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  • GT Sprint - S1 R6 - Spa: August 17, 2005
August 17, 2005, 09:20:56 PM +0100 - Spa (2003) - UKGTR GTR1 Sprint Season 1 GT
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Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Ballast
Mark Harrison
 Kerb Crawlers
Lister Storm GT1 3 +0.624
117.293mph
1 28:15.178
110.033mph
12 2:13.167
116.724mph
Dunlop  
JonM_uk
 Ze insane Penguins
Lister Storm GT1 1 2:11.897
117.848mph
2 +22.625
108.583mph
12 2:13.413
116.509mph
Dunlop  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Lister Storm GT1 4 +1.328
116.673mph
3 +40.270
107.479mph
12 2:16.404
113.954mph
Dunlop  
Paul968
 Kerb Crawlers
Lister Storm GT1 2 +0.348
117.538mph
4 +40.674
107.454mph
12 2:14.151
115.868mph
Dunlop  
Smoothy
 Team Shark
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 10 +4.777
113.729mph
5 +50.492
106.850mph
12 2:17.269
113.236mph
Michelin  
greg130
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 6 +3.104
115.138mph
6 +52.280
106.741mph
12 2:15.506
114.709mph
Michelin  
Zacari
 
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 11 +5.249
113.337mph
7 +1:04.799
105.982mph
12 2:15.398
114.800mph
Pirelli  
cb95amc
 
Lister Storm GT1 12 +5.505
113.126mph
8 +1:12.535
105.518mph
12 2:17.056
113.412mph
Dunlop  
Don
 Kerb Crawlers
Dodge Viper GTS-R GT1 17 +7.608
111.421mph
9 +1:34.130
104.244mph
12 2:18.687
112.078mph
Dunlop  
Woodee
 
Lister Storm GT1 21 +11.416
108.460mph
10 +1:43.245
103.716mph
12 2:20.421
110.694mph
Dunlop  
[ZiP]Tyf
 Ze insane Penguins
Dodge Viper GTS-R GT1 16 +7.586
111.438mph
11 +2:16.593
101.828mph
12 2:17.542
113.011mph
Michelin  
CP
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 575 GTC GT1 15 +7.282
111.682mph
12 +2:17.057
101.802mph
12 2:22.176
109.328mph
Pirelli  
silver53
 Ze insane Penguins
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT GT1 20 +10.352
109.271mph
13 +1L
100.566mph
11 2:22.713
108.916mph
Michelin  
aajay_uk
 
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 23 +11.698
108.247mph
14 +14.886
99.693mph
11 2:23.300
108.470mph
Michelin  
FlyBri
 
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 7 +3.392
114.893mph
15 +2L 10 2:15.920
114.360mph
unknown
Michelin  
TinMan
 
Saleen S7-R GT1 19 +8.411
110.783mph
16 +5L 7 2:20.431
110.686mph
unknown
Dunlop  
bernie_eccle
 
Lister Storm GT1 18 +8.121
111.013mph
17 +6L 6 2:21.823
109.600mph
accident
Dunlop  
locutos ukgtr
 DM Racing
Lister Storm GT1 5 +1.847
116.220mph
18 +8L 4 2:15.937
114.345mph
suspension
Dunlop  
Jamera
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 22 +11.465
108.423mph
19 +9L 3 2:25.375
106.922mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Aagramn
 Team Shark
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 9 +4.099
114.296mph
20 +10L 2 2:39.454
97.481mph
unknown
Michelin  
fozzmeister
 The Crafty Butchers
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 13 +5.526
113.109mph
21 2 3:32.994
72.977mph
unknown
Michelin  
Bombdogs
 Ze insane Penguins
Lister Storm GT1 14 +6.966
111.936mph
22 2 2:22.835
108.823mph
suspension
Dunlop  
David M
 DM Racing
Lister Storm GT1 +12L 0 ---
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unknown
Dunlop  
mclaessen
 Speedworx
Saleen S7-R GT1 8 +4.050
114.337mph
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Dunlop  

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Some drivers have developed the habit of running with lights on even though it is daylight, dry, and they are not lapping anyone. Please stop it.


Server replay time: 290s

Locutos has run wide into Les Combes, and Ginsters has to slow to avoid contact as he runs back onto the track. Then into Malmedy, Locutos uses a large amount of kerb, and Ginsters, who has gotten almost completely alongside, hasn't left quite enough room for him to get back onto the track surface before running out of kerbing, and there is some side contact.


Server replay time: 420s

Locutos has gone off in Eau Rouge and rejoins behind Ginsters. As Greg130 comes up behind Locutos, the latter is just in the process of drifing over from the right to the left, which is the conventional racing line, but is still much slower than Greg, who moves right to pass.

As he does so, Locutos also moves right, perhaps to get off the racing line, forcing Greg onto the grass, which not only allows Locutos back past, but also FlyBri.

Locutos did not submit an incident report, but I do not believe that he intentionally blocked Greg. However, when recovering from an incident it is important that the recovering driver does not create additional danger for other cars.


Server replay time: 525s

Smoothy gets a better run out of the Bus Stop that Greg; the former first looks to the right, then to the left, but Greg doesn't leave enough room on the left for Smoothy to get alongside, and as a result, Zacari sticks his nose down the inside of Smoothy, and there is light contact in the middle of Eau Rouge.

In my opinion, Smoothy was entitled to try to pass on the outside of Eau Rouge, and Greg effectively blocked him. However, there seems to have been some slight warp in the middle of the F1 grid as Smoothy appears to bounce off the wall; I do not know if this is a contributary factor. In addition, the shape of the road leading to Eau Rouge introduces an ambiguity into the situation.


Server replay time: 1301s

Smoothy locks a wheel going into Les Fagnes and runs wide. Paul968, who is right behind him, gets a much better run out of Fagnes, and pulls out to go past; Smoothy gets launched back off the curbs and Paul has to complete his pass on the grass.

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« Reply #30 on: August 18, 2005, 11:09:58 AM +0100 »

odd...i sent the email last night. Would your email server has reject 1-2mb or attachments? In RAR files?
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« Reply #31 on: August 18, 2005, 11:12:55 AM +0100 »

Found it - Spampal decided you were a spammer! I'll get back to you later with comments.

cheers

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« Reply #32 on: August 18, 2005, 11:13:47 AM +0100 »

i'm no spammer!!!  Wink
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« Reply #33 on: August 18, 2005, 11:54:45 AM +0100 »

Had a good scrap with Smoothy and some mild contact where he came back across as I was passing - hard to know what happened as no replay yet.

I was puzzled you'd said this as I didn't remember any contact.
Now I've seen the replay and it confirms my view.
There was no contact and I stayed right to give you room, not being sure of your position.
You could see me.
What's the problem?
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« Reply #34 on: August 18, 2005, 12:32:53 PM +0100 »

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I was puzzled you'd said this as I didn't remember any contact.
Now I've seen the replay and it confirms my view.
There was no contact and I stayed right to give you room, not being sure of your position.
You could see me.
What's the problem?

No problem - from my view at the time your car seemed to be coming across and then bounce back the other way. I've seen the replay now and it shows that this was you steering right to avoid me instead of contact. Wasn't meant to imply any blame btw  Smiley

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« Reply #35 on: August 18, 2005, 01:13:31 PM +0100 »

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I was puzzled you'd said this as I didn't remember any contact.
Now I've seen the replay and it confirms my view.
There was no contact and I stayed right to give you room, not being sure of your position.
You could see me.
What's the problem?

No problem - from my view at the time your car seemed to be coming across and then bounce back the other way. I've seen the replay now and it shows that this was you steering right to avoid me instead of contact. Wasn't meant to imply any blame btw  Smiley

Paul

OK Paul, no problem them.
It's just that I'm a bit touchy about this kind of thing, having been penalised several times.
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« Reply #36 on: August 18, 2005, 05:59:46 PM +0100 »

Hi Guys I only wanted to get a race in with no incidents. I qualified with the default race set up with a couple of mods and ran at the back letting those that wanted to pass me. I was quite pleased with the end result but think the lambo was not a good choice at that circuit.Recon I will be on hols for next 2 weeks but may have a go at an endurance at weekend.I do not know what happened at start but there seemed to be a car going about 10 mph and then dissapearing.bye for now gerald Smiley
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« Reply #37 on: August 18, 2005, 06:46:56 PM +0100 »

This race has left me well pissed  Angry

Spent all morning doing race distance runs off line running between 2.13-2.15 laps comfortably, car was set up nice, the world seemed a great place..........

Just as i was trying some hot laps before i left for work my graphics card started playing up (was getting pink and green thin lines down screen etc  Shocked). Could still drive but the lines were a bit of a distraction and i didn't know if it would get ant worse. Left work 3 hrs early to get back home for 8.30 (got someone to cover for me-didn't tell him why tho!! lol) it had been grating me all day about my graphics card so i got home decided to take my gforce 4 64mb card out my old pc and use that, original card was a 9800 256mb card so the graphics performance dropped massively.........

I qualified 7th with an ok lap (2.14 0r 2.15ish) Apology #1- Sorry to Don1 for a very noobish mistake while joining track from pits, i stopped to let a few cars past, it looked clear as i pulled off on to track i saw a car come and tried to get over the other side of track so car could take natural line exiting en rogue but i was to slow and Don ploughed into me-SORRY

The race started well, got up to 4th and was behind Ginster by 2secs just pacing myself keeping an eye on me tyre temps. Was comfortable, intended to start pushing in the last 10 mins, from what i can remember (haven't watched replay yet)  Ginster was slowish out of en rogue and i got close at end of straight and missed my braking point and spun, losing a couple of places. Apology #2- Then was following Zacari into final hairpin before s/f line, he was guarding inside the legitimately moved left for his line, i tried to do the opposite, and as i was doing so, he was on the brakes and i ended up ramming him, my fault sorry Zacari. Gets going again really pissed at myself, took smoothy on the outside of 1st corner at the end of straight after en rogue and while trying to give him room for second part of those esses i touched the gas and the back end went and slammed into wall puncturing me rear tyre. Apology #3- decided (probably wrongly) to try and get back to the pits, checking constantly if anyone was behind me, saw a car coming (was at the quick double left hander just after first sector) moved onto grass to get out the way and cause tyre was burst it put me into a spin and took out a white viper who i think was (Zip) Tyf, after the havoc i caused i escaped game and banged me head off wall a few times lol. If there is anyone else i caused incident to i apolgise  Roll Eyes

Worst race to date, drove like a complete noob second part of race it could/should have been at least 4th place................Dont think graphics card was entirely to blame (i made a couple of por decesions in race) but it certainly had an affect on my driving and lap times, like whoever it was mentioned about their fps causing them spins i can see where they are coming from.

Excuse this long post have to get last night off me chest lol

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« Reply #38 on: August 18, 2005, 06:59:31 PM +0100 »

Actually for future reference, I'd like some pointers on that pitlane.

If your hot you come right passed the pitlane exit making it very dangerous with just that, but even worse is the "lump" in the pitlane which means that you aint gonna be able to see down Eau Rouge... So you can't see, your coming onto the racing line... Erm...

What I usually do is turn heavily from the left to the right of the pitlane just before reaching the track, but by that point you've had to really slow down so you can do that without going onto the track anyway.

As the pit lane is super long anyway can we be allowed to cut out that hump and drive straight across (obviously not the grass bit). Hopefully this will enable us to see down Eau Rouge right until the last moment.

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« Reply #39 on: August 18, 2005, 07:35:04 PM +0100 »

Don't think it's good to change the 'route'. This is how it is in real life as well I suppose. I use the tab key to have the names showing, then either look to the side or look back plus you can hear a lot when using a headset and usually will know when someone is coming or not. (Looking back with tab on will show players from a far Smiley)

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« Reply #40 on: August 18, 2005, 07:40:09 PM +0100 »

Yeh [TAB] is a good idea, it'd work for qual. When we get to endurance and we're pitting under race conditions, well those corners are quite curvy, your gonna want to get close to that line (comp cars seem to cut it a lot), and close to the tires... It's going to be hard to look back...
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« Reply #41 on: August 18, 2005, 10:33:52 PM +0100 »

Yup, but will make for some awesome replay action though Wink!

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« Reply #42 on: August 18, 2005, 10:38:03 PM +0100 »

It happened again, and now I'm convinced it isn't just me. Not a bad qual lap having had no real practice, but spun on the power at the bus stop, with no warning and no chance to collect, and I wasn't even trying that hard. I'm coming to the conclusion that as the frame rate drops (as it always does on lap 1) the control inputs lose their smoothness - my motec trace on that lap shows an almost vertical line power appication, but I don't do that for obvious reasons! All these spins on lap 1 with hardly any at other times can't be a coincidence (can it?).

Think you could be right. I remember I found the game easier to play after I upgraded, and I stopped spinning so much.
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« Reply #43 on: August 19, 2005, 07:23:54 PM +0100 »

It happened again, and now I'm convinced it isn't just me. Not a bad qual lap having had no real practice, but spun on the power at the bus stop, with no warning and no chance to collect, and I wasn't even trying that hard. I'm coming to the conclusion that as the frame rate drops (as it always does on lap 1) the control inputs lose their smoothness - my motec trace on that lap shows an almost vertical line power appication, but I don't do that for obvious reasons! All these spins on lap 1 with hardly any at other times can't be a coincidence (can it?).

Think you could be right. I remember I found the game easier to play after I upgraded, and I stopped spinning so much.

Paul if ya havent read my post, i mentioned i swapped my ati 9800 256mb(playing up-started getting pink and green lines down screen) for my old nvidia geforce 4 64mb card, i reckon i was 2 secs a lap slower around spa with nvidia card(would point out i was using ati card offline and nvidia online, i seem to get better times off line, that maybe a factor in losing some of the time) but it certainly makes a big differece to car control using a less powerful graphics card- UPGRADE m8

I am currently looking to buy a new graphics card in the region of £200, if any1 has any ideas or suggestions of what to get im all ears Smiley
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« Reply #44 on: August 19, 2005, 07:38:51 PM +0100 »

thx m8 - I know I need to upgrade but funds are very limited atm (SWMBO). If I can find a cheap processor upgrade then I might do that, as my XP 1600 is hardly state of the art and a 2100 might give me 20% more for about 20 quid.

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