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  • Endurance D2 S1R3 - Enna: August 21, 2005
August 21, 2005, 09:38:12 PM +0100 - Enna - UKGTR GTR1 Endurance Season 1 Division 2
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Zacari
 
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 1 1:30.725
122.461mph
1 54:03.307
113.045mph
33 1:33.725
118.541mph
Pirelli  
greg130
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 3 +0.898
121.261mph
2 (+1) +57.215
111.085mph
33 1:33.503
118.822mph
Michelin  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Lister Storm GT1 2 +0.215
122.171mph
3 +1:02.437
110.909mph
33 1:34.060
118.119mph
Dunlop  
mo
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 4 +1.002
121.123mph
4 +1L
109.439mph
32 1:33.922
118.292mph
Dunlop  
mclaessen
 Speedworx
Saleen S7-R GT1 5 +3.145
118.358mph
5 +58.915
107.489mph
32 1:34.334
117.776mph
Dunlop  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
SEAT Toledo GT G2 6 +4.595
116.557mph
6 +1:15.356
106.958mph
32 1:37.073
114.453mph
Dunlop  
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 13 +11.237
108.965mph
7 +2L
102.960mph
31 1:43.483
107.363mph
Dunlop  
popabawa
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 11 +10.693
109.549mph
8 +3L
101.176mph
30 1:41.131
109.860mph
Dunlop  
Jamera
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 12 +11.120
109.090mph
9 +3.482
101.070mph
30 1:43.439
107.409mph
Dunlop  
[ZiP]Tyf
 Ze insane Penguins
Porsche 996 GT2 Bi-turbo NGT 10 +9.454
110.904mph
10 +52.168
99.599mph
30 1:41.744
109.198mph
Pirelli  
Glen VW
 Rookie Motorsports
Porsche 996 GT3 Cup G3 11 +8L
83.536mph
25 1:50.542
100.507mph
Pirelli  
Paul968
 Kerb Crawlers
BMW Z3M G3 15 +14.493
105.593mph
12 +10L 23 1:44.625
106.191mph
unknown
Dunlop  
aajay_uk
 
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 9 +6.989
113.702mph
13 +15L 18 1:37.823
113.575mph
unknown
Michelin  
silver53
 Ze insane Penguins
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT GT1 7 +6.167
114.666mph
14 (+2) +29L 4 1:44.114
106.712mph
unknown
Michelin  
Oilseal
 Team Oldie Racing
Saleen S7-R GT1 8 +6.926
113.775mph
15 +32L 1 2:44.206
67.660mph
unknown
Dunlop  
as-here
 
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 14 +12.273
107.869mph
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Dunlop  

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Server replay time: 466s

Gerald (silver53) comes from impossibly far back into the first tyre chicane, taking out Dave Gymer (who fortunately doesn't sustain serious damage).

Gerald was suffering controller problems at the time (pedals acting in reverse), and spun off at the start of the first flying lap. He should really have done the discrete thing at the time and retired, but instead tried to carry on, nearly ruining Dave's race in the process, and coming close to repeating the error with Jamera on the next lap before retiring.

Whilst we're loathe to issue penalties against drivers who are unfortunate enough to suffer these sorts of problems, it is essential that a driver who is experiencing technical difficulties so severe that they are both likely to lead to an accident involving another car , and very unlikely to finish the race, retires.


Server replay time: 1231s

Zacari is coming up to lap [ZiP]Tyf; on the approach to the final corner complex, there is still a fairly large gap between them, but Tyf is very slow through the first chicane, missing the right apex completely, and Zacari, despite braking a little earlier than normal, suddenly finds himself closing on Tyf too fast to avoid him, running into the back of him and spinning him off the road.

Normally, a read ender would be a two place penalty, but there are two mitigating factors here. The first is that Zacari takes a voluntary drive through, albeit very much later in the race when his place was secure, and second, that Tyf was very much slower than other cars in that chicane. I am therefore reducing it to a zero place penalty.

  • Zacaripenalty — rear ending [ZiP]Tyf — 0 places lost


Server replay time: 2490s

Greg has been chasing Ginsters for most of the race, and the pair catch Paul968 in his Z3M in the complex of corners after the start line. Paul is able to let Ginsters through, and Greg tries to follow him through, but despite keeping a tight line through the corner, doesn't leave Paul enough room on the exit and there is some side contact.

Greg should have waited until he could see in his mirrors that Paul was clearly behind before he moved over - it would have cost him no extra time and would have avoided the contact.

No matter how keen you are to keep up with the car ahead, your first duty is to avoid crashing into the car alongside! Normally side contact is a two place penalty, but in this case it was light, and Greg does appear to have been trying to leave Paul room, so I've reduced it to just one place.

  • greg130 (Greg130)penalty — contact with Paul968 — 1 place lost (plus 1 for penalty points)

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR
G2
1:35.320
116.557mph
Simon Gymer
Qualifying
SEAT Toledo GTAugust 21, 2005, 09:38:12 PM +0100
UE1D2
GTR
G2
1:37.073
114.453mph
Simon Gymer
Race
SEAT Toledo GTAugust 21, 2005, 09:38:12 PM +0100
UE1D2
GTR
G3
1:44.625
106.191mph
Paul968
Race
BMW Z3MAugust 21, 2005, 09:38:12 PM +0100
UE1D2
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« Reply #30 on: August 22, 2005, 12:05:26 AM +0100 »

Well what can I say?Huh??
Good Qualiifying time for me, 2nd in class I think, drove an absolutely full on commited race, some fantastic battles with Dave and Pops, though I did end up getting a stop go for cutting the track after a "small" incident (which I won't be reporting because it was just a racing incident)

Might have to report myself for that one then! Cheesy

You'd moved over to let a lapping car by and I wrung my hands (but only mentally - otherwise I'd have crashed! Wink ) and got just ahead before realising that perhaps into the first tyre chicane wasn't really such a clever place to be trying to make up a place when you probably had to stop for fuel and tyres in a few laps. Braked relatively early and hard but left it too late to allow you to get back past - thought you had made it through very slowly, I'm gutted that you had to take to the gravel, even more gutted that the stupid game gave you a completely undesereved S&G for it. Sad When you caught me again a few laps later I made sure I didn't contest your pass into the final set of corners.
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« Reply #31 on: August 22, 2005, 12:12:49 AM +0100 »

Oh, and annoyingly I didn't get a client replay. I've set ReplaySaver to load at startup because I kept forgetting it but when I went to check for the replay, t'wasn't there. ReplaySaver had forgotten my GTR location and wasn't saving anything. :'(
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« Reply #32 on: August 22, 2005, 01:00:25 AM +0100 »

Oh, and annoyingly I didn't get a client replay. I've set ReplaySaver to load at startup because I kept forgetting it but when I went to check for the replay, t'wasn't there. ReplaySaver had forgotten my GTR location and wasn't saving anything. :'(

Bugger I was looking forward to seeing the replay, some great close racing to view.
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« Reply #33 on: August 22, 2005, 04:34:17 AM +0100 »

Bugger I was looking forward to seeing the replay, some great close racing to view.

You still can Wink Server replay is available from the usual source.
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« Reply #34 on: August 22, 2005, 07:05:47 AM +0100 »

Well what can I say?Huh??
Good Qualiifying time for me, 2nd in class I think, drove an absolutely full on commited race, some fantastic battles with Dave and Pops, though I did end up getting a stop go for cutting the track after a "small" incident (which I won't be reporting because it was just a racing incident)

Might have to report myself for that one then! Cheesy

You'd moved over to let a lapping car by and I wrung my hands (but only mentally - otherwise I'd have crashed! Wink ) and got just ahead before realising that perhaps into the first tyre chicane wasn't really such a clever place to be trying to make up a place when you probably had to stop for fuel and tyres in a few laps. Braked relatively early and hard but left it too late to allow you to get back past - thought you had made it through very slowly, I'm gutted that you had to take to the gravel, even more gutted that the stupid game gave you a completely undesereved S&G for it. Sad When you caught me again a few laps later I made sure I didn't contest your pass into the final set of corners.



You know what Dave, I'll have to check the replay, in the heat of battle I may have confused the laps and it might not have been you at all :-)
I'll have a look tonight when I get home and, if it wasn't my appologies, but great battle all the same


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« Reply #35 on: August 22, 2005, 09:04:15 AM +0100 »

Big congrats to Dave for the NGT win, once again masterful strategy wins the day!

Had a brilliant race despite the fact there was only 4 NGT's.

Qualified in NGT 2nd behind Tyf, then spent 8 laps chasing his Bi-T, he was faster on the straights but I was pulling it back through the chicanes. Great stuff. Tyf & I then swapped the lead about 4 times as he kept spinning and re-overtaking me. The last time stuck as I came in to pit after 30 mins.

I was pretty sure Dave wouldn't stop but I thought I might *just* be fast enough. I re-overtook Tyf and Jamera after they pitted and was way down on Dave but closing about 2 seconds a lap, nowhere near fast enough but maybe *just* enough if Dave made a mistake.

So, pushed on a little harder and inevitably went off at the last chicane letting Jamera and Tyf through, luckily Jamera immediately went off and Tyf had to pit for fuel.

I'm feeling a bit lucky to finish in 2nd. It could have been Tyf, Jamera and me in any order.

Top performance by the GT guys, very patient and courteous. I think we're beginning to understand each other now eh?  Wink

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« Reply #36 on: August 22, 2005, 09:16:26 AM +0100 »

Oh, and annoyingly I didn't get a client replay. I've set ReplaySaver to load at startup because I kept forgetting it but when I went to check for the replay, t'wasn't there. ReplaySaver had forgotten my GTR location and wasn't saving anything. :'(

Not sure that was ReplaySaver's fault. I for the first time in ages tried leaving replays on during an online race (as it wasn't an important one for me good opportunity). Didn't get 1 fps bug but when I went to look at the replay it wasn't there, just a 30 second instant replay one.  Angry Angry
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« Reply #37 on: August 22, 2005, 10:42:35 AM +0100 »

You know what Dave, I'll have to check the replay, in the heat of battle I may have confused the laps and it might not have been you at all :-)
I'll have a look tonight when I get home and, if it wasn't my appologies, but great battle all the same

It wasn't - photographic proof later. Cheesy That's a relief - I can now feel proud of my win again. Grin Grin Grin

It was a great battle - you were doing really well to hold enough of a gap so I had no chance to overtake until Zacari lapped you. Once I was past you really got the bit between your teeth and it was only a lap and a half until you repassed me; I was having to take the second tyre chicane very conservatively on hard tyres, especially as I couldn't afford a stop to repair any damage or my whole strategy would be toast, so when you had a look at the inside I didn't dare conest the pass.

After that I could only try to apply as much pressure as I could - the reward was you taking the first tyre chicane a fraction too fast, running onto the gravel and spinning out of the class lead. After that it was fairly plain sailing apart from my stupid spin - which was extra stupid because I was feeling pressure from Tyf, who was not only quite a few seconds behind, but not actually on the same lap! D'oh! Embarrassed Roll Eyes
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« Reply #38 on: August 22, 2005, 11:05:59 AM +0100 »

Sorry Aagramn, usurping your role here (I'll have the unions on me!) but couldn't resist impoting the provisional results. Grin
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« Reply #39 on: August 22, 2005, 11:12:29 AM +0100 »

Sorry Aagramn, usurping your role here (I'll have the unions on me!) but couldn't resist impoting the provisional results. Grin

Nice one Dave, I was keen for the results to appear! Grin
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« Reply #40 on: August 22, 2005, 12:14:15 PM +0100 »

 Grin Nuff said
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« Reply #41 on: August 22, 2005, 12:37:46 PM +0100 »

Hi Dave sorry it lost all ff and the throttle and brake are still backwards.If I try it in lfs the controls do not work at all throttle is flat and brakes on . It was all ok until halfway through the pace lap. I may have a go with dx treak or what ever. Bye for now gerald ps glad you managed to get going
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« Reply #42 on: August 22, 2005, 01:07:22 PM +0100 »

I decided at the last minute to join in to get some much needed race practice. Stuck with the Z3 as the Seat might have been tricky at Enna with no practice. Qual was more about finding a setup I liked than getting a time, as I was bound to be at the back. Started with Simon's qual setup, but changed it away from the low downforce configuration. Went with a full tank and a no-stop strategy.

Started the race behind Dave, and stayed with him for a few laps until Gerald took Dave off. The next lap or so I could see Gerald going for a very similar pass and expected the worst. There was tyre smoke, Gerald missed the corner and I stupidly missed my turn-in point as I watched. A slow spin on the exit and then a rejoin some way behind Dave followed.

Gradually got in the groove and the times came down. Dave wasn't going away that quickly but I made a few silly mistakes, mainly because I kept forgetting which gear I was in and changing down one too many times. By half distance Dave was about 20 secs up the road but I was reducing the gap on some laps. Then started pushing a tad too hard to close the gap, when I should have realised that as the other NGTs pitted I was gaining places. After a few silly errors and another spin at the first tyre chicane I retired at about 2/3s distance as I felt I was more in hotlap mode than racing mode which isn't good when you are a non-scoring driver.

Enjoyed the race anyway.

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« Reply #43 on: August 22, 2005, 02:15:40 PM +0100 »

hi all hope you all hand a good race was there for qualifying but gave up, to tired after just driving home for 3 hours kept falling asleep.look forward to the next race
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« Reply #44 on: August 22, 2005, 04:57:19 PM +0100 »

My race in pictures
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