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  • NGT Sprint - S1 R6 - Spa: August 16, 2005
August 16, 2005, 09:23:30 PM +0100 - Spa (2003) - UKGTR GTR1 Sprint Season 1 N-GT
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Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Matjaz Plotajs
 dE Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 2 +0.042
110.815mph
1 29:32.854
105.212mph
12 2:20.919
110.303mph
Dunlop  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 3 +0.730
110.274mph
2 +14.862
104.337mph
12 2:22.588
109.012mph
Pirelli  
Mike Wrightson
 dE Racing
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 4 +1.405
109.748mph
3 +23.522
103.834mph
12 2:22.421
109.139mph
Dunlop  
PaulW
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 5 +2.525
108.887mph
4 +26.460
103.665mph
12 2:23.263
108.498mph
Dunlop  
greg130
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 10 +4.197
107.627mph
5 +52.932
102.162mph
12 2:25.192
107.057mph
Dunlop  
malonejames
 
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 11 +4.640
107.297mph
6 +57.883
101.885mph
12 2:24.607
107.490mph
Dunlop  
popabawa
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 12 +4.862
107.133mph
7 +1:05.118
101.484mph
12 2:26.715
105.945mph
Dunlop  
Don
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 15 +5.566
106.616mph
8 +1:45.931
99.280mph
12 2:27.625
105.292mph
Dunlop  
rufbtr
 Speedworx
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 8 +3.421
108.208mph
9 +1:57.241
98.686mph
12 2:23.729
108.146mph
Dunlop  
as-here
 
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 16 +6.833
105.697mph
10 +2:19.116
97.556mph
12 2:28.650
104.566mph
Dunlop  
picnic
 Team Shark
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 17 +6.892
105.655mph
11 +2:36.938
96.656mph
12 2:25.949
106.501mph
Dunlop  
TinMan
 
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 19 +8.810
104.295mph
12 +1L
96.148mph
11 2:30.217
103.475mph
Dunlop  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 9 +3.748
107.962mph
13 +0.998
96.094mph
11 2:25.470
106.852mph
Dunlop  
Jamera
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 23 +15.336
99.920mph
14 +14.887
95.350mph
11 2:30.450
103.315mph
Dunlop  
Oilseal
 Team Oldie Racing
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 22 +15.162
100.032mph
15 +40.038
94.031mph
11 2:34.908
100.342mph
Pirelli  
Woodee
 
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 18 +8.090
104.802mph
16 +52.042
93.414mph
11 2:28.979
104.335mph
Dunlop  
mo
 
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 7 +3.001
108.525mph
17 +1:31.204
91.457mph
11 2:23.537
108.291mph
Dunlop  
silver53
 Ze insane Penguins
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 24 +15.675
99.703mph
18 +1:34.056
91.318mph
11 2:34.382
100.684mph
Dunlop  
Paul968
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 1 2:20.226
110.848mph
19 +7L 5 2:24.556
107.528mph
unknown
Pirelli  
[ZiP]Tyf
 Ze insane Penguins
Porsche 996 GT2 Bi-turbo NGT 6 +2.856
108.635mph
20 +8L 4 2:27.021
105.725mph
unknown
Pirelli  
fozzmeister
 The Crafty Butchers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 13 +4.988
107.040mph
21 +9L 3 2:28.693
104.536mph
unknown
Pirelli  
Rob Bywater "Kerb Crawlers"
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 20 +8.977
104.179mph
22 3 3:41.518
70.169mph
suspension
Dunlop  
ProtoSpecs
 
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 21 +12.524
101.759mph
23 +12L
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Dunlop  
Truetom
 Ze insane Penguins
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 14 +5.558
106.622mph
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Dunlop  

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There were a number of people reported to be chatting away during the pace lap. This is strictly against the rules.


Server replay time: 100s

As a result of the chatter that was going on, Paul968's pace lap was a little faster than desirable. Fortunately there don't seem to have been any accidents as a result, but the extra pace not only made the pace lap much more stressful for those near the back, but results in an unfairly large gap between the polesitter and the tail enders when the race begins.

  • Paul968caution — excessive speed on the pace lap


Server replay time: 1470s

RufBTR spins out on the exit of Rivage; Mo approaches, sees the tyre smoke and lifts off, but too late to avoid hitting Ruf full on.

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« Reply #60 on: August 16, 2005, 10:41:54 PM +0100 »

It isn't that clever Protospecs Wink
Did you join for the race and then hit escape for fuel or something?
Or move the car before the MOTEC display starts the race time counter?
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« Reply #61 on: August 16, 2005, 10:46:11 PM +0100 »

I was gonna drive my first race tonight with UKGTR ,but when the race started i found myself disqualified???
No message, nothing..the only reason i can think of is the accident i had on the very first lap in the game: (qualifiyng)
A sort of mix between causin it and beeing involved in. I held up a faster car, but he drove like "evaporate or die"
Some times it takes 1 to 1'5 sec to get out of someones way,especially when u nearly lost control of youre car ( cold tyres )
 Is that  all it takes to get DQ?

Nope can't be anything to do with it. As for the driving, Qualify is sometimes like that, I'm ashamed to say I've done it once to someone at Enna (not a champ race Dave... please no more penalty points  Wink ). I take it you pressed start? if you hit it on zero do you start from teh pit lane (this is what the ADC guide says) , if so any movement causes a DQ. I think if you move before the lights go green you get a stop and go so it aint that.

We like everybody else are using the giant bug that passes as a game. Sorry your race was ruined but hope to see you again. I raced with you at Anders a few days before you joined and you were pretty OK.

Oh Proto, no chat in races, don't bother me but others it does, it'll probably get overlooked as first race / only on warmup / you took notice when made aware. (We get penalties here for naughty stuff  Shocked )

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« Reply #62 on: August 16, 2005, 10:51:06 PM +0100 »

It isn't that clever Protospecs Wink
Did you join for the race and then hit escape for fuel or something?
Or move the car before the MOTEC display starts the race time counter?

No!! I never touced a thing! the warm up was over and after that  i was never able to join ,thats why i asumed someone disqualified me...
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« Reply #63 on: August 16, 2005, 11:04:03 PM +0100 »

Good, nice to hear.., ,about the bugs...: the original f1 2002 GTR mod had far less bugs (if any!) then the finished product... silly..,some folk need need to patch this thing rather sooner then later....are there any attempts made that u guys know of? like u guys i look at the motec racetimer for the start,i try to tell that to people when i host, but theres always a few missing the point...but not ur car.....another race wasted......
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« Reply #64 on: August 16, 2005, 11:12:16 PM +0100 »

Sorry to Woodee for giving you no where to go.


It's happened every race so far....so I should be getting used to it by now Smiley
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« Reply #65 on: August 16, 2005, 11:15:00 PM +0100 »

Had a good race - only made one mistake spinning at the Bus stop, and didn't get in anyones way (I think / hope?)
Running in 6th for most of laps behind Rufbtr but eventually had to pit for new splitter after smash - 112 second pit stop i mean wtf i chose no tyres or fuel!

Anyway when i came out of the pits all kinds of stuff going on like my cockpit view changing as if someone pushing [Insert]
and brake markers coming and going.
Was like someone was pushing buttons on my keyboard -  slightly distracting Shocked Huh
Hopefully its just the batteries on the way out in the keyboard.

Anyway i finished 17th or some carp like that in the end but had huge fun and finally managed to keep tyres below boiling point
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« Reply #66 on: August 16, 2005, 11:25:43 PM +0100 »

Couldn't make a single clean lap in qualifying but I still somehow managed to start from second position. Start was OK... I didn't want to get to close to Paul through the Eau Rouge because that would cause my car to understeer. Instead I just tried to have a fast exit and that enabled me to get into his sleepstream. Did a fake attempt to pass Paul which caused him to brake a bit to late so he had to cut the corner over the grass. Paul was fair enough to rejoin the track outside the line so I managed to overtake him. He then fought back and after my small mistake in the fast left corner before the bus stop managed to get really close to me. I had one look to many in my rear mirror, locked the brakes and went a bit wide in the bus stop chicane, clipped the wall and was sure Paul was going to grab the lead from me but then realized he had a spin. The rest of the race I was slowly moving away from Shark and had a very scary moment when Ginsters spun in front of me in the last lap. I decided to go right and noticed he is moving to the right as well (which was correct) so I rapidly lift off the throttle and turned left... anyone who ever drove the Porsche knows it doesn't like this kind of maneuvers so it became very nervous and I had to do an acrobatic stuff with my wheel to catch it from spinning.

Happy for my win and for my team mate Mike who finished in 3rd !
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« Reply #67 on: August 16, 2005, 11:38:27 PM +0100 »

Good, nice to hear.., ,about the bugs...: the original f1 2002 GTR mod had far less bugs (if any!) then the finished product... silly..,some folk need need to patch this thing rather sooner then later....are there any attempts made that u guys know of? like u guys i look at the motec racetimer for the start,i try to tell that to people when i host, but theres always a few missing the point...but not ur car.....another race wasted......

It's looking highly doubtful for further patches. I think it's abandonware, but that's OK coz i've abandonsimbin so at least its two way :-) Stick with it (and us), we're quite well set up and the racing is good here.
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« Reply #68 on: August 16, 2005, 11:48:50 PM +0100 »

Phew, Matj just viewed the replay and perhaps you were more frightened than me at that moment Shocked. All i tried to do was get off track as soon as I could and am glad it turned out to be the right thing.
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« Reply #69 on: August 17, 2005, 12:24:27 AM +0100 »

A big "Well Done" to PaulW for his 4th place, very well done and totally deserved mate  Grin

Super racing tonight, Spa is so stressful, I was a sweaty mess at the end of it! Happy to say I had a tottally incident free race.

Once again, nerves / tension got the better of me in qualifying and I was down in 12th. Very disappointed with that.

I did have a little moment in qualifying, on one lap, coming through Bus Stop, I found Truetom parked right in the middle! In no way am I blaming Truetom, it must have been an artifact / glitch but it was really odd.

Picked up a couple of places on lap 1 as Tyf and Ginsters went off, managed to pull away from Fozz so I was just left to chase JM-Racing.

Saw Paul968 go off and wasn't looking forward to defending my place there but Eau Rouge saved me. Picked up another place (Mo I think) and suddenly found JM-Racing right in front of me. JM, you were quick for me, I couldn't make an impression.

RUF-BTR looked like his tyres were shot when I picked up 7th place, which is where I finished.

Mr Consistent, that's me, last 3 races; 8th, 8th, 7th!

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« Reply #70 on: August 17, 2005, 09:23:00 AM +0100 »

Hi Guys as you may or may not know I am a vehicle technician by profession and a part time tutor in that subject . ABS I had great faith in ABS until on Jan the 1st this year, I had to brake hard on sheet ice on a motorway in scotland as there was a muliple shunt in front of me at around midnight doing about 30mph in a blizzard my lovely vectra did not respond to kadence or any other braking and wrote itself off on the back of a merc sprinter van. At the time of impact I think it picked up speed. I work closely with the police vehicle examiners and the theory with pre 2000 cars is that if all wheels lock it just gives up for a split second taking the option of braking at all from the driver. I think we all know the sound of skidding on ice it sort of whistles , well I can tell you all I knew we were in trouble as there was eirey silence. I now through economic hard ship drive an old carlton and have much more faith in the brakes. It completely sh**t me up and I only did about 50 on the return journey in a hired car. I no longer have any faith in fancy braking. see you all tonight.gerald


Hi Just thought I would chip in here.
Driving here in Finland we have snow and ice on the roads for 7 months of the year and I have found the ABS system to be very good, of course we use( snow/ice tyres that are studded) and allow us to stop relatively safely. Before I had the ABS system it was a case of pumping the brakes to try and stop, and you couldn't always tell if the wheels are locing or not, but with the ABS it's a lot easier. Traction control is also useful when trying to time your entry at a junction or trying to  pull away from the lights, not to mention 4wd.
I don't think any normal summer tyres are going to allow you any kind of emergency stop (30mph) on  ice, with or without ABS, and yes it will feel like you are picking up speed. Scary shit I know.
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