NGT Sprint Cup - Season 1, Round 6, Spa - Aug 16th

[Paul968]

Should ave gone to 'Kerb Crawlers' m8 - they know all the short cuts! ;-)

[popabawa]

Should ave gone to 'Kerb Crawlers' m8 - they know all the short cuts! ;-)

"Short-cut's for Kerb Crawlers" - that's a damn fine name for an album...

On another note, anyone remember that brain-numbingly difficult shortcut cheat on Mario Kart 64 on the Mario Speedway track? That was HARD.

[PaulW]

GTR Mario Kart Mod- now there's a game!

2:18 I can't believe but there are 5 or so people with that time and a good 10 with 2:19. Perhaps the extra time comes from people turning off damage, tyre wear etc and then using freaky hotlap set-ups?

I'm going to continue to hotlap under qualifying conditions because at least then I've a hope in hell of transferring the time to the races!

[popabawa]

GTR Mario Kart Mod- now there's a game!

I reckon I could do with a few red shells to take out Tyf next time he speeds past me in his Bi-T...  

[Paul968]

2:18 I can't believe but there are 5 or so people with that time and a good 10 with 2:19. Perhaps the extra time comes from people turning off damage, tyre wear etc and then using freaky hotlap set-ups?

Fraid not - Mat will be in the 19s I'm sure. Might sneak one if I'm lucky.

Paul

[Mike Wrightson]

So far I've only been working on race setup and I've been getting reasonably comfortable 2:22's.  This means I may be lucky and get a 2:20 for qually   Eau Rouge is rather hairy and the Bus Stop still gives me fits as I STILL can't get a consistent line through it 

(It is known that some of the fastest GTRank times are set using ABS and traction control)

[PaulW]

(It is known that some of the fastest GTRank times are set using ABS and traction control)

Bah, cheating. But if it's what floats your boat then what the hell I guess.

I've a few 22's and more regular 23's and I think I know where some more time can come from- a couple of curb sections I'm taking a bit gingerly. Doesn't mean I won't qualify terribly as usual though!

[fozzmeister]

(It is known that some of the fastest GTRank times are set using ABS and traction control)

Yeh, but can they get round a track for an hour without it? It's a shame ABS doesn't carry at least some form of speed penalty... Anybody know if it does in real life like things such as traction control?

Fozzmeister

[Woodee]

i like running with traction control on low...makes things less twitchy and unpredictable. ABS on low also helps my shockingly bad control setup! Let's see if I can actually remember to turn up next week!!

[picnic]

UKGTR servers shouldn't allow any TC or ABS, best to practice that way too I would have thought!

Only aid allowed should be auto-clutch.

[[ZiP]Tyf]

GTR Mario Kart Mod- now there's a game!

I reckon I could do with a few red shells to take out Tyf next time he speeds past me in his Bi-T...   

My barking boat will still look just as scary in your rearviewmirror m8 !

On the GTRank subject. I believe I read the admin (Uwe) saying that it's too hard to get the information of ABS and TC out of GTR for the ranking, hence you will not be able to tell if people will have used it or not. Some guys (gals? ) are really fast though in general, like Mr. Huttu for example. I learned the game/tracks with both on low by the way and now only drive/practise/hotlap with auto-clutch on, since the rest is not allowed by UKGTR.

On a side note: Henrik Roos has said that the game feels most like racing the GT cars for real when ABS and TC are on low. Because of the obvious differences in driver input between real life and the game. Both aren't allowed in the cars though as far as I know .

T

[Mike Wrightson]

Yeh, but can they get round a track for an hour without it? It's a shame ABS doesn't carry at least some form of speed penalty... Anybody know if it does in real life like things such as traction control

If they turned the aids off their hotlap setups, they would hardly be able to get it round the track   Try it and see just how aggressive you can make the setup if you no longer have to worry about wheel-lock and wheelspin.

In real-life ABS always tended to make the cars faster, probably more for the control that would be retained braking deep into corners.

[fozzmeister]

In real-life ABS always tended to make the cars faster, probably more for the control that would be retained braking deep into corners.

I know Martin Brundle, when he's on one of his "look how superior Jenson Button is" always says that JB has a great way of driving just below the where the TC cuts in, strongly implying that TC would be slower in F1.

ABS in race cars works by noticing when the wheels are locked doesn't it, as apposed to road cars where it releases the brakes all the time...

[picnic]

[ABS in race cars works by noticing when the wheels are locked doesn't it, as apposed to road cars where it releases the brakes all the time...

ABS in road cars works by detecting if wheels are not rotating. Some of the cheaper systems can't control each brake individually so release a brake that may not have locked because it in the same hydraulic circuit to a locked wheel.

[Mike Wrightson]

I know Martin Brundle, when he's on one of his "look how superior Jenson Button is" always says that JB has a great way of driving just below the where the TC cuts in, strongly implying that TC would be slower in F1.

Yeah, if they use too much TC then it would be slower as the car would not be accellerating   There's definately an art to getting the best out of an F1 cars TC, where you BARELY trigger it on all but the slowest turns.