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  • S15Dc Monza: June 22, 2008
June 22, 2008, 09:12:50 PM +0100 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - UKGPL Season 15 (2008) Clubmans
Driver
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Will Tway
 Crash 'N' Burn Racing
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 1 1:28.318
145.595mph
1 31:44.314
141.800mph
21 1:28.429
145.412mph
Firestone  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 4 +0.849
144.208mph
2 +3.280
141.556mph
21 1:29.606
143.502mph
Goodyear  
batestfastard
 BCF Racing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 3 +0.526
144.733mph
3 +13.103
140.831mph
21 1:28.848
144.726mph
Goodyear  
petestenning
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 7 +1.874
142.569mph
4 +22.259
140.161mph
21 1:30.488
142.103mph
Goodyear  
Burtoner
 The Coopermen
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 12 +2.847
141.048mph
5 +31.502
139.492mph
21 1:31.008
141.291mph
Firestone  
Ian Stanley
 Reed Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 8 +2.271
141.945mph
6 +36.104
139.161mph
21 1:30.875
141.498mph
Goodyear  
Bully
 Crash 'N' Burn Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 5 +1.280
143.515mph
7 +40.489
138.848mph
21 1:30.228
142.513mph
Goodyear  
b_1_rd
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 6 +1.629
142.958mph
8 +46.225
138.439mph
21 1:31.020
141.273mph
Goodyear  
Michael Turner
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 10 +2.757
141.187mph
9 +1:24.812
135.754mph
21 1:30.281
142.429mph
Firestone  
Art
 Crash 'N' Burn Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 15 10 +2:14.961
132.415mph
21 1:30.183
142.584mph
Goodyear  
Phil Thornton
 Crash 'N' Burn Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 9 +2.403
141.738mph
11 +1:55.458
133.694mph
21 1:30.932
141.409mph
Goodyear  
Jack O'Ferrall
 Reed Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 11 +2.800
141.121mph
12 +1L
134.604mph
20 1:31.395
140.693mph
Goodyear  
G Poole
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 13 +5.837
136.569mph
13 +55.501
130.804mph
20 1:32.521
138.981mph
Goodyear  
Paul_Mccluskey
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 2 +0.268
145.154mph
14 DNS ---
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Firestone  
3 UKGPL67
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 14 15 ---
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Firestone  

Moderator's Report

Will Tway scores his second win of the season which propels him to third position on the championship table. Will has wisely opted to take a Lotus and carried out a mandatory pitstop after which he rejoined in fourth but the car selection played its advantage and Will was able to reclaim his position by overtaking two Brabhams and a spinning Ian Docherty. Will also claimed the race fastest lap of 1m28.429s.

Bernie Darwin for sure had the biggest grin of all after the race as he claimed another second place and firmly established him self at the top of the table, after overcoming the chassis handicap and driving very quickly and very consistently over the race distance and has bragging rights for the line flatest of all, with an upward tendency.
Bernie has six point advantage over Phil who won't be losing any sleep after the Monza race as he now finally has a low score to drop and can afford him self one more bad race and stll keep the momentum in the title fight.

Ian Docherty climbed onto the final podium position, for the second time this season, and joins the driver brigade with century of points, breathing down the neck of Robert Burton. After Will made his stop, Ian was set to win the race but the pressure of being in the lead seems to have gotten to Ian and he started making mistakes and had a bit of misfortune so lost positions to Will and Bernie.

We welcome back Peter Stenning who on his return did well to finish 4th after qualifying 7th and drove a very consistent race without putting the foot wrong.

Other notable performances were those of Robert Burton who drove a very consistent race, actually the most consistent of all, with his average lap time of 1.31.5 just half a second adrift from his Cooper PB in Monza - very impressive indeed. Ian Stanley did a great job with his BRM, losing his position to Burt with a single mistake with two laps to go. Steve Bird also looked very consistent in his Eagle and seems to have had on of his finest races thus far.

We now head into the mountain course of Lime Rock where chassis handicap won’t be as important as it was in Monza. I noticed a bit of panic amongst the drivers as it’s a new circuit but yours truly will make some efforts and get some links to decent setups and replays for this new track ;) Watch out for the race announcement.

Three races to go and there’s everything to play for. All top 7 drivers on the table still have a mathematical chance of winining the championship but Bernie and Phil remain firm favourites for the top glory and it will be interesting to see if any of the next three drivers can throw them selves into the mix.

Congratulations to Will, Bernie and Ian for their podium finishes.


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Lap 3 - Parabolica

Art finds the quickest way out of Parabolica and hits the concrete wall masked as a hedgehog. Needs a Shift R and doesn`t carry out a Stop and Go to compensate.


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Lap 6 - Parabolica

Art, as if magnetically attracted, revisits the same spot and picks up another Shift R but again doesn`t do a Stop and Go.

This is already a hefty time penalty of one minute, half of that unnecessarily earned not having opted to do a SnG.


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Lap 9 - Curva Grande

Michael Turner is taking Curva Grande at full speed following Phil and Burton. Phil is running out of fuel so leaves the racing line on the exit of Curva Grande and parks to reset. Michael seemingly misinterprets this and seems to want to get some tow and only too late realises that Phil is coming to a halt. There is a slight contact and both drivers are sent into a spin. Phil resets for the reason he initially stopped for and Michael, though without damage, is oddly stuck in the barrier and has to reset in order to be able to continue.

Michael could have avoided Phil entirely (as there was plenty of room to the left) so he is NOT entitled to a no fault Shift R and Stop and Go was required but has not been carried out. A 15 seconds penalty is issued as I will accept that contact with another car was the contributing factor.

Though Michael had nothing to do on the side of the track Phil was stopping on, it is easy to make a mistake judging the speed of the driver ahead, I believe the incident was more down to Phil`s selection of his Shift R location. It is quite dangerous making a Shift R anywhere on the track except the Start-Finish straight which is the widest therefore, less likely to get in the way of other drivers.

Phil noticed the engine was spluttering right from the exit of Parabolica so there was a far better alternative of stopping right there and making a Stop and Go immediatelly afterwards as he was going to pass pits anyway. Caution for Phil here as he was racing under unusual circumstances due to having forgotten to set race fuel.

Its never a good idea to drastically change speed at the exit of fast corners as you can never count on drivers behind maintaining ideal line and it would have been far better to have driven a bit further down towards the left kink towards Lesmo and stop there.

  • Michael Turner — Failure to carry out a Stop and Go — 15.000 seconds added
  • Phil Thorntoncaution — Poor selection of place to make a Shift R


Server replay time: 0h20m30s

Lap 12 - Lesmo 1

Phil loses the back end into first Lesmo and Michael tries his best to avoid his spinning car. A slight contact is made but no damage was done and both cars were able to continue.

  • Racing incident


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Lap 15 - Lesmo 2

Graham oversteers into the second Lesmo and then struggles to regain control while exiting. In these attempts, he weaves left and right accross track and allows Jack behind him to pass him for a position. At the same time, Ian Docherty is following whats happening ahead and misjudges the moment when to lap struggling Graham. Side contact is made and Ian is sent into a spin but no damage was done to either car.

While Graham should have done much better controlling his Eagle attempting to keep Jack behind him, Ian should have chosen a better moment to lap him as he looked obviously unpredictable and out of control. With considerable gap to 2nd placed Bernie`s Brabham, there was no need to go that soon.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h24m37s

Lap 15 - Start - Finish straight

Phil again runs out of fuel but this time opts to make a pitstop for fuel. He enters the pits and does a Shift R in the pitlane which is considered stopping for fuel and not allowed in Clubmans division. A Stop and Go was still required.

Just to clarify: stopping before pitlane and making a Shift R and then entering pitlane for a Stop and Go is allowed, entering pitlane and Shifting R onto the track does not mean a Stop and Go is no longer required.

  • Phil Thornton — Failure to carry out a Stop and Go — 30.000 seconds added

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« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2008, 10:18:02 PM +0100 »

Is it just me that doesnt know there way around Lime Rock Mountain ? just had a peek at the track , looks like a load of fun  Grin

I would suggest a practise race or two would be in order so we can get some sort of familiarity .

what do you guys think ? all comments on a post card please  Smiley

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« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2008, 10:26:35 PM +0100 »

Apologies to Ian for ruining his race, Bernie was right I got into a tank slapper as I moved off the racing line at lesmo 2, trying to let Jack thro, who I thought was the reason for the blue flag. Didnt see Ian as I fought to regain control.

Don't fret it Graham, I've been responsible for more than my fair share of mayhem. Thanx for a great race all. I've gotta miss the next one for holiday reasons but look forward to battling you all again soon.

Regards, "Redmist"
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« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2008, 10:36:57 PM +0100 »

Is it just me that doesnt know there way around Lime Rock Mountain ? just had a peek at the track , looks like a load of fun  Grin


Lime Rock Mtn...hell I just downloaded Road Atlanta last night  turned

Give me a few days Bernie and I'll post it up on the Zappa server so we can rumble on the hills of Connecticut.

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« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2008, 11:27:37 PM +0100 »

sounds like a plan  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2008, 10:16:13 AM +0100 »

After a weekend of trying to get GPL to run properly online and asking as many people I could find for help, including Ian S and Dave (Jack O'F) who I caught online last night (thanks for your advice guys, if you read this), all following a windows restore on Friday night, I finally found out why my GPL was running at half clock speed. My power saving settings were set to 'energystar', after changing it to 'home/office desk' everything works as it should. Don't ask me why, but it does. It only took 26 hours, many GPL re-installs and much banging of my head against a brick wall to work it out. Finally getting it working at 3:15AM Sunday morning.

I had my best race so far. Now technically it's not my best finish, but it's the first finish I've felt like I earned properly and not gifted by discos etc.

I qualified 6th! At the start I was slow away (really must practice those, but not normally an issue from the back) and was in 8th pretty much by the s/f line. I took it easy'ish on the first few bends to bring everything, including me, up to temperature. My frame rate wasn't brilliant and was stuttering a bit around 17FPS. I span at Parabolica on lap 2 which was disappointing, although no excuse really, the FPS didn't help.

After the spin and most of the field went through I set off again in P10 with good FPS, back to 36. I had close company from Artur who also went off at Parabolica at the same time. Artur span again at Lesmo 1 and I was clear. Concentrating on trying to stay consistent and have no more silly spins, when I came across Phil and Mikes' incident just out of Curva Grande. Got through without any contact and into P8. I was expecting Phil and Mike to catch me but saw Phil drop right away after the pits and guessed he went straight for a S&G. After that I had a pretty lonely race, which is fine by me, for now. After following Bully for a few laps but couldn't close, not wanting to push the eagle's engine at the end of the race, I finished P8, nothing breathtaking for most but it was good to have completed the race staying on track, other than the lap 2 spin, and running at a reasonable pace to get a midfield finish, instead of in the last 2 or 3 of the finishing drivers. So I'm happy with it.

Back to a track I don't know and have no setup now with Lime Rock.

Cheers for now Guys.
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« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2008, 07:01:42 PM +0100 »

Pleased to see you've sorted out your PC problems Steve.  However, your frame rate at the start is very bad, I get problems like that if I have the detail bias too high.  I find setting it mid way gives the best balance between nice sharp graphics and responsive controls.  If the frame rate is that bad there tends to be a lag in the controls which makes the car very hard to control.

On the subject of set ups.  Personally I'd go with a setup you're happy with on another similar track.  All you need to do is change the diff ratio to adjust the overall gearing.  I find that is good enough for me, I think it is important to be comfortable with the feel of the car and then learn the new track.  I wouldn't recommend having to get used to the feel of a new setup and on top of that learn a new track.
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« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2008, 08:22:45 PM +0100 »

Thanks Phil.

I had my detail bias at full as I'd forgotton in the rush to get everything up and running to trun it down.  It only came to light when all the cars were close by at the start and as I was mid pack, stayed fairly poor until the spin.  I've ended up re-installing windows as I was getting alot of annoyances after the partial restore and have moved (promoted Wink) GPL to my c:\ drive so that should help even more, although to be honest everything was working well with it installed on my external drive when I had it setup properly.

I've not even seen the track at Lime Rock yet, so have no idea what other tracks are similar.  I'll get some practice in the next few days so hopefully have a better idea of what I need to do.  I've been trying several setups since I started with GPL earlier this year and think I have settled with one that I can work with now.

Anyway, thanks for the advice, and look forward to the practice server becoming available to get some time in on track, online.

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« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2008, 08:36:33 PM +0100 »

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I've not even seen the track at Lime Rock yet, so have no idea what other tracks are similar. 

A bit like Monaco run backwards with a touch of Monza thrown in, also with the added bonus of gradients that wouldn't be outside the scope of Mt Everest  Shocked


If you find any half decent set ups , please pass them over .

I will be visiting Chester Zoo this weekend , I hope to get some "set up" advice from the head keeper , he looks after a large flock of Hymalayan Mountain Goats  Roll Eyes

 
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« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2008, 08:40:53 PM +0100 »


I've not even seen the track at Lime Rock yet, so have no idea what other tracks are similar.  I'll get some practice in the next few days so hopefully have a better idea of what I need to do.  I've been trying several setups since I started with GPL earlier this year and think I have settled with one that I can work with now.


Hint: try your Glen setup as a starting point Smiley
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« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2008, 08:50:31 PM +0100 »

Jeez Stephen , you know I'm crap at the Glenn , but thanks for the heads up m8 , it will be a pleasure trashing them Coops and who knows ,you might even get to see my exhaust pipes every few laps or so  Grin

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« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2008, 10:14:05 PM +0100 »

Snow chains and a 4 wheel drive is in order then!   Grin
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« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2008, 11:41:37 PM +0100 »

 Shocked  OMG! your havin' a giraffe surely! What is this Lime Rock place!

Have I got the right track download here, I see no track side markers for the corners! Where do I break? The 400th tree on the left!

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« Reply #27 on: June 25, 2008, 12:10:57 AM +0100 »

Use the force, Luke.
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« Reply #28 on: June 25, 2008, 12:19:51 AM +0100 »

Shocked  OMG! your havin' a giraffe surely! What is this Lime Rock place!

Have I got the right track download here, I see no track side markers for the corners! Where do I break? The 400th tree on the left!

 Grin

399 left now after I went by  Grin
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« Reply #29 on: June 25, 2008, 08:59:09 PM +0100 »

Gentlemen, the report is up. Well done everybody.

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