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  • U8LE Valencia: August 10, 2008
August 10, 2008, 08:38:30 PM +0100 - Valencia (GP) - UKGTR Season 8 Lower Endurance (GT3)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Busi
 Team Pseudo Racing
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#770052) GT3 1 1:36.284
92.276mph
1 1:20:26.673
88.356mph
48 1:36.771
91.812mph
Dunlop  
Joss
 Team Shark
Nissan 350Z (#990001) GT3 2 +0.335
91.956mph
2 +9.559
88.182mph
48 1:37.069
91.530mph
Dunlop  
Truetom
 Legends Racing
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#940008) GT3 6 +0.821
91.496mph
3 +21.725
87.960mph
48 1:37.348
91.268mph
Dunlop  
purdie
 Racin24-7
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#4100) GT3 3 +0.553
91.749mph
4 +35.310
87.714mph
48 1:37.844
90.805mph
Dunlop  
Reign Man
 Team Pseudo Racing
BMW Z3M (#610052) GT3 11 +1.291
91.055mph
5 +36.119
87.700mph
48 1:37.506
91.120mph
Dunlop  
Gazza49er
 Team Pseudo Racing
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#770052) GT3 5 +0.739
91.573mph
6 +40.396
87.623mph
48 1:37.723
90.917mph
Dunlop  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
BMW Z3M (#3115) GT3 4 +0.587
91.717mph
7 +1:22.506
86.871mph
48 1:38.250
90.430mph
Dunlop  
Jon Marjanen
 
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#3100) GT3 9 +1.191
91.149mph
8 +1:22.912
86.864mph
48 1:38.158
90.514mph
Dunlop  
picnic
 Team Shark
BMW Z3M (#3115) GT3 21 +3.166
89.339mph
9 +1:36.792
86.619mph
48 1:38.846
89.884mph
Dunlop  
jan duijs
 Dutch Turtles
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#4100) GT3 13 +2.023
90.377mph
10 +1L
86.150mph
47 1:39.165
89.595mph
Dunlop  
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Nissan 350Z (#990001) GT3 20 +3.145
89.357mph
11 +3.440
86.089mph
47 1:38.667
90.047mph
Dunlop  
spanner
 
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#3100) GT3 22 +3.179
89.327mph
12 +8.466
86.000mph
47 1:39.190
89.573mph
Dunlop  
Ted
 Team Pseudo Racing
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#770052) GT3 18 +2.789
89.678mph
13 +8.977
85.991mph
47 1:38.547
90.157mph
Dunlop  
Linus27
 Peanuts Motorsport
Lotus Elise (#270146) GT3 12 +1.693
90.682mph
14 +23.643
85.732mph
47 1:38.798
89.928mph
Dunlop  
Prof
 Team Shark
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#830001) GT3 14 +2.077
90.328mph
15 +27.819
85.659mph
47 1:38.879
89.854mph
Dunlop  
evert blommert
 Dutch Turtles
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#3100) GT3 17 +2.461
89.976mph
16 (+4) +31.869
85.588mph
47 1:38.008
90.653mph
Dunlop  
H@L9000
 Team Pseudo Racing
BMW Z3M (#610052) GT3 8 +1.069
91.263mph
17 47 1:37.868
90.783mph
fuel
Dunlop  
Blunder
 Team Oldie Racing
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#770014) GT3 23 +3.242
89.270mph
18 +2L
84.451mph
46 1:39.903
88.933mph
Dunlop  
JPS
 
Lotus Elise (#3118) GT3 16 +2.430
90.005mph
19 +0.259
84.447mph
46 1:39.325
89.451mph
Dunlop  
Legzy
 Team Oldie Racing
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#770014) GT3 25 +3.705
88.857mph
20 +3.375
84.392mph
46 1:39.982
88.863mph
Dunlop  
psuedo
 Team Pseudo Racing
Dodge Viper Competition Coupé (#720052) GT3 15 +2.315
90.110mph
21 +10.152
84.275mph
46 1:39.215
89.550mph
Michelin  
Mcfids
 Team Pseudo Racing
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#770052) GT3 24 +3.429
89.103mph
22 +12.041
84.242mph
46 1:39.998
88.849mph
Dunlop  
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#4101) GT3 7 +0.832
91.486mph
23 +4L 44 1:38.537
90.166mph
fuel
Dunlop  
Mr.BMW
 Prodigy Racing
BMW Z3M (#3115) GT3 27 +4.368
88.272mph
24 +16L 32 1:39.879
88.955mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Carl Hart
 Racin24-7
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#4100) GT3 10 +1.285
91.061mph
25 +38L 10 1:38.507
90.194mph
unknown
Dunlop  
pribeiro
 Sonic Racing Team
Dodge Viper Competition Coupé (#4115) GT3 19 +3.090
89.407mph
26 +40L 8 1:39.464
89.326mph
unknown
Michelin  
API
 
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#3100) GT3 26 +4.132
88.479mph
27 +47L 1 2:56.114
50.449mph
unknown
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 265s

Busi is leading the pace lap and engages his limiter 13 seconds before reaching the start line. Whilst this is less time than ideal, it's well within acceptable limits, and indeed the pack behind him down to Michael Boylan in 12th has no problem forming up and engaging their limiters. The "20 second rule" is a rule of thumb - the polesitter is not expected to know exactly where 20 seconds before the start line is.

Jan Duijs in 13th is where things start to go wrong. He zooms up behind Michael and is unable to slow down in time to avoid him, instead ducking to the left and coming to a virtual standstill before engaging his limiter and then rejoining the queue.

Prof in 14th has left a generous gap and has no trouble slowing to join the snake, but grinds almost to a halt as the result of Jan's sudden slowing.

Psuedo, in 15th, engages his limiter before Prof has done so, and then also has to slow dramatically. Because JPS in 16th can see Psuedo's limiter on, he begins to close up, only to suddenly find the Viper almost stationary, and JPS then has to jam on his anchors, and gets touched from behind by Evert in 17th.

Evert then engages his limiter whilst almost stopped and Ted behind engages his before rather inevitably driving into the back of Evert's now stopped car at almost full limiter speed. PRibeiro engages his limiter in response to Ted and then has to go left to avoid him.

Dave Gymer almost gets stopped in time but lightly touches the back of Ted's car, whilst Pete Allnut dives right and Spanner left in avoidance, the latter engaging his limiter whilst grinding to a halt.

Martin, in 23rd sees the chaos ahead and slows right down; McFids and Legzy do likewise but API cannot see the danger until it's too late and runs into Legzy, for which he did a voluntary drive through. Finally, Mr BMW comes rushing up the back of the pack and has to swerve left rather dramatically to avoid everyone.

The principle cause was Jan's over-eager attempt to close up on the pack. Secondary to this were the drivers who engaged their limiters prematurely - namely Psuedo, Evert, and Spanner - sending the wrong message to drivers behind and exacerbating the concertina effect.

Drivers are reminded that because the pit limiter light is visible in GTR2, they should not attempt to close right up on the car in front until they have visual confirmation that it has engaged its limiter, and should not engage their own until safely positioned in the "snake".


Server replay time: 378s

Evert's Vertigo is following the Elise of JPS into the final corner and runs into the back of him. It's not a passing attempt; neither car goes off and no position is gained, and the Elise did lock a wheel, suggesting that its braking was not 'normal'. This was, however, at the end of the first flying lap, at a notoriously tricky corner, and Evert had no reason to be very close to the Elise in this corner this early in the race when the Vertigo would not have been able to pass the faster Elise down the straight.

Based on the nature of the incident I'm therefore assessing a 2 place penalty rather than the normal 3 for a first lap rear ender.


Server replay time: 1794s

After recovering from an off, Evert is passed by JPS. Evert takes T10 much quicker than JPS, and looks to the inside into turn 11, but fails to either get alongside or back out in time, and there is contact, putting JPS off the track. Evert keeps the place, and JPS loses two as a result.

This was ill-judged rather than egregious, but because Evert gained and JPS lost through it I'm applying the full penalty.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR2
GT3
1:36.284
92.276mph
Busi
Qualifying
Gillet Vertigo StreiffAugust 10, 2008, 08:38:30 PM +0100
U8LE
GTR2
GT3
1:36.771
91.812mph
Busi
Race
Gillet Vertigo StreiffAugust 10, 2008, 08:38:30 PM +0100
U8LE
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« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2008, 11:19:44 PM +0100 »

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« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2008, 09:49:27 AM +0100 »

I've done a few laps in the vertigo to get my eye in, but as my missus was due yesterday to give birth to our 3rd child, sods law it will be before Sunday. Have a good race!!
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« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2008, 09:58:49 AM +0100 »

Advanced congratulations to you and missus McFids....see ya soon. Smiley
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« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2008, 09:59:26 AM +0100 »

Good luck with the impeding arrival, fingers crossed it's kind enough to wait for Monday Wink
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« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2008, 10:21:49 AM +0100 »

I have had a change of heart....and decided to use my free car change for the season.

Whilst I love driving the Verti....I am missing the Viper cc badly....and it is the only car from the available GT3 choices that hasn't been used yet this season, so I will be in the tank for the remaining races. Grin
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« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2008, 10:53:55 AM +0100 »

I've done a few laps in the vertigo to get my eye in, but as my missus was due yesterday to give birth to our 3rd child, sods law it will be before Sunday. Have a good race!!

All the best! Your 3rd! Sucker for punishment! then eh!  Grin We settled for 1 and a dog!  Grin
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« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2008, 01:02:10 PM +0100 »

I've done a few laps in the vertigo to get my eye in, but as my missus was due yesterday to give birth to our 3rd child, sods law it will be before Sunday. Have a good race!!
Good luck, hope all goes well & it's a Monday baby.
My Mrs is expecting our 1st in 4 weeks. With two already & a 3rd on the way, you offer me hope that I'll be able to keep all this racing up  balloon
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« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2008, 02:56:24 PM +0100 »

All the best! Your 3rd! Sucker for punishment! then eh!  Grin We settled for 1 and a dog!  Grin

And just to add to the imminent chaos, my others kids are only 3 years old and 1 year old Smiley We don't hang about!! 

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« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2008, 03:13:35 PM +0100 »

Wow, where do you find the time!  Cheesy oh and energy  Grin
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« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2008, 09:42:48 PM +0100 »

Hope all goes well McFids Cool.......anyone that goes for a third must be mad Shocked...good luck.

My intention was to keep the same car through the entire season but the heavily nuetered Vertigo is simply just boring to drive, if it wasn't for my sound engine mod I probably would have changed earlier.

Looks like it is going to be the 911 for me, possibly a mad choice, but it sure is interesting to drive, start off slow I am sure but will hope to get to know this little beast a bit better and try to increase my speed, will try and not get in anyones way while this happens. Wink
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« Reply #25 on: August 08, 2008, 10:14:45 PM +0100 »

I shall be joining in for this one as as i enjoy the GT3 class and the track.

Though after some brief practise i'm down to a 1.38.7 in the vertigo, which is really bizare after just checking the lap records. And i wasnt running particularly light. Cant beleive the last race here was a tri-class one; must have been mayhem!
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« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2008, 12:04:30 AM +0100 »

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Though after some brief practise i'm down to a 1.38.7 in the vertigo, which is really bizare after just checking the lap records. And i wasnt running particularly light.

Has to be kept in mind though that the vertigo has stepped down from GTC class and most other GT3 cars have had performance boosters to help match things out....so most GT3 records should be in danger this season.
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« Reply #27 on: August 09, 2008, 08:16:23 AM +0100 »

Oh well Roll Eyes, for one night i was right up there! Grin
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« Reply #28 on: August 09, 2008, 12:00:14 PM +0100 »

Looks like it is going to be the 911 for me, possibly a mad choice, but it sure is interesting to drive, start off slow I am sure but will hope to get to know this little beast a bit better and try to increase my speed, will try and not get in anyones way while this happens. Wink

Or should I go for the Lotus?
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« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2008, 12:30:42 PM +0100 »

Though after some brief practise i'm down to a 1.38.7 in the vertigo, which is really bizare after just checking the lap records. And i wasnt running particularly light.

I'm inside the record from last season too and I'm Captain Slow. Goodness knows how fast the little green folk will go.  Grin
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