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August 21, 2008, 08:57:25 PM +0100 - Oulton Park (Island) - UKGTL Season 6 Season 6 GT Classics Cup
Driver
 Team		 Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Steve Holmes
 Legends Racing		 Ford Mustang (#892) TC-65 D2 3 +0.055
80.829mph		 1 38:10.386
79.442mph		 23 1:38.292
80.485mph
Dunlop  
Dan Minton
 Team RVS		 Lotus Cortina (#955) TC-65 D2 1 1:37.818
80.875mph		 2 +1.161
79.402mph		 23 1:37.948
80.767mph
Dunlop  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers		 Ford Falcon (#872) TC-65 D2 2 +0.032
80.848mph		 3 +4.553
79.285mph		 23 1:38.329
80.454mph
Dunlop  
GardO
 		 Ford Mustang (#896) TC-65 D2 8 +1.071
79.999mph		 4 +16.520
78.873mph		 23 1:38.972
79.932mph
Dunlop  
Truetom
 Legends Racing		 Ford Falcon (#200803) TC-65 D2 9 +1.112
79.966mph		 5 +18.522
78.805mph		 23 1:38.714
80.141mph
Dunlop  
baracus250gt
 Ghostspeed		 Ford Mustang (#896) TC-65 D2 4 +0.064
80.822mph		 6 +20.417
78.740mph		 23 1:38.302
80.477mph
Dunlop  
mr_oily
 Prodigy Racing		 Lotus Cortina (#205702) TC-65 D2 6 +0.304
80.624mph		 7 +28.542
78.464mph		 23 1:38.233
80.533mph
Dunlop  
pribeiro
 Ghostspeed		 Lotus Cortina (#924) TC-65 D2 11 +1.240
79.862mph		 8 +28.933
78.451mph		 23 1:39.455
79.544mph
Dunlop  
stnasky
 Team RVS		 Ford Mustang (#890) TC-65 D2 5 +0.296
80.631mph		 9 +29.655
78.427mph		 23 1:38.708
80.146mph
Dunlop  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers		 Ford Falcon (#825) TC-65 D2 10 +1.140
79.943mph		 10 +1:10.569
77.068mph		 23 1:39.203
79.746mph
Dunlop  
Blunder
 Team Oldie Racing		 Lotus Cortina (#201421) TC-65 D2 16 +2.033
79.228mph		 11 +1:19.036
76.792mph		 23 1:40.280
78.889mph
Dunlop  
Ade
 Kerb Crawlers		 Lotus Cortina (#913) TC-65 D2 12 +1.577
79.592mph		 12 +1:19.226
76.786mph		 23 1:39.724
79.329mph
Dunlop  
evert blommert
 Dutch Turtles		 Lotus Cortina (#961) TC-65 D2 18 +2.468
78.884mph		 13 (+2) +1:35.460
76.264mph		 23 1:40.780
78.498mph
Dunlop  
spanner
 Prodigy Racing		 Lotus Cortina (#205702) TC-65 D2 14 +1.705
79.489mph		 14 +1:55.243
75.636mph		 23 1:40.282
78.888mph
Dunlop  
Legzy
 Team Oldie Racing		 Lotus Cortina (#201421) TC-65 D2 21 +3.749
77.890mph		 15 +1L
75.551mph		 22 1:41.325
78.076mph
Dunlop  
API
 		 Lotus Cortina (#924) TC-65 D2 24 +5.106
76.863mph		 16 +21.970
74.837mph		 22 1:42.137
77.455mph
Dunlop  
Alex vV
 Gentlemen Drivers Club		 Ford Falcon (#872) TC-65 D2 23 +4.752
77.128mph		 17 +26.482
74.693mph		 22 1:42.807
76.950mph
Dunlop  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing		 Ford Falcon (#825) TC-65 D2 20 +3.574
78.024mph		 18 22 1:39.732
79.323mph		 suspension
Dunlop  
Spadowski
 		 Ford Mustang (#890) TC-65 D2 26 +6.395
75.912mph		 19 +2L
71.479mph		 21 1:42.242
77.375mph
Dunlop  
jimmer
 		 Ford Falcon (#872) TC-65 D2 25 +5.914
76.264mph		 20 +24.818
70.724mph		 21 1:44.890
75.422mph
Dunlop  
Sandor M
 Gentlemen Drivers Club		 Ford Falcon (#872) TC-65 D2 15 +1.849
79.374mph		 21 +4L 19 1:40.972
78.349mph		 suspension
Dunlop  
Tibernius
 Prodigy Racing		 Ford Mustang (#809) TC-65 D2 19 +3.009
78.461mph		 22 +10L 13 1:43.244
76.624mph		 unknown
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Prodigy Racing		 Ford Mustang (#892) TC-65 D2 17 +2.071
79.198mph		 23 +13L 10 1:41.084
78.262mph		 unknown
Dunlop  
psuedo
 Team Pseudo Racing		 Lotus Cortina (#205266) TC-65 D2 13 +1.608
79.567mph		 24 +15L 8 1:41.293
78.100mph		 unknown
Dunlop  
BillThomas
 Kerb Crawlers		 Ford Mustang (#809) TC-65 D2 22 +4.277
77.487mph		 25 +18L 5 1:43.106
76.727mph		 suspension
Dunlop  
phspok
 		 Ford Falcon (#872) TC-65 D2 7 +0.887
80.148mph		 +23L 0 ---
---		 unknown
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 206s

Spanner passes Sandor at the hairpin but the Falcons power sees Sandor back infront by the braking zone for the chicane.
Sandor does move back over to the racing line a little too soon and almost imediately has to hit the brakes for the turn. This gave Spanner little or no time to react and the inevitable rear contact occured.
This incident would have been avoidable if Sandor had stayed on the line he had passed on and not moved back over to the racing line directly in front of Spanner.

Server replay time: 862s

Dan is lapping Jimmer (racepace) and catches him on the aproach to the hairpin. Dan goes to the right to make the pass but Jimmer seems to lose the rear end of his car slightly and this sends him to the right also.
Just an unfortunate event that ended with no harm done to either party.

Racing incident.

  • Racing incident

Server replay time: 897s

Sandor, in a falcon, was much faster down the s/f straight than Legzy but did not gain quite enough on him to attempt a pass before T1. Sandor seemed to realise this a little late and hit the brakes in an attempt to avoid contact, but he had left it a little late and clipped the rear quarter of Legzy's car.
No damage was done and Legzy kept his place.

Server replay time: 1047s

Not quite as simple this one.
Again Sandor is faster aproaching the chicane and brakes slightly later to get on the inside of Legzy. Whilst this move was possibly not the ideal place to try an outbraking manouver in a Falcon vs a 'Tina, Sandor does actually get around 1/3 overlap legitimately and therefore has every right to be where he was.
Legzy actually moves right, almost blocking Sandors move, a fair bit earlier than he has done on previous or following laps and turns onto the apex normally leaving no room whatsoever for Sandor and forcing him into the tyre wall.
**NOTE**
Passing and being passed appoaching corners, the critical moment is the turn in point, not the braking point. The earlier the overlap the better, of course, but if the intent is telegraphed with an early move and a reasonable overlap achieved before the lead car gets to the point where it has to turn in, that should be good enough in a gentlemanly racing environment.

  • Legzy — caution — Closing the door on a car with overlap
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded

Server replay time: 1344s

Racepace is being lapped by Ade (who gives him a nudge in the chicane). Rp accelerates away normally and starts to move to the right when he realises Ade is still there, so he straightens up and lifts slightly to allow the slower accelerating car through.
This move caught Syd a little by suprise and he tagged the rear of RP's car sending him onto the grass. Syd then moves wide and accelerates away but unfortunately gets a wheel on the grass which sends him into a spin. Both Geoffers and RP are close and have to slow substantially to avoid Syd's car.
Evert is aproaching up the hill under full acceleration but shows no sign (no lift/braking etc) of any awareness or caution to the incident ahead and runs full tilt into the back of RP.

Racepace, whilst trying to do the right thing by assisting a lapping car through, caused a few other problems with his actions. ONLY lift off when it is safe to do so....unfortunately, the lapping car will just have to wait :)

Upto then I would consider this a racing incident.
However Evert's lack of caution must be penalised...regardless of who may be the initial cause of an incident you CANNOT aproach an incident under full throttle causing additional mayhem.

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« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2008, 08:35:35 PM +0100 »
Hi to all

another Dave here  Shocked

having just registered, i'd like to join in a few races with you guys to get to know you, and as there is a race this coming thursday, i thought i might jump in at the deep end.

no need to panic just yet,i'm not a noob, i already run in gbsimracing leagues in Race07 and GTL, and i also run in a few simjunkies leagues too,involving GTL,GTR2,Race07 and rFactor so i am up to speed on close pack racing.

look forward to seeing you on track guys, be gentle with me,lol

Dave Gardner

oops,forgot to mention that my race name is very original lol

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« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2008, 09:38:09 PM +0100 »
Welcome Dave, see you on the track  Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2008, 10:13:56 PM +0100 »
Good to see you here Dave, have fun.
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« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2008, 10:49:27 PM +0100 »
Welcome Dave. Look forward to crashing into you twice a week from now on Smiley

I wouldn't like to see a more grippy version of this track, as its all to easy to get on 3 wheels through that nice sweeping left hander  Smiley Luvverly track and just about broke into the 47's offline. Nice choice Steve, hope to see plenty of Stangs (Dave? Grin) out there. I'll be in the Falcon by the way.
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« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2008, 07:40:21 AM +0100 »
Well much to my delight I CAN CONNECT! Lotus is too twitchy (rolled it on first lap) so I went Mustang. Will probably take that. One thing: I've got a sound glitch. I can hear where it loops as it goes quiet for a split second. Very annoying. Anyone know how to fix it?

Anyway, I will hopefully be there on Thursday, in the Mustang, trying not to ruin peoples races!
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« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2008, 08:06:07 AM +0100 »
Quote from: Spadowski on August 20, 2008, 07:40:21 AM +0100
Well much to my delight I CAN CONNECT! Lotus is too twitchy (rolled it on first lap) so I went Mustang. Will probably take that. One thing: I've got a sound glitch. I can hear where it loops as it goes quiet for a split second. Very annoying. Anyone know how to fix it?

Anyway, I will hopefully be there on Thursday, in the Mustang, trying not to ruin peoples races!

Good news Smiley.

I have no idea how to fix those soundsproblems, you can however download and try these sounds:

http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=3878

They sound better than original, so you might hit 2 birds with 1 stone Grin
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« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2008, 08:42:47 AM +0100 »
Quote from: Spadowski on August 20, 2008, 07:40:21 AM +0100
Well much to my delight I CAN CONNECT! Lotus is too twitchy (rolled it on first lap) so I went Mustang. Will probably take that. One thing: I've got a sound glitch. I can hear where it loops as it goes quiet for a split second. Very annoying. Anyone know how to fix it?

Anyway, I will hopefully be there on Thursday, in the Mustang, trying not to ruin peoples races!
Can you describe the "looping" sound? That would be helpfull. Have you checked the volume levels in game?
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« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2008, 08:46:13 AM +0100 »
Calling all late nighters
Online praccy @ 10:30(ish) tonight, highest standards of gentlemanly conduct expected (not).
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« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2008, 09:35:22 AM +0100 »
The looping? Basically as I accelerate the sound plays, then there's a glitch, which I guess is where the sound loops, and so on. It's really hard to describe.

I will try the new sounds. I fiddled with my sound acceleration as it was on basic and it made no difference.
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« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2008, 09:39:09 AM +0100 »
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Calling all late nighters
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This getting a regular meet!? Such fun! Count me in!  Grin
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« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2008, 09:44:41 AM +0100 »
Replacement sounds seem to have fixed the issue. THANKS!

As for the meeting, if I'm around I'll try and make it, but the eldest's birthday trip to Toys'r'Us is probably today so I might not be around.
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« Reply #26 on: August 20, 2008, 09:53:10 AM +0100 »
Quote from: Spadowski on August 20, 2008, 09:44:41 AM +0100
the eldest's birthday trip to Toys'r'Us is probably today

Dunno about anyone else but I'm actually quite jealous. I miss that place. Grin
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« Reply #27 on: August 20, 2008, 10:32:22 AM +0100 »
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I wouldn't like to see a more grippy version of this track, as its all to easy to get on 3 wheels through that nice sweeping left hander  Smiley Luvverly track and just about broke into the 47's offline. Nice choice Steve, hope to see plenty of Stangs (Dave? Grin) out there. I'll be in the Falcon by the way.

Yeah, Falcon vs Mustang is always interesting, the Falcon is a little quicker on one lap but the Mustang is just that bit more consistent, better on its tyres, stronger at the end.

We are running the more grippy version - dunno why the author upped the grip from 1 to 1.16, it does lead to the car lifting quite a lot rather than sliding. That and the big kerbs, there could be some 2-wheel stunt driving on Thursday.

Welcome to Dave, hope you enjoy this one, I'm sure everyone will be eager to swap paint stories with you.  Smiley
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« Reply #28 on: August 20, 2008, 10:46:54 AM +0100 »
Quote from: Martin 'Blunder!' Mason on August 20, 2008, 09:39:09 AM +0100
Quote from: Wiltshire Tony on August 20, 2008, 08:46:13 AM +0100
Calling all late nighters
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This getting a regular meet!? Such fun! Count me in!  Grin

See you online about 10:30 then. Be there or be square.  Wink
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« Reply #29 on: August 20, 2008, 11:11:40 AM +0100 »
With the car choices....3 boxes on wheels....you can't help but be square Grin.

I will hopefully be there tonight...not decided on a car yet...the lotus is well slow here compared to the other choices...Mustang is a handfull that bites hard and Falcon is the fastest so most folk will be in it.  Undecided

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