I was left alone, with Chris over 10 seconds back in 2nd. Now it was a matter of keeping my concentration up. And I still tried to throw it away. On lap 6, on the entrance to Masta, I tried to cut too much on the left, clipped the hill, which threw me into the railing. Luckily this is 66 cars. With 67 I think I would have lost it and crashed. But here I slammed on the brakes, and somehow slowed the car down without losing control before it hit the house on the exit. After that I took masta very carefully on every remaining lap. There were no more hairy moments for the rest of the race and I won for the first time in a while.
Congrats to Lorenzo and Chris too, for their podium finishes.
Derek, don't give up.
That's what moderation is for, to review races and punish those that don't adhere to gentlemanly driving standards.
But it does seem like a good time to remind everyone that you don't win the race on the first lap. This is now 2 races, and two big accidents on the opening lap. Remember also that any penalty for first lap incidents caries an extra place.

Lol, grats, Syd, but you should observe better what's happening around you. No, nobody gave me slipstream in qualifying. No, I didn't make a mistake, your rear wheels sent me into the bushes at Stavelot. Wink
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« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2008, 06:49:11 PM +0100 »

Well, then it was as usual a very impressive time and almost a wr. As for the incident I would strongly disagree. Below is a picture from a moment when your car is pushed to the left and off the track. As you can see I'm all the way on the right, where I stayed while getting out of the corner, driving in a very predictable manner. You on the other hand are driving too close to me (as per recommended driver behaviour) and as a result you're sent off by warp. There's no visible contact on my client replay.

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« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2008, 08:58:17 PM +0100 »

It's the server replay that dictates whether it was warp contact or not.  If there is no contact on the server replay then it is warp. 

On the exit of the corner it is always the following driver who is vulnerable.  Full explanation here.
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« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2008, 07:31:20 AM +0100 »

Preliminary results are up.
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« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2008, 10:44:55 AM +0100 »

guys im bit lost where i can get the replays, i wouldnt mind a replay of Kyalami div1, Kyalami clubmans please. I looked at the replay links but dont see them there.

As for my race all i can remember till i get replay was i somehow made up to 5th on 1st lap kept it there for 3 laps till i had the big guys catching me behind, and i know i was slowing them just keeping my position till some tried to overtake me at the last corner. I then gave up i think cos i was way off.
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« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2008, 12:21:42 PM +0100 »

guys im bit lost where i can get the replays, i wouldnt mind a replay of Kyalami div1, Kyalami clubmans please. I looked at the replay links but dont

Clubmans replays are here: http://www.neurology-crew.com/gplserver
D1 replays are here: http://replays.cap35.net/sorted
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« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2008, 12:42:02 PM +0100 »

And historic replays are on that same site with clubmans.
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« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2008, 05:04:00 PM +0100 »

Well, then it was as usual a very impressive time and almost a wr. As for the incident I would strongly disagree. Below is a picture from a moment when your car is pushed to the left and off the track. As you can see I'm all the way on the right, where I stayed while getting out of the corner, driving in a very predictable manner. You on the other hand are driving too close to me (as per recommended driver behaviour) and as a result you're sent off by warp. There's no visible contact on my client replay.



Don't misunderstand me, Syd, I'm not blaming you for it. It was warp contact. I should've indeed left more room to cope with the lag. Just saying that it was that contact which sent me off. Smiley
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« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2008, 08:04:23 PM +0100 »

Oh dear!

I really didn’t realise how much mayhem I had caused at Masta on lap one but have just looked at the replay.

I was trying to be so careful as well.  Sad  sackcloth and ashes time

Syd was in front and I was second.  I thought that I had Hristo all over my gearbox but it turned out to be Lorenzo.  My game plan was to let Syd tow me away from the nasty McLarens but being extra cautious into Masta I missed my turn-in.  I must have lifted a bit and that brought the heavy end of the L43 into play and it had designs on getting in front.  I tried to control the bounce off the Armco but was thrown across the track to the other side.  Again I tried to hold it straight but again the heavy end had other ideas. 

I ended up going back across the track and hitting the fence over there as well.

When I finally came to rest I tried the engine to see if all was still working and then just sat there, with my nose hanging over the track, and hoped all would miss me.  Unfortunately Phil just clipped my nose and sent me back off to the fence, where I was able to make a turn on the grass and rejoin in last spot.

Apologies to all that were involved.
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« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2008, 02:42:15 PM +0100 »

Way to represent Bully. Very nice. Keep on charging. I hope to make my first appearance in D! on Sunday but am struggling with car selection....just can't bring myself to take the ...the...C..oo..per.

Grats Mate,

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« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2008, 05:36:48 PM +0100 »

Hi all, I had a great race here. I managed to avoid the flying wreckage coming at me not far after the start! To my surprise I was up to 3rd place Smiley I stayed in 3rd for a while and even sneaked up into second place as I remember! It wasnt long before I had Hristo behind me in the macca giving it his all! He got past me eventually. Had some great racing there, I was trying to be on my best behaviour! Then on the last lap coming up to Blanchimont I was on the inside and Hristo was on the line. I should have backed off but I didnt and as we approached the apex I knocked Hristo right off. Doh! Really sorry about that!

Well see you all soon Smiley

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