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  • L6S Thruxton: September 04, 2008
September 04, 2008, 08:52:12 PM +0100 - Thruxton - UKGTL Season 6 Season 6 GT Classics Cup
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
AC Cobra 427 (#859) GTC-65 1 1:25.530
97.709mph
1 39:32.157
95.120mph
27 1:26.152
97.003mph
Dunlop  
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
AC Cobra 427 (#859) GTC-65 2 +0.255
97.418mph
2 +16.200
94.475mph
27 1:26.139
97.018mph
Dunlop  
baracus250gt
 Ghostspeed
Lotus Elan 26R (#653) GTC-65 8 +2.052
95.419mph
3 +27.860
94.016mph
27 1:27.093
95.955mph
Dunlop  
stnasky
 Team RVS
Lotus Elan 26R (#202955) GTC-65 6 +1.141
96.422mph
4 +28.992
93.971mph
27 1:26.466
96.651mph
Dunlop  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
AC Cobra 427 (#859) GTC-65 4 +0.848
96.749mph
5 +30.678
93.905mph
27 1:27.363
95.659mph
Dunlop  
Lorenzo Galluzzi
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
AC Cobra 427 (#859) GTC-65 11 +2.360
95.085mph
6 +50.563
93.135mph
27 1:26.705
96.384mph
Dunlop  
Ade
 Kerb Crawlers
Lotus Elan 26R (#601) GTC-65 7 +1.368
96.170mph
7 +58.394
92.835mph
27 1:28.215
94.735mph
Dunlop  
phspok
 
Lotus Elan 26R (#601) GTC-65 9 +2.083
95.386mph
8 +59.423
92.795mph
27 1:27.956
95.014mph
Dunlop  
pribeiro
 Ghostspeed
Lotus Elan 26R (#621) GTC-65 17 +3.642
93.718mph
9 (+4) +59.748
92.783mph
27 1:27.552
95.452mph
Dunlop  
Truetom
 Legends Racing
AC Cobra 427 (#200868) GTC-65 18 +3.719
93.637mph
10 +1:18.812
92.061mph
27 1:28.701
94.216mph
Dunlop  
spanner
 Prodigy Racing
Lotus Elan 26R (#205707) GTC-65 14 +2.927
94.475mph
11 +1L
91.347mph
26 1:28.438
94.496mph
Dunlop  
Blunder
 Team Oldie Racing
AC Cobra 427 (#859) GTC-65 15 +3.200
94.185mph
12 +20.494
90.567mph
26 1:29.556
93.316mph
Dunlop  
mr_oily
 Prodigy Racing
Lotus Elan 26R (#205707) GTC-65 5 +0.899
96.692mph
13 +23.666
90.448mph
26 1:26.997
96.061mph
Dunlop  
Spadowski
 Prodigy Racing
Lotus Elan 26R (#205707) GTC-65 26 +12.522
85.230mph
14 +26.397
90.345mph
26 1:30.398
92.447mph
Dunlop  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Lotus Elan 26R (#602) GTC-65 10 +2.191
95.268mph
15 +28.012
90.284mph
26 1:28.143
94.812mph
Dunlop  
Sandor M
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Lotus Elan 26R (#205504) GTC-65 19 +4.919
92.395mph
16 +30.574
90.188mph
26 1:30.116
92.736mph
Dunlop  
Phil Gilliland
 Team Pseudo Racing
Lotus Elan 26R (#653) GTC-65 12 +2.619
94.806mph
17 +35.922
89.988mph
26 1:29.499
93.376mph
Dunlop  
GardO
 Kerb Crawlers
AC Cobra 427 (#859) GTC-65 13 +2.662
94.759mph
18 +2L
87.554mph
25 1:28.279
94.666mph
Dunlop  
Legzy
 Team Oldie Racing
Lotus Elan 26R (#201488) GTC-65 16 +3.510
93.857mph
19 +43.515
85.986mph
25 1:29.643
93.226mph
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Prodigy Racing
TVR Griffith 400 (#205798) GTC-65 22 +5.395
91.911mph
20 (+2) +1:23.088
84.608mph
25 1:30.365
92.481mph
Dunlop  
Steve Holmes
 Legends Racing
AC Cobra 427 (#200868) GTC-65 3 +0.767
96.840mph
21 +4L 23 1:26.495
96.618mph
suspension
Dunlop  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing
Lotus Elan 26R (#653) GTC-65 21 +5.193
92.116mph
22 +14L 13 1:30.199
92.651mph
DQ
Dunlop  
Alex vV
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Lotus Elan 26R (#205504) GTC-65 23 +5.759
91.545mph
23 +24L 3 1:31.711
91.123mph
unknown
Dunlop  
BillThomas
 Kerb Crawlers
Lotus Elan 26R (#610) GTC-65 24 +6.539
90.769mph
+27L 0 ---
---
unknown
Dunlop  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing
Lotus Elan 26R (#653) GTC-65 20 +5.064
92.247mph
DNS ---
---
Dunlop  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Lotus Elan 26R (#200861) GTC-65 25 +10.673
86.869mph
---
---
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 49s

Pribeiro gets an excellent start and fairly gains a couple of places into T1. He then brakes far later than those around, who are taking the necessary careful approach, clatters into the back of Phil Gilliland and spins him.

TT does all he can, but has no chance of avoiding Phil and unluckily hits him.


Server replay time: 53s

Pribeiro then proceeds to clatter into the back of Martin Mason midway through T1. As with the earlier incident, Martin is spun around.

PR did mention he was suffering with internet problems in forums but makes no mention of such problems in his incident report. This would explain his actions here, as these incidents are certainly out of character for him, and all of us. I'm pretty sure this was the underlying cause of these incidents and serves as a reminder to us all to quit at the first sign of connection problems.


Server replay time: 53s

Most avoid the trouble caused into T1 by PR (or his internet connection), however Syd Drake and Wiltshire Tony do make contact with other cars. They both certainly make efforts to avoid trouble but maybe could have done more.

As the blame lies elsewhere, penalties are not warrented but I feel a plea to show even more care is fair.


Server replay time: 141s

Wilstshire Tony spins coming into the chicane and ends up facing the traffic just off the right side of the traffic. Despite the fact he could see cars arriving at high speed, he attempts a very risky spin manoeuvre, from grass to middle of the track. Luckily the first upon the scene avoid him but Sandor is taken by surprise and hits him.

Whilst, arguably, the contact could have been avoided, hence the maximum penalty will not be given, the rejoin was certainly dangerous. Tony should have waited until all had passed or used the grass, so similar dangerous rejoins must be discouraged.


Server replay time: 346s

Dave (GardO) runs wide into T1 of the complex and Matt (phspok), in his nimble Elan, resultantly closes right up coming out of the complex. However, he barely gets his bonnet level with the rear of Dave's Cobra so a passing attempt is really not on and Dave had every right to defend the corner. I'm not sure if Matt was attempting a pass but he does rather unncessarily run into the back of Dave and spins him off.

To give Matt his dues, it was he who reported this incident and, because Dave has entered no views on this incident, I presume he wants no penalty applied.


Server replay time: 412s

Dave (GardoO) catches back up to Matt (phspok) by the time they reach the chicane. Dave gets a far better exit and seems suprised how quickly he gains on the slower Elan, in his Cobra. He does try to avoid the back of Matt but just clips his flank and rather unluckily sends Matt off.

Matt does not want a penalty applied and Dave stops and waits for him after making the mistake, which should be commended. Therefore no penalty is necessary.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GT Legends
GTC-65
1:25.530
97.709mph
Jeffrey
Qualifying
AC Cobra 427September 04, 2008, 08:52:12 PM +0100
L6S
GT Legends
GTC-65
1:26.139
97.018mph
Dan Minton
Race
AC Cobra 427September 04, 2008, 08:52:12 PM +0100
L6S
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« Reply #30 on: September 03, 2008, 05:22:25 PM +0100 »

I'll post my setup later if it will help. No real secrets in there, but brake bias is a little more forward than other cars for me, say 57/43. If you're struggling in braking zones try using highest gearing which helps to settle the rear end for me. I learnt the track that way but I'm pretty sure lowest gearing is fastest even though it runs out on back straight.
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« Reply #31 on: September 03, 2008, 06:28:14 PM +0100 »

This track appeals to as much as Dubai does to Steve.  yawn
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« Reply #32 on: September 03, 2008, 08:16:40 PM +0100 »

This is a hard track to learn. I've not had problems learning a track like this in years. I usually learn stuff quick. For example in GTR Evolution I drove Curitiba for the first time and had the track memorized in about 5 laps. Thruxton I've done at least five times that and have yet to actually finish a lap without going off.

Frustrating.
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« Reply #33 on: September 03, 2008, 08:30:40 PM +0100 »

Starting to get some consistency either side of 27 now, but mistakes cost dearly here where you need to keep up momentum.  It's going to be awesomely tiring work for 40 minutes.  Tongue

I've uploaded my Cobra setup to the online files for Thruxton if anyone wants to try it, it works for me.  Like Ginsters I'm on the high gearing, little more controlled and I think the Cobra has enough torque not to need redlining all the time.
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« Reply #34 on: September 03, 2008, 09:56:27 PM +0100 »

                    This is the only way i can hit the apexes Grin

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« Reply #35 on: September 03, 2008, 10:07:08 PM +0100 »

Finally got the circuit memorised. Slow as hell but I know where I am now.

Which of course makes it an almost certainty I will miss the race now.
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« Reply #36 on: September 03, 2008, 10:53:30 PM +0100 »

I noticed tomight that the server was running with auto gears enabled and you automatically have it enabled.
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« Reply #37 on: September 03, 2008, 11:26:12 PM +0100 »

We know...dont worry about it.  Smiley
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« Reply #38 on: September 04, 2008, 05:19:04 AM +0100 »

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« Reply #39 on: September 04, 2008, 08:17:14 AM +0100 »

Just in case anybody missed it, this was announced after the Watkins Glen race

Standing starts are inherently dangerous but, even with the unusual and unfortunate events seen as Watkins Glen, there are steps we can all take to limit the damage. At first sign of trouble on the grid you must slow, by blending off the throttle and if unavoidable braking, thus giving yourself every opportunity to react. Here, the vast majority of the grid followed these common sense rules and should be commended. However one or two appeared to ignore them and simply carried on accelerating as normal with inevitable results. I say "appeared" because the replays only show the action and not any other circumstances that may be involved and therefore they have been given the benefit of the doubt this time.

With their undoubted popularity, we will continue with standing starts but only with certain provisos. No benefit of doubt will be given to those who do not appear, we will rely on replay evidence alone, to take all reasonable care in the future and the harshest possible penalties, within our rules, will be given out. 'Other circumstances' cannot be taken into consideration for future offences. We feel these steps are necessary and reasonable as such actions ruin hours of preparation and racing unnecessarily for others.


I'm sure there will be no repeat here Smiley That said, right from the off I feared this track might cause problems due to its massively high average speed. Its a test for all of us this one so lets be careful out there.
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« Reply #40 on: September 04, 2008, 09:08:29 AM +0100 »

Yep I hear ya mate, the potential for disaster is high enough on your own let alone with a field full!

Cheers Steve/ Ian btw, will have a run out with those setups tonight just in case but I think it's probably a technique thing my end. The fast stuff is fine and lots of fun, but braking down for the chicanes I'm just permanently fighting tank slappers - I think it's those extra pies affecting my weight transfer.  drool
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« Reply #41 on: September 04, 2008, 10:24:55 AM +0100 »

Just in case anybody missed it, this was announced after the Watkins Glen race

Standing starts are inherently dangerous but, even with the unusual and unfortunate events seen as Watkins Glen, there are steps we can all take to limit the damage. At first sign of trouble on the grid you must slow, by blending off the throttle and if unavoidable braking, thus giving yourself every opportunity to react. Here, the vast majority of the grid followed these common sense rules and should be commended. However one or two appeared to ignore them and simply carried on accelerating as normal with inevitable results. I say "appeared" because the replays only show the action and not any other circumstances that may be involved and therefore they have been given the benefit of the doubt this time.

With their undoubted popularity, we will continue with standing starts but only with certain provisos. No benefit of doubt will be given to those who do not appear, we will rely on replay evidence alone, to take all reasonable care in the future and the harshest possible penalties, within our rules, will be given out. 'Other circumstances' cannot be taken into consideration for future offences. We feel these steps are necessary and reasonable as such actions ruin hours of preparation and racing unnecessarily for others.


I'm sure there will be no repeat here Smiley That said, right from the off I feared this track might cause problems due to its massively high average speed. Its a test for all of us this one so lets be careful out there.
Yep I hear ya mate, the potential for disaster is high enough on your own let alone with a field full!

Cheers Steve/ Ian btw, will have a run out with those setups tonight just in case but I think it's probably a technique thing my end. The fast stuff is fine and lots of fun, but braking down for the chicanes I'm just permanently fighting tank slappers - I think it's those extra pies affecting my weight transfer.  drool

i think we should all keep it in 1st gear then,mind you,saying that,i can get just as out of shape in 1st as i can in top lol Shocked
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« Reply #42 on: September 04, 2008, 02:05:24 PM +0100 »

Just don't try to brake really late Oily, early gradual braking seems best.  Wink

Oh and a warning to all Elan drivers out there (particularly if you've not tried the Cobra), there is a distinct possibility you may see Cobras (and possibly TVRs) taking very odd lines, be ready to take evasive, this isn't a ploy to keep you behind.  Cheesy  In fact if you lock a wheel you can't correct the Cobra without a high risk of spinning.  You have to let the Cobra go where it wants and get the speed down before wrestling control back.  Here more than most tracks the Cobra is like a bucking bronco and likes to have its own way. Steering is little more than a suggestion to the car where it should go.  Grin
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« Reply #43 on: September 04, 2008, 02:19:20 PM +0100 »

Oh and a warning to all Elan drivers out there (particularly if you've not tried the Cobra), there is a distinct possibility you may see Cobras (and possibly TVRs) taking very odd lines, be ready to take evasive, this isn't a ploy to keep you behind.  Cheesy  In fact if you lock a wheel you can't correct the Cobra without a high risk of spinning.  You have to let the Cobra go where it wants and get the speed down before wrestling control back.  Here more than most tracks the Cobra is like a bucking bronco and likes to have its own way. Steering is little more than a suggestion to the car where it should go.  Grin

With all that in mind, the Cobra (& to an extent the TVR) would be an odd choice to drive  Huh

I tried it (Cobra) & after starting about 30 separate laps I couldn't register a single laptime.
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« Reply #44 on: September 04, 2008, 02:24:01 PM +0100 »

It's the challenge I think. Or just pure unadulterated masochism.  Delete as appropriate.

Occasionally you do actually get a clean lap. Smiley
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