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  • L6E Watkins Glen: August 28, 2008
August 28, 2008, 08:41:26 PM +0100 - Watkins Glen (Boot) - UKGTL Season 6 Season 6 Classic Endurance
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Madd-RIP
 Team RVS
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#202953) GTC-TC-76 3 +0.699
103.309mph
1 1:18:57.945
100.056mph
39 1:57.826
103.164mph
Avon  
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#202953) GTC-TC-76 1 1:56.962
103.926mph
2 +0.165
100.053mph
39 1:57.489
103.460mph
Avon  
pribeiro
 Ghostspeed
BMW CSL Schnitzer (#870) GTC-TC-76 5 +1.026
103.022mph
3 +15.093
99.738mph
39 1:58.070
102.951mph
Dunlop  
Phil Gilliland
 Team Pseudo Racing
Porsche 911 RSR 3.0 (#81) GTC-TC-76 9 +2.604
101.663mph
4 +1:15.364
98.490mph
39 2:01.017
100.444mph
Goodyear  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
DeTomaso Pantera (#84) GTC-TC-76 5 +1:21.680
98.360mph
39 1:57.933
103.070mph
Avon  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#89) GTC-TC-76 12 +2.803
101.494mph
6 +1:59.056
97.604mph
39 2:01.233
100.265mph
Avon  
Legzy
 Team Oldie Racing
Porsche 906 (#201441) GTC-TC-76 10 +2.689
101.590mph
7 +2:01.486
97.555mph
39 2:00.869
100.567mph
Michelin  
evert blommert
 Dutch Turtles
Porsche 906 (#30) GTC-TC-76 15 +4.352
100.198mph
8 +1L
97.144mph
38 2:00.531
100.849mph
Michelin  
spanner
 Prodigy Racing
Porsche 911 RSR 3.0 (#853) GTC-TC-76 23 +10.140
95.635mph
9 +18.809
96.762mph
38 2:00.642
100.756mph
Goodyear  
GardO
 
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#89) GTC-TC-76 19 +5.479
99.276mph
10 +54.344
96.047mph
38 1:58.852
102.273mph
Avon  
Sandor M
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#89) GTC-TC-76 18 +5.286
99.432mph
11 +1:02.532
95.883mph
38 2:01.666
99.908mph
Avon  
[POOdle]Keith
 
DeTomaso Pantera (#86) GTC-TC-76 20 +5.623
99.159mph
12 +1:19.085
95.555mph
38 2:03.333
98.558mph
Avon  
Ade
 Kerb Crawlers
Ford Escort RS (#74) GTC-TC-76 21 +6.386
98.546mph
13 +1:44.145
95.062mph
38 2:03.173
98.686mph
Avon  
Spadowski
 Prodigy Racing
Porsche 906 (#205705) GTC-TC-76 14 +2L
92.927mph
37 2:01.931
99.691mph
Michelin  
BillThomas
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 906 (#30) GTC-TC-76 16 +4.739
99.879mph
15 +16.883
92.604mph
37 2:03.408
98.498mph
Michelin  
phspok
 
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#89) GTC-TC-76 6 +1.395
102.701mph
16 +3L
92.116mph
36 2:00.464
100.905mph
Avon  
Stewprovo
 Kerb Crawlers
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#202953) GTC-TC-76 17 +4L
89.577mph
35 2:03.834
98.159mph
Avon  
TinMan
 Team Oldie Racing
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#201455) GTC-TC-76 11 +2.749
101.540mph
18 35 2:00.790
100.632mph
unknown
Avon  
Steve Holmes
 Legends Racing
BMW CSL Alpina (#87) GTC-TC-76 17 +4.900
99.747mph
19 +13L 26 2:02.180
99.488mph
unknown
Dunlop  
stnasky
 Team RVS
Porsche 911 RSR 3.0 (#853) GTC-TC-76 7 +1.885
102.278mph
20 +15L 24 1:58.469
102.604mph
unknown
Goodyear  
mr_oily
 Prodigy Racing
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#205722) GTC-TC-76 4 +0.978
103.064mph
21 +21L 18 2:00.967
100.485mph
suspension
Avon  
Oilseal
 Team Oldie Racing
Porsche 906 (#201441) GTC-TC-76 22 +7.679
97.523mph
22 +31L 8 2:07.054
95.671mph
unknown
Michelin  
Truetom
 Legends Racing
DeTomaso Pantera (#200891) GTC-TC-76 8 +2.268
101.949mph
23 +34L 5 2:01.549
100.004mph
unknown
Avon  
Wiltshire Tony
 Prodigy Racing
DeTomaso Pantera (#205797) GTC-TC-76 14 +3.508
100.900mph
24 +38L 1 2:55.245
69.362mph
unknown
Avon  
baracus250gt
 Ghostspeed
DeTomaso Pantera (#80) GTC-TC-76 2 +0.688
103.318mph
+39L 0 ---
---
unknown
Avon  
ossie
 
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#89) GTC-TC-76 13 +3.122
101.224mph
0 ---
---
suspension
Avon  

Moderator's Report

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Baracus suffers some pedal problems on entering grid but does everything in his power to avoid an incident and escapes to pit before start of race. No blame can reasonably be apportioned here but it does serve as a reminder to all of the inherent dangers of mixing standing starts and possible technical problems. With hindsight, Baracus would have escaped earlier and we all should learn from his misfortune here.

Rather than look and report the mainly sensible reactions of all those involved in the ensuing choas our (a number of mods have been involved)general overview and some resulting conclusions follows.

Standing starts are inherently dangerous but, even with the unusual and unfortunate events seen as Watkins Glen, there are steps we can all take to limit the damage. At first sign of trouble on the grid you must slow, by blending off the throttle and if unavoidable braking, thus giving yourself every opportunity to react. Here, the vast majority of the grid followed these common sense rules and should be commended. However one or two appeared to ignore them and simply carried on accelerating as normal with inevitable results. I say "appeared" because the replays only show the action and not any other circumstances that may be involved and therefore they have been given the benefit of the doubt this time.

With their undoubted popularity, we will continue with standing starts but only with certain provisos. No benefit of doubt will be given to those who do not appear, we will rely on replay eveidence alone, to take all reasonable care in the future and the harshest possible penalties, within our rules, will be given out. 'Other circumstances' cannot be taken into consideration for future offences. We feel these steps are necessary and reasonable as such actions ruin hours of preparation and racing unnecessarily for others.

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« Reply #135 on: August 30, 2008, 11:48:17 PM +0100 »

Cheers Geoffers, I spotted in the replay that you hung round while I was sorting myself out. Thanks for that, but watching the replay, you earned the position. Your driving was of exceptional standard, me driving beyond my limits really made your job even harder & you did it brilliantly while driving like a gent. A pleasure to race.  Cool
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« Reply #136 on: August 31, 2008, 03:13:41 PM +0100 »

To answer all this rolling start/standing start nonsense please watch Race 1 and Race 2 of todays WTCC race

Priceless.

And they get paid for it too. We do it just for fun.

Biggest laugh was John Cleland blaming the track designer


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« Reply #137 on: August 31, 2008, 03:23:03 PM +0100 »

Lol, I saw it. Carnage, even worse than ours.  Cheesy  Standing starts stay.  Wink
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« Reply #138 on: August 31, 2008, 06:34:11 PM +0100 »

*heads off to download WTCC race*
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